Calling Rolex AD's to be put onto interest lists
Discussion
Got the call for a non date Sub from one of the AD's that I called, off to pick it up tomorrow. It's a fairly local AD too. Not bad going to be honest, only been a matter of weeks and before the potential/rumoured price hike. The only clause has been that I pay and pick it up within 48 hours.
Now need to get my hands onto an Hulk.
Now need to get my hands onto an Hulk.
My approach is that wherever I am in the world if there is a Rolex AD there I walk in and ask what they have in stock that I could buy right there and then. I bought my Sub date and white Daytona that way and saved money on the UK price as well (pre-Brexit Sterling free fall) I could have bought 3 Daytonas (not the new one though) that way over the last 5 years including one from the AD in St Mark's Square in Venice that they had just put in the window. And in the last year alone I could have bought a Batman, Hulk and a James Cameron which were all available in the Caribbean. Didn't buy them though as to me they weren't on my list plus the prices were pretty poor based on the exchange rate. I did however buy a Cartier Santos 100 Carbon and saved a little over a grand on the UK price even with the poor exchange rate.
Don't really bother with UK dealers anymore as they're not interested unless you're spending a fortune with them and they don't get the stock anymore. So keep trying, they are out there and if you're persistent you will get what you want, eventually.
Don't really bother with UK dealers anymore as they're not interested unless you're spending a fortune with them and they don't get the stock anymore. So keep trying, they are out there and if you're persistent you will get what you want, eventually.
I agree, you do need to be spending big bucks with AD's to get onto the other lists for the watches in demand. A friend of mine who buys from one of the AD's in Birmingham was advised that he was "bumped" up the Daytona list after his last purchase (black & gold GMT). This is now 2 purchases from Goldsmiths, lets see how this plays out.
On the plus note, I picked up my non date Sub last night. All tags kept on the watch, warranty card given to me, the plastic surround for the bezel and I also got the plastic case the watch is delivered in, no quibbles at all. Quite pleased with that.
On the plus note, I picked up my non date Sub last night. All tags kept on the watch, warranty card given to me, the plastic surround for the bezel and I also got the plastic case the watch is delivered in, no quibbles at all. Quite pleased with that.
I was in Orlando last month and just walked in to the Rolex showroom at Mall of Millenia for a browse at 9.35pm (they close at 10pm). They had the new Gold Daytona with rubber strap on display but not the rose gold or stainless steel ceramic bezel versions.
Got talking to the sales manager and he could tell I was a watch enthusiast and he took a good look at my RG AP ROO that I was wearing. He asked me if I had any Rolex watches and I was frank with him up front in that I have not been able to buy the watches I like as they are never in stock. I told him I would love to buy the ceramic dial daytona but am not willing to pay the silly premiums. I did tell him I had a Submariner that I managed to find at an AD and bought it at list price back in 2001.
I did not ask him if he can get me in to the new Daytona. He then himself said there are ways around that and if I wanted one he could "ring around" and try to get me one for tomorrow? I said sure go for it and he disappeared for 5-7 mins wondering around on his mobile phone. When he came back he had both the Rose Gold and Cermaic Bezel Daytonas in his hand!
He said he needed authorization as these watches were reserved but has been granted permission to sell them to me if I wanted either or both. I told him I was not there to buy but just browse so a bit of a shock but I would come back at 9am and take the stainless Steel Daytona. I did not go back as I don't need the watch and was not interested in flipping it either. I just don't like the brand anymore due to these antics.
It's all a big f
king drama staged really well by the entire dealer group and Rolex.
BTW are there premiums on the rose gold too?
Got talking to the sales manager and he could tell I was a watch enthusiast and he took a good look at my RG AP ROO that I was wearing. He asked me if I had any Rolex watches and I was frank with him up front in that I have not been able to buy the watches I like as they are never in stock. I told him I would love to buy the ceramic dial daytona but am not willing to pay the silly premiums. I did tell him I had a Submariner that I managed to find at an AD and bought it at list price back in 2001.
I did not ask him if he can get me in to the new Daytona. He then himself said there are ways around that and if I wanted one he could "ring around" and try to get me one for tomorrow? I said sure go for it and he disappeared for 5-7 mins wondering around on his mobile phone. When he came back he had both the Rose Gold and Cermaic Bezel Daytonas in his hand!
