Your thoughts on fake watches
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bazjude2998 said:
There have been 300 + replies to this post and I can’t be arsed to read them all so my post may have been covered but here goes.
I have a very nice Genuine Rolex but recently bought a Submariner Kermit when I was in China .A brilliant copy and would fool most .I would much sooner be out on the streets with a £50 watch on my wrist than risk been kidnapped with £10 k of ransom
If you're worried about being mugged / kidnapped, don't wear a Rolex, real or fake. Weara 50 quid watch that looks like it cost 10I have a very nice Genuine Rolex but recently bought a Submariner Kermit when I was in China .A brilliant copy and would fool most .I would much sooner be out on the streets with a £50 watch on my wrist than risk been kidnapped with £10 k of ransom
I am confident that I will never be kidnapped or mugged for either of my watches. My Patek looks like a Timex, from across the street, so wouldn't attract any undesirable attention.
It is generally only the more recognizable brands/models that are faked in any great quantity or to a convincing standard.
It is generally only the more recognizable brands/models that are faked in any great quantity or to a convincing standard.
bazjude2998 said:
There have been 300 + replies to this post and I can’t be arsed to read them all so my post may have been covered but here goes.
I have a very nice Genuine Rolex but recently bought a Submariner Kermit when I was in China .A brilliant copy and would fool most .I would much sooner be out on the streets with a £50 watch on my wrist than risk been kidnapped with £10 k of ransom
your reply has not been 'covered' noI have a very nice Genuine Rolex but recently bought a Submariner Kermit when I was in China .A brilliant copy and would fool most .I would much sooner be out on the streets with a £50 watch on my wrist than risk been kidnapped with £10 k of ransom
i don't believe you have a genuine rolex
why would a 'brilliant' copy make you any less vulnerable to crime
why would anyone kidnap you for the money the watch is worth rather than cut your f
king arm off and throw you in a rivernever heard such s
te in all my life, and in this thread that's saying somethingCountdown said:
Blown2CV said:
why would a 'brilliant' copy make you any less vulnerable to crime
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I think what BazDude is suggesting is that, if somebody notices that he’s wearing a “Rolex” and he DOES get mugged, better to lose a £50 “fake” than a genuine Rolex.]
I have thought about buying a fake watch a number of times. I never have, but I think I understand why people do.
There are many pleasures that come from buying a watch......that sounds weird
let me explain.
Retail therapy...people get a buzz from buying stuff.
Getting a bargain...this is relevant to originals if you get a good price and can comfortably afford it. Also relevant to fakes if you are truly getting 98% of the watch for 2% of the cost.
Fascination with the craftsmanship of the piece. This would also be true of original and fakes. The original because it is a superbly made object and the fake because it is interesting to see how close it is to the original.
Show off factor...it's nice when someone compliments you. Whilst this seems the most obvious point, for me this is the difficult one. Whilst I feel comfortable with the idea of owning a fake watch, I don't feel comfortable with the idea of people knowing I own a fake watch. There is no way I would lie about it. I have a cheap watch that looks very much like a Panerai even though it has different branding. I don't wear it for the above reason.
Ironically, the "show off" category is the only one where the genuine watch wins, although I admit that I make sure my genuine Breitling stays under my sleeve because I don't want people to think I'm flashing it about.
In summary, I don't wear a genuine expensive watch (often) because of what people think and I don't own a fake because of what people think.
So instead my collection consists mainly of obscure vintage watches and newer Japanese watches.
There are many pleasures that come from buying a watch......that sounds weird
let me explain.Retail therapy...people get a buzz from buying stuff.
Getting a bargain...this is relevant to originals if you get a good price and can comfortably afford it. Also relevant to fakes if you are truly getting 98% of the watch for 2% of the cost.
Fascination with the craftsmanship of the piece. This would also be true of original and fakes. The original because it is a superbly made object and the fake because it is interesting to see how close it is to the original.
Show off factor...it's nice when someone compliments you. Whilst this seems the most obvious point, for me this is the difficult one. Whilst I feel comfortable with the idea of owning a fake watch, I don't feel comfortable with the idea of people knowing I own a fake watch. There is no way I would lie about it. I have a cheap watch that looks very much like a Panerai even though it has different branding. I don't wear it for the above reason.
Ironically, the "show off" category is the only one where the genuine watch wins, although I admit that I make sure my genuine Breitling stays under my sleeve because I don't want people to think I'm flashing it about.
In summary, I don't wear a genuine expensive watch (often) because of what people think and I don't own a fake because of what people think.
So instead my collection consists mainly of obscure vintage watches and newer Japanese watches.
AlexC1981 said:
Ironically, the "show off" category is the only one where the genuine watch wins, although I admit that I make sure my genuine Breitling stays under my sleeve because I don't want people to think I'm flashing it about.
In summary, I don't wear a genuine expensive watch (often) because of what people think and I don't own a fake because of what people think.
So instead my collection consists mainly of obscure vintage watches and newer Japanese watches.
