Your thoughts on fake watches
Discussion
Wearing a nice watch (and owning a few) makes me feel good. If anyone noticed me wearing my Rolex, Zenith or Ulyssee Nardin watches they would probably think they were fake anyway, because I'm either in my supermarket uniform or Tesco/Sainsburys jeans, T shirt and trainers. Only a few people in real life know that I'm into watches.
While all of this is hilarious, I dislike fakes as well. blatant copies with another logo on it? Not so much.
All this said and done, the cars above only ring true of <20£ fakes in watches.
Don't ignore this video for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTqC2Yxxs
TL;DR : A $ 500 fake could fool almost anybody if you don't open it up.
All this said and done, the cars above only ring true of <20£ fakes in watches.
Don't ignore this video for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTqC2Yxxs
TL;DR : A $ 500 fake could fool almost anybody if you don't open it up.
ZesPak said:
Don't ignore this video for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTqC2Yxxs
TL;DR : A $ 500 fake could fool almost anybody if you don't open it up.
That was very interesting.... I don't think many people (me included) could tell the difference, even with a genuine one alongside it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTqC2Yxxs
TL;DR : A $ 500 fake could fool almost anybody if you don't open it up.
ZesPak said:
While all of this is hilarious, I dislike fakes as well. blatant copies with another logo on it? Not so much.
All this said and done, the cars above only ring true of <20£ fakes in watches.
Don't ignore this video for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTqC2Yxxs
TL;DR : A $ 500 fake could fool almost anybody if you don't open it up.
And if you buy, say, a real Rolex Oyster with the caliber you want for your fake Submariner, you can swap them and have a fake that will fool most people and a gutted Rolex with Box & Papers from Rolex. All this said and done, the cars above only ring true of <20£ fakes in watches.
Don't ignore this video for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTqC2Yxxs
TL;DR : A $ 500 fake could fool almost anybody if you don't open it up.
It's organised crime at the end of the day.
Lord Marylebone said:
.........I cannot stand any Rolex watches (or other brands) that involve gold , diamonds, precious stones, numerous complications , or anything like that.
Seriously Lord M, you can't find even a tiny bit of love in your heart for this.......?http://www.ablogtowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/201...
joyless lobotomised parrot said:
Seriously Lord M, you can't find even a tiny bit of love in your heart for this.......?
http://www.ablogtowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/201...
I’d like it much more in silver / platinum!http://www.ablogtowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/201...
InductionRoar said:
Fakes are tragic in every walk of life.
Have you seen my new Pagani?
The dashboard is stunning.
If you had a genuine Pagani or an F40, would that guy's fake upset you? Or would you be too busy enjoying yours to worry? To use a more every day example, if somebody sticks an M-badge on their 320d does that impact on how much you enjoy your M3?Have you seen my new Pagani?
The dashboard is stunning.
It seems to come back to the same thing - what a person's enjoyment of "the genuine article" is derived from.
If it's the quality/engineering/feel then it doesn't matter how many other people have a fake.
It is only if your enjoyment is derived from image and how you are perceived by others when "fakes" become a problem.
Countdown said:
If you had a genuine Pagani or an F40, would that guy's fake upset you? Or would you be too busy enjoying yours to worry? To use a more every day example, if somebody sticks an M-badge on their 320d does that impact on how much you enjoy your M3?
We are back to your strawman argument again. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. It might make me think the owner was a bit of a plonker imho, but that is different from your point.joyless lobotomised parrot said:
Lord Marylebone said:
.........I cannot stand any Rolex watches (or other brands) that involve gold , diamonds, precious stones, numerous complications , or anything like that.
Seriously Lord M, you can't find even a tiny bit of love in your heart for this.......?http://www.ablogtowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/201...
I can appreciate the incredible quality and craftsmanship of it, but the style of it simply isn't for me.
As the poster above said, if it was silver in colour then that would help a little, but it's just not my thing.
Countdown said:
If you had a genuine Pagani or an F40, would that guy's fake upset you? Or would you be too busy enjoying yours to worry? To use a more every day example, if somebody sticks an M-badge on their 320d does that impact on how much you enjoy your M3?
I think we're talking about different things now.Cars like those often get a lot of negative attention on the forums - which personally, I've always felt was unjustified. Sure, they don't always look nice - and often the cost of doing it would get you a long way to buying the real thing (maybe not a Zonda or F40, but some of the replicas of cheaper cars). But it's somebody's pride, and they've spent a lot of money and / or time on getting as close as they can to the real thing given their circumstances. I have a lot of respect for people who do that, and are trying to live their car dream as closely as they can.
For me, that is different from somebody buying a knock off watch to kid themselves - or others - that it's the real thing. (And I agree about the link to organised crime).
ETA : I imagine some people will say "it's no different" - but for me it is. I understand that people have a passion for cars - plenty of us grew up with pictures of Lambo's and Ferrari's on our bedroom walls. I'm pretty sure that most of the people who buy fake watches didn't grow up with a picture of a Rolex Sub on their bedroom wall. The reasons for obtaining the fake are somewhat different.
Edited by davek_964 on Tuesday 1st May 09:05
Justayellowbadge said:
Those buyers are still buying into the brand and marketing.
Exactly my point, a Seiko would probably last just as long, but the Rolex marketing machine and image is that strong that people will buy into it.For the record I own a few Rolex watches so not judging, but the number of people who notice a Rolex immediately assume you have loads of money and are a showoff.
Countdown said:
InductionRoar said:
Fakes are tragic in every walk of life.
Have you seen my new Pagani?
The dashboard is stunning.
If you had a genuine Pagani or an F40, would that guy's fake upset you? Or would you be too busy enjoying yours to worry? To use a more every day example, if somebody sticks an M-badge on their 320d does that impact on how much you enjoy your M3?Have you seen my new Pagani?
The dashboard is stunning.
It seems to come back to the same thing - what a person's enjoyment of "the genuine article" is derived from.
If it's the quality/engineering/feel then it doesn't matter how many other people have a fake.
It is only if your enjoyment is derived from image and how you are perceived by others when "fakes" become a problem.
t version of you, really embarrassing, and went around telling people he was you. Yes it's their choice. Yes it is all about 'your perception' of it... but through this joke i made maybe you can see that it isn't just as simple as you're saying.Blown2CV said:
how about if someone dressed up as you every day for a year. How about if they made it a really st version of you, really embarrassing, and went around telling people he was you. Yes it's their choice. Yes it is all about 'your perception' of it... but through this joke i made maybe you can see that it isn't just as simple as you're saying.
t version of you, really embarrassing, and went around telling people he was you. Yes it's their choice. Yes it is all about 'your perception' of it... but through this joke i made maybe you can see that it isn't just as simple as you're saying.
"I" am not a "watch" or a "car" or a "painting".
If I was "Rolex" and somebody was passing fakes off as genuines then I can completely see where the company is coming from. It hurts their brand, it lessens the perceived prestige and, depending on how good the fakes are, fewer people might bother to buy a genuine item. So it has an impact on the bottom line.
But owners of genuine Rolexes keep saying the perceived prestige isn't the reason why they own it. It's the style/quality and various other things which (I assume) would be equally enjoyable if it didn't say "Rolex" on the dial.
I guess that's the $64k question - would you still pay £10k for your watch if it was exactly the same but said "Casio" or "Timex" on the dial? ie the quality/feel/engineering is still the best but there is zero brand kudos.
Countdown said:
But owners of genuine Rolexes keep saying the perceived prestige isn't the reason why they own it. It's the style/quality and various other things which (I assume) would be equally enjoyable if it didn't say "Rolex" on the dial.
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