Entry Level Rolex
Discussion
bobbybee said:
almost the same functionality and in budget
https://www.hackettwatches.co.uk/hw/items/JWEBAJCD...
Then again I'm biased as used to have one, also had a Submariner-Date at the time, the GMT was on my radar but didn't want 2 black dialled watches in the collection
Yes, very nice. Always liked these, but more drawn to the black dial version. https://www.hackettwatches.co.uk/hw/items/JWEBAJCD...
Then again I'm biased as used to have one, also had a Submariner-Date at the time, the GMT was on my radar but didn't want 2 black dialled watches in the collection
AshBurrows said:
Yeah fair enough. I'm sometimes utterly amazed by your watch knowledge as well as slightly irritated how slightly off mine is haha.
What do serious collectors think of quartz? Are any of them still particularly lusted after? I always wondered why Rolex etc still bother.
Quartz just doesn't interest me. The fascination comes with the Auto movements for me. The engineering. There are very few luxury quartz watches that seem good value to me. What do serious collectors think of quartz? Are any of them still particularly lusted after? I always wondered why Rolex etc still bother.
GrandAndrew said:
Ha, ideally I wouldn't have a ladies watch, no, but I do have quite small wrists so if a deal could be had....
I was just using Watch Finder as a platform to check what was in range, where would you suggest looking?
10 years ago 36mm would have been considered to be a man's watch and is still quite ok for men or perhaps being Pistonheads there are lots of well built women married to their equally powerfully built company director husbands I was just using Watch Finder as a platform to check what was in range, where would you suggest looking?
cbmotorsport said:
They're about 20% more expensive than most other places.
It's all relative though. I've always had an extremely competitive trade in price from them (on maybe ten or so trades and outright sales), so when it comes to calculating the bit that matters, which is the cost to change, the deal works out the same as dealing with other dealers who charge less on the sale, but give you less on the trade in.Horses for courses. It pays to shop around.
ou sont les biscuits said:
It's all relative though. I've always had an extremely competitive trade in price from them (on maybe ten or so trades and outright sales), so when it comes to calculating the bit that matters, which is the cost to change, the deal works out the same as dealing with other dealers who charge less on the sale, but give you less on the trade in.
Horses for courses. It pays to shop around.
Sure, probably not a bad bet on a trade in, but the OP was after a straight buy. Horses for courses. It pays to shop around.
I would have a read online about the difference between quartz, self-winding and mechanical watches. There are lots of good reference sites and blogs out there.
A rolex is expensive but good quality, holds it's value well and if maintained will last a lifetime. Service costs vary but with the newest models, 10 year services are recommended and will set you back the best part of £500 on a basic model with Rolex direct, less than half of that if you went elsewhere.
If you would like the entry level watch, it is an Oyster Perpetual in steel and fits your budget and is available in a number of different case sizes and dial options. Costs go up through the range you add functions, date, day/date, chronograph etc and precious metals.
https://www.rolex.com/watches/oyster-perpetual.htm...
A rolex is expensive but good quality, holds it's value well and if maintained will last a lifetime. Service costs vary but with the newest models, 10 year services are recommended and will set you back the best part of £500 on a basic model with Rolex direct, less than half of that if you went elsewhere.
If you would like the entry level watch, it is an Oyster Perpetual in steel and fits your budget and is available in a number of different case sizes and dial options. Costs go up through the range you add functions, date, day/date, chronograph etc and precious metals.
https://www.rolex.com/watches/oyster-perpetual.htm...
cbmotorsport said:
ou sont les biscuits said:
It's all relative though. I've always had an extremely competitive trade in price from them (on maybe ten or so trades and outright sales), so when it comes to calculating the bit that matters, which is the cost to change, the deal works out the same as dealing with other dealers who charge less on the sale, but give you less on the trade in.
Horses for courses. It pays to shop around.
Sure, probably not a bad bet on a trade in, but the OP was after a straight buy. Horses for courses. It pays to shop around.
Right, you are all filling me in nicely here.
With regards to the budget I could spend more but I've set this as a limit in my mind. It's easy to keep putting it up and up and for me at least I'm not sure I'd get any more pleasure from the ownership experience.
Being an 80's child I like the contrast between the gold and silver on the bracelet although I do also like brown leather. I'm happy to go with the servicing as per schedule but if there was somewhere local to me with a good reputation I'd probably use them over Rolex (oh the hypocrisy!).
