Homage Watches

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TiggerBits

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199 posts

74 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Always a controversial subject, but an interesting one all the same. There are some people who consider them little better than fakes, but I wouldn't agree. The world is full of homage consumables. Unless you are wearing a very expensive labelled shirt, the chances are you are wearing a homage, and the same can be said for hand bags, wedding dresses, right through to furniture. I fail to see why watches should be any different, but I know many Wis's would argue this point. I love the designs of various luxury watches, but can't justify the expense, so I don't see anything wrong with wearing something very similar, as long as it is pretending to be the real thing. Below is the watch I am wearing today, I wonder if you can guess what it looks like smile



thebraketester

14,227 posts

138 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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I’ve been looking at the Parnis IWC copy. Bit odd because if I could afford a real IWC I wouldn’t buy one, but the parnis at 80quid seems appealing for some reason. Would take the auto mechanism out of it though and have it as hand wind

TiggerBits

Original Poster:

199 posts

74 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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thebraketester said:
I’ve been looking at the Parnis IWC copy. Bit odd because if I could afford a real IWC I wouldn’t buy one, but the parnis at 80quid seems appealing for some reason. Would take the auto mechanism out of it though and have it as hand wind
It's a Panerai homage actually. The movement is a Seagull auto and works very well. Accurate and reliable. Not the quietest mechanism, but noisy either

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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I have a handful of them. Don't see the problem. The Sub is a copy of the FF. biggrin

thebraketester

14,227 posts

138 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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TiggerBits said:
It's a Panerai homage actually. The movement is a Seagull auto and works very well. Accurate and reliable. Not the quietest mechanism, but noisy either
I know. I was just making comment on other homage parnis watches.

TiggerBits

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199 posts

74 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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thebraketester said:
I know. I was just making comment on other homage parnis watches.
Sorry, misunderstood.

utgjon

713 posts

173 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Nothing wrong with homages in my book. My two recent acquisitions:




Good ETA movements, good finishing, very acceptable at £800 for the pair.

TiggerBits

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199 posts

74 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Can't quite see the name. If they are Steinhart (which is my guess) the spec is fantastic, and you should be proud to own such beautiful watches

Sheetmaself

5,676 posts

198 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Hoofy said:
I have a handful of them. Don't see the problem. The Sub is a copy of the FF. biggrin
This is what i was going to say, people get all pissy at homage watches up to a price point after a certain price point it stops being a fake or homage and becomes influenced by.

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Sheetmaself said:
Hoofy said:
I have a handful of them. Don't see the problem. The Sub is a copy of the FF. biggrin
This is what i was going to say, people get all pissy at homage watches up to a price point after a certain price point it stops being a fake or homage and becomes influenced by.
Maybe we need to start some kind of FTSE-style chart which marks the price point. nuts

Squadrone Rosso

2,752 posts

147 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Kit cars of the watch world?

Dodgy facsimile of a labmo with Sierra running gear........

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Squadrone Rosso said:
Kit cars of the watch world?

Dodgy facsimile of a labmo with Sierra running gear........
Not really. Kit cars are built by the consumer. wink

AmosMoses

4,042 posts

165 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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I had a Parnis Panerai homage for a few months just to see how the size of it sat with me as i was considering a Panerai.

A decent watch for £60, had a proper power reserve indicator, kept excellent time and felt nice quality.

Wasn't for me, too big so sold it on.

Panerai now make a 38mm Luminor though yum

Edited by AmosMoses on Tuesday 20th February 08:55

utgjon

713 posts

173 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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TiggerBits said:
Can't quite see the name. If they are Steinhart (which is my guess) the spec is fantastic, and you should be proud to own such beautiful watches
Yep, Steinhart Ocean 39 Green and GMT-Ocean One. Very impressed overall, the green is definitely the favourite at the moment.

Here it is with it's big brother:


Ranger 6

7,052 posts

249 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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utgjon said:
TiggerBits said:
Can't quite see the name. If they are Steinhart (which is my guess) the spec is fantastic, and you should be proud to own such beautiful watches
Yep, Steinhart Ocean 39 Green and GMT-Ocean One. Very impressed overall, the green is definitely the favourite at the moment.

