Rolex Waiting Lists

Rolex Waiting Lists

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tangerine_sedge

4,815 posts

219 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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El stovey said:
bobbybee said:
Make friends with the shop assistant, become a regular customer, wipe their ar5e, shine their shoes etc etc.

What a palava. Has everyone lost all perspective? Or gone mad?

It’s just a steel watch, a mass produced, machined watch from a mid tier manufacturer, that is all.
It’s amazing.

People swapping tips on how best to be worthy enough to buy a watch from a shop. hehe
smile it's almost like the potential purchasers need confirmation that they are special and somehow more worthy than the plebs. This is the very definition of the tail wagging the dog, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the bubble finally collapses...

Oddly enough I didn't have to jump through such hoops when buying a much more expensive car from a dealer last year.

Nomal

258 posts

112 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Hang On said:
dogz said:
Who was the AD? I’ve tried loads and just get a brick wall.

I’m as serious as they come and want to buy to wear rather than have as a trinket in a box or flip
With respect, ‘Who was the AD?’ misses the point. Several people had been in that day, as they do most days, asking to be put on various waiting lists and had all been told flatly that the lists are closed. Walking in unannounced and asking to be put on a list is the worst way to go about getting a watch.

I had never bought from this retailer but this was my third or fourth visit to the shop. I wore a different watch each time, as a talking point, and we shared perspectives on Rolex and other brands, on Baselworld 2018, football, house contents insurance etc, etc...... I never even hinted that I wanted a scarce watch until the end of our last chat.

You might want to find a good young salesperson at an AD sufficiently local to you that you can drop in a lot, develop a relationship with them, establish that they are personally responsible for allocating the watches that come in, assure them that you are a serious collector and take it from there. They can sell these watches several times over and, unless you resort to bribery, they make the same money from each (cash) purchase. So there are other factors at play in their decision making process. You have to work that. The lists are nonsense; there is no first come first served.

By ‘serious’ I mean that you have already built a collection of some sort, that you will be buying several watches over the course of the next few years. You will always buy from that salesman, following him to another store if needed. You will buy through good times and bad. You are not interested in resale values. You will introduce friends and family members who will also buy through him etc, etc........

...... none of this need necessarily be true but you need to sell the story well enough for it to be plausible. The salesman will give preferential treatment to lifetime costumers with a big sales potential and to his friends. Become both.
I am on a list or so my AD tells me. I want one badly, but not so badly that I will go to that extent. Its only a watch not the ADs daughter that I am courting LOL!!

funinhounslow

1,643 posts

143 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Let's not forget you could get a 39mm Oyster perpetual tomorrow, and it looks pretty good in the new colours, as well as the grey.

I think it's discreet and elegant.

Arguably more versatile than a Sub (goes better with a suit), and more restrained than a milgaus or air king. And it was an OP not an Explorer that Hillary wore on Everest if a watch's heritage interests you.

Worth considering...

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/cost-entry-rolex/

Dave350

359 posts

119 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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All this brown nosing talk is ridiculous and quite frankly amusing. Can't help but think all those doing it don't need to do it at all and just sound like a bunch of saddo's!

I called Pragnells in Statford Upon Avon, asked if they had any Subs, he said not yet but hopefully within the next week or so.

Called me back a week later, told me he had it, I went in 3 days later, put a deposit down and collected it a week later.

I didn't ask him about house insurance, football teams, promising future purchases, buying other watches so 'he knew I was serious'. Absolutely laughable.


devnull

3,754 posts

158 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Dave350 said:
All this brown nosing talk is ridiculous and quite frankly amusing. Can't help but think all those doing it don't need to do it at all and just sound like a bunch of saddo's!

I called Pragnells in Statford Upon Avon, asked if they had any Subs, he said not yet but hopefully within the next week or so.

Called me back a week later, told me he had it, I went in 3 days later, put a deposit down and collected it a week later.

I didn't ask him about house insurance, football teams, promising future purchases, buying other watches so 'he knew I was serious'. Absolutely laughable.
But was he selling them at list or £2500 above list?