Already I can see how people get into their watches, it's a bit like shopping for your next hobby car.
I have a habit of not selling anything after I've purchased it and I can't see that changing with watches. I am, however, more than capable of losing it.
With regards to the budget I could spend more but I've set this as a limit in my mind. It's easy to keep putting it up and up and for me at least I'm not sure I'd get any more pleasure from the ownership experience.
Being an 80's child I like the contrast between the gold and silver on the bracelet although I do also like brown leather. I'm happy to go with the servicing as per schedule but if there was somewhere local to me with a good reputation I'd probably use them over Rolex (oh the hypocrisy!).
Already I can see how people get into their watches, it's a bit like shopping for your next hobby car.
I have a habit of not selling anything after I've purchased it and I can't see that changing with watches. I am, however, more than capable of losing it.
AshBurrows said:
Yeah fair enough. I'm sometimes utterly amazed by your watch knowledge as well as slightly irritated how slightly off mine is haha.
What do serious collectors think of quartz? Are any of them still particularly lusted after? I always wondered why Rolex etc still bother.
Well, I've been collecting for 30 odd years now, you pick a few things up along the way, also you're never too old to learn something new.What do serious collectors think of quartz? Are any of them still particularly lusted after? I always wondered why Rolex etc still bother.
Quartz has its place, no fuss, accurate, some inexpensive, I'm wearing a TH Aquaracer quartz right now, ideal cheap grab 'n' go watch.
Rolex ceased quartz movement production in 2001, all their watches now are COSC+ rated automatics, first company to have an exclusively auto only line up. Even their Cellini line went auto, from hand wound a few years back
cbmotorsport said:
Quartz just doesn't interest me. The fascination comes with the Auto movements for me. The engineering. There are very few luxury quartz watches that seem good value to me.
Luxury and good value, now there's an oxymoron. If you're buying luxury anything and are expecting good value, you're playing in the wrong marketGrandAndrew said:
Right, you are all filling me in nicely here.
With regards to the budget I could spend more but I've set this as a limit in my mind. It's easy to keep putting it up and up and for me at least I'm not sure I'd get any more pleasure from the ownership experience.
Being an 80's child I like the contrast between the gold and silver on the bracelet although I do also like brown leather. I'm happy to go with the servicing as per schedule but if there was somewhere local to me with a good reputation I'd probably use them over Rolex (oh the hypocrisy!).
Already I can see how people get into their watches, it's a bit like shopping for your next hobby car.
I have a habit of not selling anything after I've purchased it and I can't see that changing with watches. I am, however, more than capable of losing it.
If going local to save a few quid, are you sure you want to buy in to the Rolex walled garden? Only their accredited watch repairers can get parts if needed, if serviced by RSC you also get a two year warranty for parts and work carried out. Sometimes the little extra bring more piece of mind, of course it's up to you.With regards to the budget I could spend more but I've set this as a limit in my mind. It's easy to keep putting it up and up and for me at least I'm not sure I'd get any more pleasure from the ownership experience.
Being an 80's child I like the contrast between the gold and silver on the bracelet although I do also like brown leather. I'm happy to go with the servicing as per schedule but if there was somewhere local to me with a good reputation I'd probably use them over Rolex (oh the hypocrisy!).
Already I can see how people get into their watches, it's a bit like shopping for your next hobby car.
I have a habit of not selling anything after I've purchased it and I can't see that changing with watches. I am, however, more than capable of losing it.
7184c said:
I would have a read online about the difference between quartz, self-winding and mechanical watches. There are lots of good reference sites and blogs out there.
A rolex is expensive but good quality, holds it's value well and if maintained will last a lifetime. Service costs vary but with the newest models, [B]10 year services are recommended[\B] and will set you back the best part of £500 on a basic model with Rolex direct, less than half of that[B] if you went elsewhere. [\B]
If you would like the entry level watch, it is an Oyster Perpetual in steel and fits your budget and is available in a number of different case sizes and dial options. Costs go up through the range you add functions, date, day/date, chronograph etc and precious metals.
https://www.rolex.com/watches/oyster-perpetual.htm...