He said he needed authorization as these watches were reserved but has been granted permission to sell them to me if I wanted either or both. I told him I was not there to buy but just browse so a bit of a shock but I would come back at 9am and take the stainless Steel Daytona. I did not go back as I don't need the watch and was not interested in flipping it either. I just don't like the brand anymore due to these antics.
It's all a big f
king drama staged really well by the entire dealer group and Rolex. BTW are there premiums on the rose gold too?
I'd imagine someone will call custard on that story, but I wouldn't be surprised either if that was the case! I'm sure the chap at WoS told me he had 2 Batman's in the safe when my wife picked up her lady date. I'm kicking myself for not asking him to repeat what he said.
The rose gold Daytona's don't command a premium, infact I think you could even get some discount on them. It's the SS Daytona's that are going for silly money. I'd love to be in the position where I have the choice of keeping it or selling it on, maybe one day!
The rose gold Daytona's don't command a premium, infact I think you could even get some discount on them. It's the SS Daytona's that are going for silly money. I'd love to be in the position where I have the choice of keeping it or selling it on, maybe one day!
A bump to the thread regarding AD's. I had one of the more hostile AD's call me yesterday if I was still interested in being kept on their waiting list for a watch. Asked again why am I on their list and not somewhere closer to home, and was told that they would keep the warranty card for 12 months too.
El stovey said:
If people weren’t so materialistic then the watches would be thousands cheaper and there wouldn’t be any waiting lists. This is simply supply and demand driven by consumerism.
Exactly, and without the demand certain Watches wouldn't carry the Caveot that people crave but since they do and you can afford it or aspire to it why not enjoy it.Watches and Cars, as a comparison you have to be very brave with and generally seriously wealthy to purchase a Car New Now and get a good residual at resale, however, a desirable Watch could give a good return quite easily, not withstanding the fact that the pleasure of wearing the Watch for all to see as opposed to your Vehicle investment being parked where nobody sees it.
Materialistic, Successful,showing off, investable,who cares it's your choice.
PrancingHorses said:
Agree on the Custard bit but I have no need to lie on here it is what it is 
Fake waiting lists are the Rolex norm it seems...
Custard? Fake waiting lists? I have no reason to doubt you but this is my experience. Fake waiting lists are the Rolex norm it seems...
So after reading your posts and I'm trying to get my head around what you've said.
"You'd love to buy a ceramic Daytona" and when offered at retail you turn it down with no silly premiums? Then you say you don't like the brand anymore, why go in to the shop in the first place? IMO, the drama is about the buying experience and not caused by dealers.
You see, I was in that very same Orlando Rolex shop last week and asked for a steel ceramic Daytona, he said he had one but could not sell it to me as it was reserved for a customer. You not only gave up something very special but actions like this may of thwarted chances for other "walk in" customers who truly wanted one. I have tried around 20 to 30 dealers personally walked in, spoken to the sales manager in both Europe and the States, nothing, no steel Daytona's for sale.
I did however purchase another on my want list, a Batman from Mayors in Florida Mall, a customer failed to pick it up on Friday so I picked it up on the Saturday so a good result in the end.
Dave350 said:
I had an email from a kind member inhere recommending a couple of ADs nearby.
Made an enquiry with the first one and had a phonecall not long after saying they had one in stock.
I’ll be going on the weekend! He said they get 1/2 subs a month.
Long shot but if anyone knows of any ADs who might have a hulk it would be greatly appreciated as I am after one as my first rolexMade an enquiry with the first one and had a phonecall not long after saying they had one in stock.
I’ll be going on the weekend! He said they get 1/2 subs a month.
Cipo said:
Custard? Fake waiting lists? I have no reason to doubt you but this is my experience.
So after reading your posts and I'm trying to get my head around what you've said.
"You'd love to buy a ceramic Daytona" and when offered at retail you turn it down with no silly premiums? Then you say you don't like the brand anymore, why go in to the shop in the first place? IMO, the drama is about the buying experience and not caused by dealers.
You see, I was in that very same Orlando Rolex shop last week and asked for a steel ceramic Daytona, he said he had one but could not sell it to me as it was reserved for a customer. You not only gave up something very special but actions like this may of thwarted chances for other "walk in" customers who truly wanted one. I have tried around 20 to 30 dealers personally walked in, spoken to the sales manager in both Europe and the States, nothing, no steel Daytona's for sale.
I did however purchase another on my want list, a Batman from Mayors in Florida Mall, a customer failed to pick it up on Friday so I picked it up on the Saturday so a good result in the end.
