RE: Dodge Challenger
Discussion
I lived in Nova Scotia in Canada when the original Challenger came out in 1968. The new car is very much in keeping with the style of the very first model in '68. We had a Plymouth Satellite 383 V8 saloon which the challenger was derived from. The sound of that V8 throbbing under the bonnet was something to behold.
I really hope the new car stays in production as I'm sure that there willbe huge demand for this rare car. Its much prettier than the new Mustang.
I really hope the new car stays in production as I'm sure that there willbe huge demand for this rare car. Its much prettier than the new Mustang.
Marquis_Rex said:
LuS1fer said:
I've driven the Charger V6 and it feels and drives like an old Merc which is what's underneath so no surprise there. £50k is a lot of money for this car. My advice is buy a Mustang or wait for the Camaro which will have 422hp and a 6.2 litre engine to play with and it will handle too.
I dont know what platform the Camaro will have so I cant comment, but there is a world of difference between the V6 Charger on the LX platform and the top of the line Hemi Challenger on the LX platform.I had a Mustang V6 as a long term rental car (a few months) it was fun and pleasant and reasonably good on fuel, but I didnt like the way it would jiggle its behind- due to the poor location of the back axle- its on coil springs- my 1970 challenger doesnt do this- because the leaf springs offer better location. I actually prefered the way the new charger handled.
I'm not one to rubbish US solid rear axles - as many do on these boards, but I actually think that using an old Mercedes platform with there excellent multi-link rear is an advantage.
I don't think you can compare the excellent forth coming new challenger to the Mustang.
Edmunds-insideline video obviously agree with me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqT1rD1RUk
who praise the SRT8 despite its greater weight and size.
The Camaro is a new floorpan with IRS developed by GM Australia so is going to be more like a better Monaro than anything else in terms of handling.
oagent said:
How come no one has asked how fast it goes round the Ring yet?
Like anyone cares, its mad and I love it
Because you wouldn't buy one for it's handling and lap times. Like anyone cares, its mad and I love it
This is pure American muscle... all straight line speed, V8 rumble and posing value and should only be made in orange or lime green. I want one so much my balls are aching. BUG4LIFE said:
You would be hard pushed to get one over here for £25k. Check this out http://www.newport-imports.com/newveh.asp?make=DOD...
Rubbish, I've done the maths, you could do it for £27k easily, inc SVA and registration.
screw you brown!!
Twin Turbo said:
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Well done Dodge/GM for having the guts to make such a beast.
TW>>>
Crikey, that's generous of GM to help develop it. I wonder if Chrysler helped out with the CamaroWell done Dodge/GM for having the guts to make such a beast.
TW>>>
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NATM5 said:
Interesting Article, especially as i have been trying to get one.
The part i like is the price quoted by specialist importers. More like specialist rip off merchants. I think £ 50,000 is a tad rich , although the 2 importers i asked for prices both quoted me £ 45,000.
Now call me old fashioned but i dont like being ripped off.
If i may.
Cost of Dodge Challenger SRT8 in orange.......$ 41,000 ( you may get a local discount as its being exported.
Shipping to UK $ 2000.00
Total cost $ 42000 which = £ 22,000.00
IMPORT TAX @ 10 % = £ 2,200.00
VAT @ 17.5 % = £ 4,235.00
TOTAL = £ 28,435.00
Now let me see, you have your car at the dock what else do u need.........?
registration and SVA test.
SVA test is £240.00.......and there may be the odd modification here and there and lets be generous and add £ 1000.00
so the total cost comes to £ 29,675.00
Lets be generous again , ill call it a round £ 30,000.
My question is this.................where is the other £15-20,000 gone..............?
Straight in to the robbing specialists importers pocket.
So there you have it, if you want one, bring it over yourself and in fact go there and fetch yourself, and have yourself a holiday there too.
Regards
N.