Here it is with it's big brother:
Lovely.

I've had my Ocean Red for a few years now. I did have an issue with gaining time and sent it back to them for a serivice, but they fixed it under warranty which impressed me enormously as I think it was outside the two years. I'd be happy to buy another from Gunther.

I've got my eye on a Nav B-Chrono 44 next..... smile

utgjon

713 posts

173 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Ranger 6 said:
Lovely.

I've had my Ocean Red for a few years now. I did have an issue with gaining time and sent it back to them for a serivice, but they fixed it under warranty which impressed me enormously as I think it was outside the two years. I'd be happy to buy another from Gunther.

I've got my eye on a Nav B-Chrono 44 next..... smile
Good choice on the ocean Red and definitely go for the Nav-B! My ocean green is +4/5 seconds a day at the moment, which I'm happy with. I haven't taken it off my wrist long enough to test the GMT yet!

I didn't deal direct with Steinhart as I was impatient, so went with Neil at Chronomaster. Safe to say, I'd happily deal with him again, service was impeccable.


ReaperCushions

6,016 posts

184 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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I've owned a few homage watches in my time and I had a similar situation with all of them.. I personally felt embarrassed when someone would approach you and say 'Oh nice Panerai, what model is it, I love those watches, show me' etc. I would then stumble around trying to tell them it wasn't a real one.. but its not a 'fake' just a watch made to look like one and well... errrr... yeah.. I just can't afford one.

Sad, and I felt stupid that I let it get to me... but it did. So I stopped wearing them.




utgjon

713 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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ReaperCushions said:
I've owned a few homage watches in my time and I had a similar situation with all of them.. I personally felt embarrassed when someone would approach you and say 'Oh nice Panerai, what model is it, I love those watches, show me' etc. I would then stumble around trying to tell them it wasn't a real one.. but its not a 'fake' just a watch made to look like one and well... errrr... yeah.. I just can't afford one.

Sad, and I felt stupid that I let it get to me... but it did. So I stopped wearing them.
Interesting, I can understand how that may occur. I don't know many other watch people, so haven't had that issue with the steinharts. It is, however, only fuelling the desire for a proper Sub, instead of curbing it! That was something I hadn't counted on.

ReaperCushions

6,016 posts

184 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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utgjon said:
ReaperCushions said:
I've owned a few homage watches in my time and I had a similar situation with all of them.. I personally felt embarrassed when someone would approach you and say 'Oh nice Panerai, what model is it, I love those watches, show me' etc. I would then stumble around trying to tell them it wasn't a real one.. but its not a 'fake' just a watch made to look like one and well... errrr... yeah.. I just can't afford one.

Sad, and I felt stupid that I let it get to me... but it did. So I stopped wearing them.
Interesting, I can understand how that may occur. I don't know many other watch people, so haven't had that issue with the steinharts. It is, however, only fuelling the desire for a proper Sub, instead of curbing it! That was something I hadn't counted on.
Yes, that is inevitable!

The other thing that was interesting was I found I'd spend probably $1500 on the various homage watches (I bought maybe 7/8 of them in various guises).

I started to then think that $1500 was halfway to something quite nice (Tudor, Breitling, Oris, Omega, TAG etc...).

I am now suffering from the next layer up of the same issue. I have 3 nice watches (Tudor, Omega, and a Breitling) that cost around $10,000... that is a nice Rolex waiting to happen!






utgjon

713 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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ReaperCushions said:
Yes, that is inevitable!

The other thing that was interesting was I found I'd spend probably $1500 on the various homage watches (I bought maybe 7/8 of them in various guises).

I started to then think that $1500 was halfway to something quite nice (Tudor, Breitling, Oris, Omega, TAG etc...).

I am now suffering from the next layer up of the same issue. I have 3 nice watches (Tudor, Omega, and a Breitling) that cost around $10,000... that is a nice Rolex waiting to happen!
Yup, in contrast, the Steinharts are £350 and £450. I already have the Omega, and the Sub is £6000... so quite a disparity!