Rolex BLNR "Batman" - buy at premium?

Rolex BLNR "Batman" - buy at premium?

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Nomal

258 posts

112 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Nomal said:
Friend of mine picked a a SS GMT in late November last year from a midlands AD, he then put his name down for a BLNR, just got the call it has arrived.


He has been told though that they will photo copy the warranty card and withhold it for 12 months.

This does not worry him as he has no intention of moving it on.
It's always a friend isn't it?

And should this AD close down, go out of business, burn down, mislay those guarantee papers? Strange that I bought two sports models in the last 6 months and neither had this applied to them hehe
Yes it is a friend, why does that make a difference!! He is collecting next week and will put his name down for a CD, so lets see what the outcome is.This is the practice at this AD for pieces that are high in demand he tells me.

Its funny because i collected my SD43 this week that I placed after I ordered a CD, still have not received the Daytona as of yet!!

detee

628 posts

150 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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I got a steel White Daytona last June and they are holding the card until its been a year. That is Fraser Hart in York.

Nomal

258 posts

112 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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detee said:
I got a steel White Daytona last June and they are holding the card until its been a year. That is Fraser Hart in York.
Just to reiterate the AD that I have just collected my SD43 from has not withheld the papers.

detee

628 posts

150 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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There does not seem to be ant rhyme or reason as to when they do or don't. You would think it would be a blanket policy wouldn't you. I only posted as I had a real world experience, on my BLNR I kept the papers.

Zoon

6,715 posts

122 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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detee said:
I got a steel White Daytona last June and they are holding the card until its been a year. That is Fraser Hart in York.
I'd be holding part of the money for the said card until the year has elapsed.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Zoon said:
detee said:
I got a steel White Daytona last June and they are holding the card until its been a year. That is Fraser Hart in York.
I'd be holding part of the money for the said card until the year has elapsed.
Bloody too right.

Johnnybee

2,288 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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I've finally got my hands on one after being on my local AD's list for around 10 months. A quick phone pic.


FWIW

3,069 posts

98 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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In the spirit of the thread...did you pay list? 6500?

Johnnybee

2,288 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Yes, although I came very close a couple of times to giving in and buying pre-owned at above.

trowelhead

Original Poster:

1,867 posts

122 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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I'm selling my BLNR soon, box and papers, 2016 model, good condition, pm me if anyone is interested before it goes on ebay / chrono 24


ike2112

1 posts

72 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
It's always a friend isn't it?

And should this AD close down, go out of business, burn down, mislay those guarantee papers? Strange that I bought two sports models in the last 6 months and neither had this applied to them hehe
The problem is that Rolex allow their ADs to make their own rules.

There are 3 Rolex ADs within reasonable distance (50 miles) of me. Each run their waiting list in a different way. One of them it's strictly first-come, first served and you have a specific position on the list (I was #21 when I was added - they only get 3 per year so in theory it's a 7yr wait). They also hold your warranty for 6 months - you don't agree, fine, don't buy it. Is it legal? I'm not convinced it is, but then the answer is, don't buy it then - which doesn't help if you do actually want the watch.
At the other AD that is over the road from them, they don't tell you where you are on the list and they give repeat customers preferential treatment, but they get 4 per year and told me I'd probably only realistically need to wait a year; they call round and you need to say Yes and pay up within 24hr or they call the next person, so they rack through their list quickly.
The other AD is kind of a mix between the two - they tell you where you are on the list but they more sneakily don't stick to it and they bump people up and down and will even sell a watch if you time a visit right (someone I know walked in and they'd been calling people on the Hulk waiting list, the guy asked for it was able to pay there and then so they just gave it to him instead).

Ultimately the problem is that, in UK at least, they don't permit deposits. If you had to pay half up front in order to join a waiting list, you wouldn't have people joining multiple waiting lists and you wouldn't have all the time-wasters, and you'd have much less speculators also. Demand would drop to being much more in line with supply, resale values would be more sensible, and all would be better in the world.
But it would potentially hurt Rolex - they like the over-the-top demand. They like that resale value is high, because then it makes people more inclined to buy (what else can you be unsure about, but buy and wear for a year and if you decide you don't like, sell it and make a profit?).

Master Bean said:
A steel coke or pepsi is never gonna happen. Rolex just love to tease us.
They weren't teasing... they just genuinely found it hugely difficult to get 2 colours together! Was surprised they didn't go Coke bezel first, since they had the ability to do that already, but now they've done both Pepsi and a new Root Beer, all bets are off.

