Submariner going - it was lust, not love
Discussion
El stovey said:
Isn’t it more about being brand obsessed full stop and also constantly wanting stuff.
Yes, but I've always admitted to being shallow.No, hang on... BMWs are (or were) great cars. Rolex are great watches. Why change brand if one absolutely works for you over a long period of time?
I've also been married 30 years.
Loyal. I think that's a better word to sum up what could be called obsessive.
As for constantly wanting stuff, that's not wearing the same watch for 15 years and then making an error of judgement. That's just making an error of judgement before settling down with another (hopefully) great watch for another 15 years.
Plenty here ARE both obsessive and wanting more stuff - those with big collections of watches. That's not my intention.
desolate said:
What is you like about "Rolex"?
Is it the aspirational nature of the brand? - BMW is quite an aspirational car brand as well I suppose.
I'm not sure, but prior to buying my DJ in 2002 I'd bought watches which wore out. Raymond Weil, Maurice Lecroix, Ebel, all had issues as I recall. Then my wife traded her Ebel for a pre-owned DJ26 and the shop in Warwick had the DJ36 also, which I liked and so bought on the spot. For me at that point Rolex was the pinnacle of watch brands, and still is. I have looked at other brands but few do anything for me aesthetically. That may also be because I have an image of a TT DJ imprinted in my mind and so that's what I expect to see on my wrist, having seen one there for 15 years.Is it the aspirational nature of the brand? - BMW is quite an aspirational car brand as well I suppose.
No doubt some of these reasons applied: https://www.quora.com/Why-would-anyone-buy-a-Rolex...
Whatever it was that appealed in 2002, and my mind is understandably misty, now my "go to" watch brand is Rolex without much of a thought.
If I'd been happy with Mars bars for 15 years then I'd go and buy another Mars bar. Why change? (NB. Tried a Hershey bar once in Florida - spat it out!). But what I have now done is to assume all Mars chocolate is equal and made the mistake of buying a Milky Way, thinking it too would satisfy.
BMW lost their way when Chris Bangle took over design. I was given a 316 as a company car in 1986 and once again liked what it did so followed the brand, latterly hanging on to my E46 for nine years but when it had to go there was no suitable model to take its place. I briefly tried Merc, Audi, and now Porsche. So I have changed car brand (we still have a BMW SAV which does a different job.)
If Rolex suddenly started making watches which looked like PPs or APs I guess I'd have to jump ship and that may also cause a hiccup, leaving me floundering around amongst the other brands trying to find a replacement, as with the car. So far, apart from size and dials, the DJ has remained pretty much intact as an iconic design.
Rather than aspiring to a Rolex, and I think I'm past that stage, I'd say I've plateaued. There may be better watches, more expensive watches, cheaper watches which are as well made, but none hold my attention or interest. I'm sure there are others who feel precisely the same about their favourite brand. How a brand gains that title could be for a myriad of personal reasons.
DJMC said:
Rather than aspiring to a Rolex, and I think I'm past that stage, I'd say I've plateaued. There may be better watches, more expensive watches, cheaper watches which are as well made, but none hold my attention or interest. I'm sure there are others who feel precisely the same about their favourite brand. How a brand gains that title could be for a myriad of personal reasons.
As I stated earlier - it's your decision and no one can argue with you buying what you fancy.There is no doubt that Rolex stands alone as a watch brand.
Thing is... the jubilee shows very little from scratches as it has no large flat surfaces like the oyster. I saw a 2 year old TT oyster at the AD, just come in as a p/ex, and the pcls looked awful. Far worse than my old jubilee after 15 years. Because of the curved links the light doesn't pick up so much of a scratch when reflected.
drainbrain said:
Lots of collectors end up wearing a sub almost exclusively, especially an ND Sub.
No-one really knows why.
I wouldn't have said I was a collector, but I kept buying half-decent but low-end watches (Seiko 7T32 Panda, Skagen titanium, birth-year gold Smiths, etc)No-one really knows why.
I then found myself in the fortunate position of being able to treat myself and managed (with help from DomH and a strong pound) to stretch the budget to a no-date Sub.
In the last two and a half years, its only ever been off my wrist for delving deep into engine bays. Short of a massive change in fortune on the job front or a decent lottery win, I can't see me ever buying anything better, so I really don't see that any of my old watches will ever be worn again.
So, for most people, I suspect a Sub is the end of a collection, rather than the beginning
Nigel_O said:
I wouldn't have said I was a collector, but I kept buying half-decent but low-end watches (Seiko 7T32 Panda, Skagen titanium, birth-year gold Smiths, etc)
I then found myself in the fortunate position of being able to treat myself and managed (with help from DomH and a strong pound) to stretch the budget to a no-date Sub.
In the last two and a half years, its only ever been off my wrist for delving deep into engine bays. Short of a massive change in fortune on the job front or a decent lottery win, I can't see me ever buying anything better, so I really don't see that any of my old watches will ever be worn again.
So, for most people, I suspect a Sub is the end of a collection, rather than the beginning
I've just spent a couple of months selling off a fairly extensive collection which included some quite expensive stuff.I then found myself in the fortunate position of being able to treat myself and managed (with help from DomH and a strong pound) to stretch the budget to a no-date Sub.
In the last two and a half years, its only ever been off my wrist for delving deep into engine bays. Short of a massive change in fortune on the job front or a decent lottery win, I can't see me ever buying anything better, so I really don't see that any of my old watches will ever be worn again.
So, for most people, I suspect a Sub is the end of a collection, rather than the beginning
Guess what I kept?
The main reason I dumped the rest was because I found myself only wearing the one watch so there didn't seem any point in keeping the rest in cases or the safe if they weren't going to get any wrist time.
drainbrain said:
Nigel_O said:
I wouldn't have said I was a collector, but I kept buying half-decent but low-end watches (Seiko 7T32 Panda, Skagen titanium, birth-year gold Smiths, etc)
I then found myself in the fortunate position of being able to treat myself and managed (with help from DomH and a strong pound) to stretch the budget to a no-date Sub.
In the last two and a half years, its only ever been off my wrist for delving deep into engine bays. Short of a massive change in fortune on the job front or a decent lottery win, I can't see me ever buying anything better, so I really don't see that any of my old watches will ever be worn again.
So, for most people, I suspect a Sub is the end of a collection, rather than the beginning
I've just spent a couple of months selling off a fairly extensive collection which included some quite expensive stuff.I then found myself in the fortunate position of being able to treat myself and managed (with help from DomH and a strong pound) to stretch the budget to a no-date Sub.
In the last two and a half years, its only ever been off my wrist for delving deep into engine bays. Short of a massive change in fortune on the job front or a decent lottery win, I can't see me ever buying anything better, so I really don't see that any of my old watches will ever be worn again.
So, for most people, I suspect a Sub is the end of a collection, rather than the beginning
Guess what I kept?
The main reason I dumped the rest was because I found myself only wearing the one watch so there didn't seem any point in keeping the rest in cases or the safe if they weren't going to get any wrist time.
Well I feel a BIT like that having bought my ND 4 line Sub despite having a couple of things that people might consider "superior", it's not because the Sub is less precious and therefore more wearable because I'm just as careful with it as the others, Just something about the pre ceramic ND Sub
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