What price did you pay for the BLNR? in FL so no sales tax? I will be there next month, trying Heathrow, Schipol, JFK, CDG in the next few weeks ... So after reading your posts and I'm trying to get my head around what you've said.
"You'd love to buy a ceramic Daytona" and when offered at retail you turn it down with no silly premiums? Then you say you don't like the brand anymore, why go in to the shop in the first place? IMO, the drama is about the buying experience and not caused by dealers.
You see, I was in that very same Orlando Rolex shop last week and asked for a steel ceramic Daytona, he said he had one but could not sell it to me as it was reserved for a customer. You not only gave up something very special but actions like this may of thwarted chances for other "walk in" customers who truly wanted one. I have tried around 20 to 30 dealers personally walked in, spoken to the sales manager in both Europe and the States, nothing, no steel Daytona's for sale.
I did however purchase another on my want list, a Batman from Mayors in Florida Mall, a customer failed to pick it up on Friday so I picked it up on the Saturday so a good result in the end.
Trexthedinosaur said:
Cipo said:
Custard? Fake waiting lists? I have no reason to doubt you but this is my experience.
So after reading your posts and I'm trying to get my head around what you've said.
"You'd love to buy a ceramic Daytona" and when offered at retail you turn it down with no silly premiums? Then you say you don't like the brand anymore, why go in to the shop in the first place? IMO, the drama is about the buying experience and not caused by dealers.
You see, I was in that very same Orlando Rolex shop last week and asked for a steel ceramic Daytona, he said he had one but could not sell it to me as it was reserved for a customer. You not only gave up something very special but actions like this may of thwarted chances for other "walk in" customers who truly wanted one. I have tried around 20 to 30 dealers personally walked in, spoken to the sales manager in both Europe and the States, nothing, no steel Daytona's for sale.
I did however purchase another on my want list, a Batman from Mayors in Florida Mall, a customer failed to pick it up on Friday so I picked it up on the Saturday so a good result in the end.
What price did you pay for the BLNR? in FL so no sales tax? I will be there next month, trying Heathrow, Schipol, JFK, CDG in the next few weeks ... So after reading your posts and I'm trying to get my head around what you've said.
"You'd love to buy a ceramic Daytona" and when offered at retail you turn it down with no silly premiums? Then you say you don't like the brand anymore, why go in to the shop in the first place? IMO, the drama is about the buying experience and not caused by dealers.
You see, I was in that very same Orlando Rolex shop last week and asked for a steel ceramic Daytona, he said he had one but could not sell it to me as it was reserved for a customer. You not only gave up something very special but actions like this may of thwarted chances for other "walk in" customers who truly wanted one. I have tried around 20 to 30 dealers personally walked in, spoken to the sales manager in both Europe and the States, nothing, no steel Daytona's for sale.
I did however purchase another on my want list, a Batman from Mayors in Florida Mall, a customer failed to pick it up on Friday so I picked it up on the Saturday so a good result in the end.
I'm really happy with the purchase regardless of price as it really is a stunning piece.
Hope this helps.
Cipo said:
Unfortunately I had no negotiating on the sales tax as there was a guy in the store also looking to buy it! All in all, it was £7.2k. Sometimes, you just have to pay the money if you want something. It wasn't like I'd paid over retail, just an awful exchange rate and FL state tax. I've only ever seen these for sale pre-owned for between £7-£8k and never in an AD new so had to have it as I didn't buy it for an investment but to wear.
I'm really happy with the purchase regardless of price as it really is a stunning piece.
Hope this helps.
If it’s any comfort they wouldn’t have discounted it anyway, or taken care of the tax for you (I tried in April) Not that I needed one, was just interested to see what they’d do. Pushed a hard bargain but there was absolutely no movement.I'm really happy with the purchase regardless of price as it really is a stunning piece.
Hope this helps.
On a slightly different note, a few grey dealers in the UK have them brand new and stickered around the £7600 mark. By the time you’ve factored in import VAT, probably best off just buying in the UK from a grey.
Cipo said:
PrancingHorses said:
Agree on the Custard bit but I have no need to lie on here it is what it is
Fake waiting lists are the Rolex norm it seems...
Custard? Fake waiting lists? I have no reason to doubt you but this is my experience. Fake waiting lists are the Rolex norm it seems...
So after reading your posts and I'm trying to get my head around what you've said.
"You'd love to buy a ceramic Daytona" and when offered at retail you turn it down with no silly premiums? Then you say you don't like the brand anymore, why go in to the shop in the first place? IMO, the drama is about the buying experience and not caused by dealers.
