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red_slr said:
He is not a watch person, at all. He will appreciate the engineering though, and it will be used to tell the time and that's it . A Rolex will just end up locked in a drawer and will never see the light of day. The Seiko is looking perfect so going to investigate that route.
Then I would suggest that spending £8-10,000 on a watch is a total waste of money. Get him a Sinn divers watch which is fantastically engineered for a couple of thousand, and spend the rest on something he's actually interested in.Edited by cbmotorsport on Thursday 20th September 11:12
SturdyHSV said:
AlexC1981 said:
...only 50m waterproof so not much more than splash proof really...
Where does this come from? I mean, I can understand dodgy brands putting a low rating on stuff because they managed to find one from a batch that passed the testing, but if JLC say it's 50m water resistant, why wouldn't it be resistant to 5ATM water pressure, which it would need to be to be certified as such?I know it's widely accepted that 50m means you can dare to wear it in the rain etc. but really, why...? Unless you're actually deep sea diving you're unlikely to even get to 50m in the sea, where the watch would still be fine, even if you're flailing your arms (another myth, it makes almost no difference).
I have two 50m watches, I've worn both to swim in. I wear a watch 24/7 so they've survived baths / showers regularly, no issues at all for over 10 years...
Don't get me wrong, if I was wearing that JLC I wouldn't be taking it swimming (it just wouldn't seem right for such a lovely thing!), but to say it's barely more than splash proof when you could comfortably go to the industry standard depth for recreational scuba divers (39m...) in it does seem a bit excessive
Maybe I should have just started a new thread, although I would imagine it's been done to death
Water resistance ratings, as you say, have been done to death in many forums. It's mainly about the sealing at the crown, with single seals generally being 30 or 50 m (3 or 5 ATM) rated and double seals being 100 m+ (10 ATM+). At the cheaper end, then push on backs rather than screw on ones will also lead to a low water resistance. 'Proper' swimming or diving watches will have a screw down back and a screw down crown so that with both done up tightly you've removed the leak paths and switched to collapse pressure on the glass or sapphire for depth rating.
Hot showers or baths are way more dangerous to a watch than swimming! Sudden hot water immersion expands metal and as the crown is a quicker heat sink than the case ('cause it's smaller), it'll expand a touch quicker. Then add in the low surface tension of soapy water that makes it more slippery and easier to get past seals and you can see that without a screw down crown a hot bath is always a risk.
All said and done though, my own non-diving rated watch (floating rather than screw down crown for better shock resistance) spend 8 hours in the sea last week; down to 16 m depth and scrabbling around in the silt and sand at the bottom.
https://marinechronometer.co.uk/index.php/news
Lorne said:
SturdyHSV said:
AlexC1981 said:
...only 50m waterproof so not much more than splash proof really...
Where does this come from? I mean, I can understand dodgy brands putting a low rating on stuff because they managed to find one from a batch that passed the testing, but if JLC say it's 50m water resistant, why wouldn't it be resistant to 5ATM water pressure, which it would need to be to be certified as such?I know it's widely accepted that 50m means you can dare to wear it in the rain etc. but really, why...? Unless you're actually deep sea diving you're unlikely to even get to 50m in the sea, where the watch would still be fine, even if you're flailing your arms (another myth, it makes almost no difference).
I have two 50m watches, I've worn both to swim in. I wear a watch 24/7 so they've survived baths / showers regularly, no issues at all for over 10 years...
Don't get me wrong, if I was wearing that JLC I wouldn't be taking it swimming (it just wouldn't seem right for such a lovely thing!), but to say it's barely more than splash proof when you could comfortably go to the industry standard depth for recreational scuba divers (39m...) in it does seem a bit excessive
Maybe I should have just started a new thread, although I would imagine it's been done to death
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