I'm not sure if it's the same for american imports but you need a model report now for registering a japanese car if it's after 2001 i think, ten years old or more and it's just an mot. The model report if you need one if there isn't one available can cost a small fortune as it needs to pass emissions and sound tests which if it fails you have to pay the full wack again rather than a smaller retest fee. Found this out when bringing over a ltd edition 2004impreza which had no model report. Still though the dealers are still going to want to make a fair bitThe part i like is the price quoted by specialist importers. More like specialist rip off merchants. I think £ 50,000 is a tad rich , although the 2 importers i asked for prices both quoted me £ 45,000.
Now call me old fashioned but i dont like being ripped off.
If i may.
Cost of Dodge Challenger SRT8 in orange.......$ 41,000 ( you may get a local discount as its being exported.
Shipping to UK $ 2000.00
Total cost $ 42000 which = £ 22,000.00
IMPORT TAX @ 10 % = £ 2,200.00
VAT @ 17.5 % = £ 4,235.00
TOTAL = £ 28,435.00
Now let me see, you have your car at the dock what else do u need.........?
registration and SVA test.
SVA test is £240.00.......and there may be the odd modification here and there and lets be generous and add £ 1000.00
so the total cost comes to £ 29,675.00
Lets be generous again , ill call it a round £ 30,000.
My question is this.................where is the other £15-20,000 gone..............?
Straight in to the robbing specialists importers pocket.
So there you have it, if you want one, bring it over yourself and in fact go there and fetch yourself, and have yourself a holiday there too.
Regards
N.
That is stunning. I used to think the new Mustang was the most successful retro-muscle car but this makes it look a tiny bit ugly.
I've long held an idea for a way of getting round current CO2-spouting botherers regarding muscle cars.
Diesel.
Seriously, a diesel engine can be tuned to provide the torque a muscle car needs whilst using a lot less fuel and producing fewer emissions. Throw a couple of turbochargers into the mix and you've got the acceleration to match.
I'm just thinking of the Jaguar 2.7-litre twin-turbo diesel V6, emissions below 225g/km and yet somehow it manages to keep up with the petrol units bar the supercharged V8, and return 45mpg. Apply the same thinking to cars like this (and add some big-bore exhausts for a big bassy rumbling growl) and problem's solved.
And you could run it on chip fat, which strikes me as a very muscle-car-driver-Confederate-anti-hero thing to do, for some reason. Brew it in your own back yard in a tank alongside the Moonshine
I've long held an idea for a way of getting round current CO2-spouting botherers regarding muscle cars.
Diesel.
Seriously, a diesel engine can be tuned to provide the torque a muscle car needs whilst using a lot less fuel and producing fewer emissions. Throw a couple of turbochargers into the mix and you've got the acceleration to match.
I'm just thinking of the Jaguar 2.7-litre twin-turbo diesel V6, emissions below 225g/km and yet somehow it manages to keep up with the petrol units bar the supercharged V8, and return 45mpg. Apply the same thinking to cars like this (and add some big-bore exhausts for a big bassy rumbling growl) and problem's solved.
And you could run it on chip fat, which strikes me as a very muscle-car-driver-Confederate-anti-hero thing to do, for some reason. Brew it in your own back yard in a tank alongside the Moonshine
Twincam16 said:
That is stunning. I used to think the new Mustang was the most successful retro-muscle car but this makes it look a tiny bit ugly.
I've long held an idea for a way of getting round current CO2-spouting botherers regarding muscle cars.
Diesel.
Seriously, a diesel engine can be tuned to provide the torque a muscle car needs whilst using a lot less fuel and producing fewer emissions. Throw a couple of turbochargers into the mix and you've got the acceleration to match.
I'm just thinking of the Jaguar 2.7-litre twin-turbo diesel V6, emissions below 225g/km and yet somehow it manages to keep up with the petrol units bar the supercharged V8, and return 45mpg. Apply the same thinking to cars like this (and add some big-bore exhausts for a big bassy rumbling growl) and problem's solved.
And you could run it on chip fat, which strikes me as a very muscle-car-driver-Confederate-anti-hero thing to do, for some reason. Brew it in your own back yard in a tank alongside the Moonshine
There are so many heresies in this post that I fear we are going to have to burn you alive at the stake.I've long held an idea for a way of getting round current CO2-spouting botherers regarding muscle cars.