You see, I was in that very same Orlando Rolex shop last week and asked for a steel ceramic Daytona, he said he had one but could not sell it to me as it was reserved for a customer. You not only gave up something very special but actions like this may of thwarted chances for other "walk in" customers who truly wanted one. I have tried around 20 to 30 dealers personally walked in, spoken to the sales manager in both Europe and the States, nothing, no steel Daytona's for sale.
I did however purchase another on my want list, a Batman from Mayors in Florida Mall, a customer failed to pick it up on Friday so I picked it up on the Saturday so a good result in the end.
"You don't like the brand anymore, why go in to the shop in the first place"? Was waiting for a table at the cheesecake factory downstairs - had 45 mins to kill so killed it - sorry to offend you by walking in to a shop for a brand I don't like
"You not only gave up something very special but actions like this may of thwarted chances for other "walk in" customers who truly wanted one." - This is the most hilarious statement I have read on Pistonheads in a few years! What is special about it? The fake waiting list? You said it your self - he had one! He said the exact same thing he said to me i.e it is reserved for someone else - that is complete bulls
t as if he thought you would buy it he would have given it to you. I am not sure what watch you were wearing but his eyes were glued to my £32k ROO rose gold AP so he pretty much knew I could afford it - maybe you were not convincing enough? Don't blame me 
If it helps I was in Dubai last week and there are a couple available at the Mall of Emirates at list price - black dial ;-)
offshoreeddy said:
This.
Economy flight to Dubai and walk into, say, Siddiqi's at The Atlantis. Walk out either that day, or, at most, the day after, with whatever Rolex sports model you want.
Really? Including a ceramic Daytona? Missus going there for a long weekend soon so I may send her on an errandEconomy flight to Dubai and walk into, say, Siddiqi's at The Atlantis. Walk out either that day, or, at most, the day after, with whatever Rolex sports model you want.
PrancingHorses said:
Cipo said:
PrancingHorses said:
Agree on the Custard bit but I have no need to lie on here it is what it is
Fake waiting lists are the Rolex norm it seems...
Custard? Fake waiting lists? I have no reason to doubt you but this is my experience. Fake waiting lists are the Rolex norm it seems...
So after reading your posts and I'm trying to get my head around what you've said.
"You'd love to buy a ceramic Daytona" and when offered at retail you turn it down with no silly premiums? Then you say you don't like the brand anymore, why go in to the shop in the first place? IMO, the drama is about the buying experience and not caused by dealers.
You see, I was in that very same Orlando Rolex shop last week and asked for a steel ceramic Daytona, he said he had one but could not sell it to me as it was reserved for a customer. You not only gave up something very special but actions like this may of thwarted chances for other "walk in" customers who truly wanted one. I have tried around 20 to 30 dealers personally walked in, spoken to the sales manager in both Europe and the States, nothing, no steel Daytona's for sale.
I did however purchase another on my want list, a Batman from Mayors in Florida Mall, a customer failed to pick it up on Friday so I picked it up on the Saturday so a good result in the end.
"You don't like the brand anymore, why go in to the shop in the first place"? Was waiting for a table at the cheesecake factory downstairs - had 45 mins to kill so killed it - sorry to offend you by walking in to a shop for a brand I don't like
"You not only gave up something very special but actions like this may of thwarted chances for other "walk in" customers who truly wanted one." - This is the most hilarious statement I have read on Pistonheads in a few years! What is special about it? The fake waiting list? You said it your self - he had one! He said the exact same thing he said to me i.e it is reserved for someone else - that is complete bulls
t as if he thought you would buy it he would have given it to you. I am not sure what watch you were wearing but his eyes were glued to my £32k ROO rose gold AP so he pretty much knew I could afford it - maybe you were not convincing enough? Don't blame me If it helps I was in Dubai last week and there are a couple available at the Mall of Emirates at list price - black dial ;-)
To be honest, and on reflection I wasn't being very fair but I think because I now know I was very close to one I was obviously very disappointed. Toys out of the pram and all that.....
Thanks for the heads up regarding Dubai appreciated.
offshoreeddy said:
PrancingHorses said:
If it helps I was in Dubai last week and there are a couple available at the Mall of Emirates at list price - black dial ;-)
This.Economy flight to Dubai and walk into, say, Siddiqi's at The Atlantis. Walk out either that day, or, at most, the day after, with whatever Rolex sports model you want.
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