I think the point of a lot of comments on here is that people want to pay the book price, rather than silly markup.

As I mentioned in my post above, I went to one Goldsmiths and I got put on the list. Went to the other one near me and I have some garbage spouted about how amazingly lucky I was to be put on the other list, and that theirs was closed and "at least" 5 years long - he then told me he had 15 on the list and that store gets 3 subs a year in.

Dave350

359 posts

119 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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devnull said:
But was he selling them at list or £2500 above list?

I think the point of a lot of comments on here is that people want to pay the book price, rather than silly markup.

As I mentioned in my post above, I went to one Goldsmiths and I got put on the list. Went to the other one near me and I have some garbage spouted about how amazingly lucky I was to be put on the other list, and that theirs was closed and "at least" 5 years long - he then told me he had 15 on the list and that store gets 3 subs a year in.
I paid list price at £6,250

James_B

12,642 posts

258 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Dave350 said:
All this brown nosing talk is ridiculous and quite frankly amusing. Can't help but think all those doing it don't need to do it at all and just sound like a bunch of saddo's!
May I ask a couple of questions, please?

What function do you think that the apostrophe is serving in the last word above, and what is it that you do that you can be so incompetent in the language yet afford to spend the money on nice watches?

Edited to say, apologies, I see that you sell cars, hence the need for bling and the superior attitude.

As you were...

Edited by James_B on Monday 13th August 19:33

dimots

3,099 posts

91 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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James_B said:
May I ask a couple of questions, please?

What function do you think that the apostrophe is serving in the last word above, and what is it that you do that you can be so incompetent in the language yet afford to spend the money on nice watches?

Edited to say, apologies, I see that you sell cars, hence the need for bling and the superior attitude.

As you were...

Edited by James_B on Monday 13th August 19:33
You are such a weapon.

bonerp

815 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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James_B said:
May I ask a couple of questions, please?

What function do you think that the apostrophe is serving in the last word above, and what is it that you do that you can be so incompetent in the language yet afford to spend the money on nice watches?

Edited to say, apologies, I see that you sell cars, hence the need for bling and the superior attitude.

As you were...

Edited by James_B on Monday 13th August 19:33
Pretty unnecessary and making yourself look like a saddo.

PD1

147 posts

205 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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James_B said:
May I ask a couple of questions, please?

What function do you think that the apostrophe is serving in the last word above, and what is it that you do that you can be so incompetent in the language yet afford to spend the money on nice watches?

Edited to say, apologies, I see that you sell cars, hence the need for bling and the superior attitude.

As you were...

Edited by James_B on Monday 13th August 19:33
PRICK

Graemsay

612 posts

213 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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I suspect that what people want is for Rolexes to be readily available, and also hold their value or appreciate on the secondary market.

That's probably mutually exclusive. smile

From this forum, it sounds as though something as unobtainable as a Daytona will arrive in ten or eleven months. Other things seem to turn up in a matter of weeks.

Rolex sell a million watches a year, and they're not going to shift that number if they don't supply customers. Just ignore the BS by your dealer, and be willing to wait. Yeah, it's a game, and it's annoying, but the alternative is to pay over the odds on the grey market.

Dave350

359 posts

119 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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James_B said:
May I ask a couple of questions, please?

What function do you think that the apostrophe is serving in the last word above, and what is it that you do that you can be so incompetent in the language yet afford to spend the money on nice watches?

Edited to say, apologies, I see that you sell cars, hence the need for bling and the superior attitude.

As you were...

Edited by James_B on Monday 13th August 19:33
It appears your research skills are not as good as your ability to be a d*ck.

I'm a Finance Manager / Accountant (in a sister company to a dealership, translation...not a car dealership) and made the money to buy nice watches through private investments in shares, currently sitting at about a 300% return in my first 3 years of investing.

As you were...


Edited by Dave350 on Tuesday 14th August 10:42

aeropilot

34,697 posts

228 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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Dave350 said:
All this brown nosing talk is ridiculous and quite frankly amusing. Can't help but think all those doing it don't need to do it at all and just sound like a bunch of saddo's!