To be honest, I don't think the majority of people would:In summary, I don't wear a genuine expensive watch (often) because of what people think and I don't own a fake because of what people think.
So instead my collection consists mainly of obscure vintage watches and newer Japanese watches.
- Bother looking at your watch
- Be able to identify the watch at a quick glance
- Know it's value
I see no pleasure in owning things that take fk-all effort (financial or emotional) to buy. If I want a watch, and I want to get pleasure out of its ownership, then I want to have pored over the brochures, reviews and images time and time again before finally committing the (often quite scarce) funds to purchase it. That applied to my Rolex, my Panerai, my various Seiko's (customised and non-customised) all the way down to my sub-100 quid Orient Bambino. If I could just click a finger and build a luxury watch collection for the price of one of my fairly modest Seiko's then I'd get absolutely zero satisfaction from it. No pain, no gain.
k-all effort (financial or emotional) to buy. If I want a watch, and I want to get pleasure out of its ownership, then I want to have pored over the brochures, reviews and images time and time again before finally committing the (often quite scarce) funds to purchase it. That applied to my Rolex, my Panerai, my various Seiko's (customised and non-customised) all the way down to my sub-100 quid Orient Bambino. If I could just click a finger and build a luxury watch collection for the price of one of my fairly modest Seiko's then I'd get absolutely zero satisfaction from it. No pain, no gain.Ikemi said:
To be honest, I don't think the majority of people would:
I think Panerai are so distinctive that anyone with a slight interest in watches would be able to recognise one.- Bother looking at your watch
- Be able to identify the watch at a quick glance
- Know it's value
I suppose there is some justification for wearing a fake if you have long admired a vintage piece and would like one in mint condition that you could wear everyday without worrying about damaging it. Even then though, a company like Steinhart will have something similar available if it is a popular design.
AlexC1981 said:
I think Panerai are so distinctive that anyone with a slight interest in watches would be able to recognise one.
I suppose there is some justification for wearing a fake if you have long admired a vintage piece and would like one in mint condition that you could wear everyday without worrying about damaging it. Even then though, a company like Steinhart will have something similar available if it is a popular design.
I suppose there is some justification for wearing a fake if you have long admired a vintage piece and would like one in mint condition that you could wear everyday without worrying about damaging it. Even then though, a company like Steinhart will have something similar available if it is a popular design.
As I said before, there's plenty of good "homages" of most timepieces. That way you can enjoy the design you like without trying to fool anyone.
scoopdydoo said:
AlexC1981 said:
Getting a bargain...this is relevant to originals if you get a good price and can comfortably afford it. Also relevant to fakes if you are truly getting 98% of the watch for 2% of the cost.
But you only ever get 0% of the watch for 2% of the cost when you buy a fakeFound a rolex on the pavement outside tiffany,s in new york a few years back ,
got rather excited picked it up looked around no one having a hissy fit , so put it in my pocket,
it was very good but did think it was a fake the bracelet was too cheap feeling , not having owned a rolex the back of it did not look to real,green circular paper stamp on it, I took it to the local jeweler when got home , yes very good he said but not a 10k watch, I leave it on my bedside table when i go away now,hoping if im ever burgled he will say result and just clear off with it, and not go looking for my hidden f1 tag and vintage omega
ps would never buy a fake, would rather have my work horse pulsar, seiko , and casio ,
got rather excited picked it up looked around no one having a hissy fit , so put it in my pocket,
it was very good but did think it was a fake the bracelet was too cheap feeling , not having owned a rolex the back of it did not look to real,green circular paper stamp on it, I took it to the local jeweler when got home , yes very good he said but not a 10k watch, I leave it on my bedside table when i go away now,hoping if im ever burgled he will say result and just clear off with it, and not go looking for my hidden f1 tag and vintage omega
ps would never buy a fake, would rather have my work horse pulsar, seiko , and casio , 
alfa phil said:
Found a rolex on the pavement outside tiffany,s in new york a few years back ,
got rather excited picked it up looked around no one having a hissy fit , so put it in my pocket,
it was very good but did think it was a fake the bracelet was too cheap feeling , not having owned a rolex the back of it did not look to real,green circular paper stamp on it, I took it to the local jeweler when got home , yes very good he said but not a 10k watch, I leave it on my bedside table when i go away now,hoping if im ever burgled he will say result and just clear off with it, and not go looking for my hidden f1 tag and vintage omega ps would never buy a fake, would rather have my work horse pulsar, seiko , and casio ,
Did you not think to hand it in anywhere? got rather excited picked it up looked around no one having a hissy fit , so put it in my pocket,
it was very good but did think it was a fake the bracelet was too cheap feeling , not having owned a rolex the back of it did not look to real,green circular paper stamp on it, I took it to the local jeweler when got home , yes very good he said but not a 10k watch, I leave it on my bedside table when i go away now,hoping if im ever burgled he will say result and just clear off with it, and not go looking for my hidden f1 tag and vintage omega
ps would never buy a fake, would rather have my work horse pulsar, seiko , and casio , Edited by Dolf Stoppard on Sunday 27th May 21:59
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