Diesel.
Seriously, a diesel engine can be tuned to provide the torque a muscle car needs whilst using a lot less fuel and producing fewer emissions. Throw a couple of turbochargers into the mix and you've got the acceleration to match.
I'm just thinking of the Jaguar 2.7-litre twin-turbo diesel V6, emissions below 225g/km and yet somehow it manages to keep up with the petrol units bar the supercharged V8, and return 45mpg. Apply the same thinking to cars like this (and add some big-bore exhausts for a big bassy rumbling growl) and problem's solved.
And you could run it on chip fat, which strikes me as a very muscle-car-driver-Confederate-anti-hero thing to do, for some reason. Brew it in your own back yard in a tank alongside the Moonshine
None of these imports are C02 rated so you've already got round the C02 by paying £185 a year road tax.
Diesel? Diesel! We'd rather run 'em on moonshine before we let the clattering sound of a sh*t engine loose round these here parts. The only Smokies we need yo avoid are black and white.
woof said:
I like my yanks cars - but I've seen it in the flesh
It's just dreadful - it's nothing like the original - it's bulky and looks more like the Chrysler 300c
It was such a disappointment for me
I have to agree. In my eyes Chrysler didn't re-invent the Challenger...they just rebuilt it. It's absolutely hideous to be honest, entirely bulky and bloated. It doesn't look muscular to me, looks like a bloated piece of American crap trying to capitalize on a fad. I have similar feelings about the new Camaro. Ford got the new Mustang right. Updated styling for the 21st century INSPIRED by our favorites from the past, not carbon copies. Actually one of my favorite "muscle" cars is the new Holden/Vauxhall Monaro (called a Pontiac GTO here in the States). It's a sad day when our mates down under best all the design power Detroit can muster. It's just dreadful - it's nothing like the original - it's bulky and looks more like the Chrysler 300c
It was such a disappointment for me
LuS1fer said:
Twincam16 said:
That is stunning. I used to think the new Mustang was the most successful retro-muscle car but this makes it look a tiny bit ugly.
I've long held an idea for a way of getting round current CO2-spouting botherers regarding muscle cars.
Diesel.
Seriously, a diesel engine can be tuned to provide the torque a muscle car needs whilst using a lot less fuel and producing fewer emissions. Throw a couple of turbochargers into the mix and you've got the acceleration to match.
I'm just thinking of the Jaguar 2.7-litre twin-turbo diesel V6, emissions below 225g/km and yet somehow it manages to keep up with the petrol units bar the supercharged V8, and return 45mpg. Apply the same thinking to cars like this (and add some big-bore exhausts for a big bassy rumbling growl) and problem's solved.
And you could run it on chip fat, which strikes me as a very muscle-car-driver-Confederate-anti-hero thing to do, for some reason. Brew it in your own back yard in a tank alongside the Moonshine
There are so many heresies in this post that I fear we are going to have to burn you alive at the stake.I've long held an idea for a way of getting round current CO2-spouting botherers regarding muscle cars.
Diesel.
Seriously, a diesel engine can be tuned to provide the torque a muscle car needs whilst using a lot less fuel and producing fewer emissions. Throw a couple of turbochargers into the mix and you've got the acceleration to match.
I'm just thinking of the Jaguar 2.7-litre twin-turbo diesel V6, emissions below 225g/km and yet somehow it manages to keep up with the petrol units bar the supercharged V8, and return 45mpg. Apply the same thinking to cars like this (and add some big-bore exhausts for a big bassy rumbling growl) and problem's solved.
And you could run it on chip fat, which strikes me as a very muscle-car-driver-Confederate-anti-hero thing to do, for some reason. Brew it in your own back yard in a tank alongside the Moonshine
None of these imports are C02 rated so you've already got round the C02 by paying £185 a year road tax.
Diesel? Diesel! We'd rather run 'em on moonshine before we let the clattering sound of a sh*t engine loose round these here parts. The only Smokies we need yo avoid are black and white.
Buy the origonal and it is f.all tax!
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