I called Pragnells in Statford Upon Avon, asked if they had any Subs, he said not yet but hopefully within the next week or so.

Called me back a week later, told me he had it, I went in 3 days later, put a deposit down and collected it a week later.

I didn't ask him about house insurance, football teams, promising future purchases, buying other watches so 'he knew I was serious'. Absolutely laughable.
Try doing that in London/South-East or even the North-West Metropolitan area, or even one of the 'big chain AD's' in smaller towns/cities and you'll find a very different story - and its far from laughable.

You are simply lucky that you have a good independent AD in a reasonable area. It bet it would be a different story if you called their Mayfair branch and asked the same question.

bonerp

815 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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makes me wonder how good my independent AD is if they are saying 18 month list on Tudor GMT and 4 yrs on Daytona's!!! Might try a couple of others to try my luck. My problem is there is only one in my post code area and others may not want to play. Theres no rush but I don't feel confident about their ability to supply...having been on the (Daytona) list for nearly a year already...

Dave350

359 posts

119 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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aeropilot said:
Try doing that in London/South-East or even the North-West Metropolitan area, or even one of the 'big chain AD's' in smaller towns/cities and you'll find a very different story - and its far from laughable.

You are simply lucky that you have a good independent AD in a reasonable area. It bet it would be a different story if you called their Mayfair branch and asked the same question.
I tried Goldsmiths and WoS in Birmingham and both were useless quoting 12month waiting lists (12 months later give or take and I still haven't had a call from either) so I do understand the big chain AD's can't provide the thing they are there to provide to genuine buyers.

I suppose my only point being I didn't need to resort to all the laughable tactics mentioned of brown nosing him about football, politics, colour of fence paint etc, and simply called a differed AD and had a 30 minute drive out of Birmingham to Stratford and it was on my wrist.

bobbybee

872 posts

155 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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Graemsay said:
Rolex sell a million watches a year,
Sorry to be pedantic but, no they don't it's around 800,000, back in 2015 and reducing production year on year back to around 600,000.

Or so I read somewhere a few years back, of maybe dreamt it. As I want my mass produced average dive watch to make me even more special than I am already.

alfaman

6,416 posts

235 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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bonerp said:
James_B said:
May I ask a couple of questions, please?

What function do you think that the apostrophe is serving in the last word above, and what is it that you do that you can be so incompetent in the language yet afford to spend the money on nice watches?

Edited to say, apologies, I see that you sell cars, hence the need for bling and the superior attitude.

As you were...

Edited by James_B on Monday 13th August 19:33
Pretty unnecessary and making yourself look like a saddo.
Wears a ‘tool’ watch ?

HotJambalaya

2,026 posts

181 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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I still want the seadweller 50th, but I wouldnt mind that new daytona, I actually think the new ceramic bezel looks great. Honestly, there's space in my life for both...

I know someone sponsored by rolex, so I'm going to tap him up next time I see him, to see how easy it is for him to get the high demand models

cslwannabe

1,411 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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After trying a Tudor GMT and BB58 recently I decided to put my name down for a Rolex at Goldsmiths after emailing several branches for an estimate on lead time. It was all a bit surreal I have to say - no deposit, no paperwork, no double checking what I wanted, no price quoted. They entered my details into their system and that was pretty much it - I wasn’t sure they thought I was a genuine prospective customer tbh. Will see what happens!

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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HotJambalaya said:
I still want the seadweller 50th, but I wouldnt mind that new daytona, I actually think the new ceramic bezel looks great. Honestly, there's space in my life for both...

I know someone sponsored by rolex, so I'm going to tap him up next time I see him, to see how easy it is for him to get the high demand models
My SD50 is my favourite in the collection at the minute. The ceramic Daytona is a funny one, I put it on and I'm not impressed but the more I wear it the more I love it.

Take it off and look at it the following morning and just think "ah I'll sell it".

I think the problem is, the amount I've been offered for it (£14K) it just doesn't seem worth that much-never mind what the person buying it will be selling it for!