Wills2

22,907 posts

176 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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don logan said:
Porsche911R said:
as they seem harder to get WF prices are now 8.9k for a new one !!!

prices only seem to be going up still
In early December I jokingly asked a friend which month in 2018 he thought they might hit £9k.
WF now has an 2018 unworn one for £9690, with that rate of inflation you'd think we were back in the 70s.





detee

628 posts

150 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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So what could I expect for one of the first BLNR's just back from a Rolex service so it is like brand new. Plus the service is warrantied.

rog007

5,761 posts

225 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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detee said:
So what could I expect for one of the first BLNR's just back from a Rolex service so it is like brand new. Plus the service is warrantied.
In competition with the other 256 examples (some have been modified, so not all 256 are standard), currently being advertised on Chrono24, who knows!

Best way to find out what it’s worth is to sell it on one of the popular auction sites and see what it eventually goes for.

Do let us know.

detee

628 posts

150 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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I have so far been offered £6,500 for a trade bid. I paid £5950, plus just under £500 for a service so not exactly getting rich there!

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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detee said:
I have so far been offered £6,500 for a trade bid. I paid £5950, plus just under £500 for a service so not exactly getting rich there!
I think that’s the thing though...

I treat my watches as a replacement for my old air cooled Porsche hobby (seeing as I’m priced out of the market these days!). It helps that a mate owns a Rolex grey market dealership.

I almost did a deal on a BLNR this weekend, I was happy at £6750 as my mate could sell it at £7750 and we’d make £500 each after I’d worn it for six months or so. If prices took a dive and I didn’t make anything I’ve owned a nice watch for a while.

I don’t expect to make a fortune but if all bills are covered by some canny buying and I scrape the odd profit then I’m quite happy enough and it’s a harmless hobby.

I just wish it was as easy letting go of them!

detee

628 posts

150 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
detee said:
I have so far been offered £6,500 for a trade bid. I paid £5950, plus just under £500 for a service so not exactly getting rich there!
I think that’s the thing though...

I treat my watches as a replacement for my old air cooled Porsche hobby (seeing as I’m priced out of the market these days!). It helps that a mate owns a Rolex grey market dealership.

I almost did a deal on a BLNR this weekend, I was happy at £6750 as my mate could sell it at £7750 and we’d make £500 each after I’d worn it for six months or so. If prices took a dive and I didn’t make anything I’ve owned a nice watch for a while.

I don’t expect to make a fortune but if all bills are covered by some canny buying and I scrape the odd profit then I’m quite happy enough and it’s a harmless hobby.

I just wish it was as easy letting go of them!
I agree! The letting go eludes me as well!

R5OHH

70 posts

126 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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detee said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
detee said:
I have so far been offered £6,500 for a trade bid. I paid £5950, plus just under £500 for a service so not exactly getting rich there!
I think that’s the thing though...

I treat my watches as a replacement for my old air cooled Porsche hobby (seeing as I’m priced out of the market these days!). It helps that a mate owns a Rolex grey market dealership.

I almost did a deal on a BLNR this weekend, I was happy at £6750 as my mate could sell it at £7750 and we’d make £500 each after I’d worn it for six months or so. If prices took a dive and I didn’t make anything I’ve owned a nice watch for a while.

I don’t expect to make a fortune but if all bills are covered by some canny buying and I scrape the odd profit then I’m quite happy enough and it’s a harmless hobby.

I just wish it was as easy letting go of them!
I agree! The letting go eludes me as well!
On the look out for a sensible priced BLNR, ideally in London or not too far! Cash waiting.

detee

628 posts

150 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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How do you define sensible in this market. I am
Away until Monday but may
Be selling mine, it has just had a Rolex service so still under warranty and not been worn since. It was one of the early ones.

don logan

3,523 posts

223 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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detee said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
detee said:
I have so far been offered £6,500 for a trade bid. I paid £5950, plus just under £500 for a service so not exactly getting rich there!
I think that’s the thing though...

I treat my watches as a replacement for my old air cooled Porsche hobby (seeing as I’m priced out of the market these days!). It helps that a mate owns a Rolex grey market dealership.

I almost did a deal on a BLNR this weekend, I was happy at £6750 as my mate could sell it at £7750 and we’d make £500 each after I’d worn it for six months or so. If prices took a dive and I didn’t make anything I’ve owned a nice watch for a while.

I don’t expect to make a fortune but if all bills are covered by some canny buying and I scrape the odd profit then I’m quite happy enough and it’s a harmless hobby.

I just wish it was as easy letting go of them!
I agree! The letting go eludes me as well!
Me too, I’ve decided to sell 2 of mine, I’ve definitely decided with these 2, I made my mind up months ago!

Must do something about it though!

The other thing is that because it’s so hard to get steel Rolexed at list it’s made me clam up and not consider letting anything steel and Rolex go!