That's not correct. Rolex carry a 5 year warranty from new, servicing carrys a 2 year warranty for any work done inc. parts.A rolex is expensive but good quality, holds it's value well and if maintained will last a lifetime. Service costs vary but with the newest models, [B]10 year services are recommended[\B] and will set you back the best part of £500 on a basic model with Rolex direct, less than half of that[B] if you went elsewhere. [\B]
If you would like the entry level watch, it is an Oyster Perpetual in steel and fits your budget and is available in a number of different case sizes and dial options. Costs go up through the range you add functions, date, day/date, chronograph etc and precious metals.
https://www.rolex.com/watches/oyster-perpetual.htm...
The 10 year service interval is not recommended, it was an observation on an internal Rolex document that noted, on average customers service their watch approximately every 10 years.
The only information you get in the manual with a Rolex is that your watch needs to be returned to Rolex for servicing, periodically.
Sorry pedant coming out here:
A self-winding or automatic watch is a mechanical watch.
You have quartz, tuning fork, radio signal, GPS signal watches that use those methods for time keeping are usually battery or solar powered.
Watches that time keep with cogs and gears mechanically are either hand wound or automatic.
Then to add some more to the mix you have kinetic watches that use a hybrid of both modern and old technologies.
Edited by bobbybee on Thursday 13th April 19:36
Personally (only my opinion) - go for a Rolex GMT II steel & gold. Nice watch, works well, and as some have said this style of watch can be dressed up or down. The Yachtmaster is also great but I'd tend to go for the GMT for a first watch.
They tend to hold their value.
OP, you mentioned you tend to lose things (earlier up in the thread)..... whatever you buy make sure you have it covered under your home insurance policy.
They tend to hold their value.
OP, you mentioned you tend to lose things (earlier up in the thread)..... whatever you buy make sure you have it covered under your home insurance policy.
bobbybee said:
That's not correct. Rolex carry a 5 year warranty from new, servicing carrys a 2 year warranty for any work done inc. parts.
The 10 year service interval is not recommended, it was an observation on an internal Rolex document that noted, on average customers service their watch approximately every 10 years.
The only information you get in the manual with a Rolex is that your watch needs to be returned to Rolex for servicing, periodically.
Sorry pedant coming out here:
A self-winding or automatic watch is a mechanical watch.
You have quartz, tuning fork, radio signal, GPS signal watches that use those methods for time keeping are usually battery or solar powered.
Watches that time keep with cogs and gears mechanically are either hand wound or automatic.
Then to add some more to the mix you have kinetic watches that use a hybrid of both modern and old technologies.
Kinetic is what Seiko named their technology for charging a capacitor with a rotor to power a quartz movement, so the word Kinetic should be reserved for those particular Seiko watches containing those movements.The 10 year service interval is not recommended, it was an observation on an internal Rolex document that noted, on average customers service their watch approximately every 10 years.
The only information you get in the manual with a Rolex is that your watch needs to be returned to Rolex for servicing, periodically.
Sorry pedant coming out here:
A self-winding or automatic watch is a mechanical watch.
You have quartz, tuning fork, radio signal, GPS signal watches that use those methods for time keeping are usually battery or solar powered.
Watches that time keep with cogs and gears mechanically are either hand wound or automatic.
Then to add some more to the mix you have kinetic watches that use a hybrid of both modern and old technologies.
Edited by bobbybee on Thursday 13th April 19:36
You also have the battery powered mechanical movements, which still have a balance wheel and are fully mechanical, but instead of being powered by a coiled spring they use a battery. I have a Hamilton and a Timex with movements like that. The OP isn't likely to come across such obsolete tech in his search though
There's also Seiko Springdrive. Don't ask me how that works though
andy tims said:
OP
You want to blow £4k on a Rolex, but know nothing about watches.
Suggest you do plenty of research, go & try a few on and have a good think before spending the money.
There can be something alluring in a name. We can all try to pretend we are above it You want to blow £4k on a Rolex, but know nothing about watches.
Suggest you do plenty of research, go & try a few on and have a good think before spending the money.
I was considering a soft top Boxter S or or a Z3 3.0 as a reasonably priced fun weekend car. I have to admit there was something more alluring about the Porsche because of the name. It didn't draw me in ultimately because I ended up with a TR7 
That analogy isn't far from my choice in watches too.bobbybee said:
GCH said:
Not using watchfinder for a start.
AgreedWhat made your experience with them a negative one?
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