Genuine fake Rolex. Includes box & papers!

Genuine fake Rolex. Includes box & papers!

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liner33

7,493 posts

147 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Foliage said:
Because those people misrepresent themselves, they wear a fake rolex, drive a 15yo audi with a private plate, everything about them is fake, they want to be something but fail to grasp how to do it.

Also paying £80 for a fake rolex is hilarious, im wearing a sub homage, you paid £70 extra for the fake name... That's £70 you could have put towards buying a real rolex.



Edited by Foliage on Tuesday 27th November 11:15
and yet I struggle to understand why YOU would care ? Why do you really care what car someone drives or what watch they wear ?

GT03ROB

7,820 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Foliage said:
liner33 said:
I don't understand why people get so upset though if someone wants to buy a fake and are aware that it is so be it.
Because those people misrepresent themselves, they wear a fake rolex, drive a 15yo audi with a private plate, everything about them is fake, they want to be something but fail to grasp how to do it.

Also paying £80 for a fake rolex is hilarious, im wearing a sub homage, you paid £70 extra for the fake name... That's £70 you could have put towards buying a real rolex.

Edited by Foliage on Tuesday 27th November 11:15
Yet buying a Rolex on credit & brand new audi on PCP isn't fake while living at home with mum & dad?? I'd call that just as fake.

The vast majority buy rolex to be seen as something. Its about an image. The real rolex wearers are no more real than the fake rolex wearers both can be fake. One just spend a lot more money being it.

Really got no problem with people wearing fakes.

BrabusMog

14,609 posts

131 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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GT03ROB said:
Foliage said:
liner33 said:
I don't understand why people get so upset though if someone wants to buy a fake and are aware that it is so be it.
Because those people misrepresent themselves, they wear a fake rolex, drive a 15yo audi with a private plate, everything about them is fake, they want to be something but fail to grasp how to do it.

Also paying £80 for a fake rolex is hilarious, im wearing a sub homage, you paid £70 extra for the fake name... That's £70 you could have put towards buying a real rolex.

Edited by Foliage on Tuesday 27th November 11:15
Yet buying a Rolex on credit & brand new audi on PCP isn't fake while living at home with mum & dad?? I'd call that just as fake.

The vast majority buy rolex to be seen as something. Its about an image. The real rolex wearers are no more real than the fake rolex wearers both can be fake. One just spend a lot more money being it.

Really got no problem with people wearing fakes.
I have to agree with this. One of my best friends is obsessed with brands, be it watches, clothes, shoes etc. Don't get me wrong, I like expensive things, but I will also buy clothes in places like Zara and Uniqlo and I'll buy a Seiko if I like the look of it. I was wearing a branded top underneath a non branded jumper the other day and he asked me why I would do that as nobody could see what I was wearing underneath! Odd behaviour, but everyone is different.

Countdown

24,351 posts

141 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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GT03ROB said:
Yet buying a Rolex on credit & brand new audi on PCP isn't fake while living at home with mum & dad?? I'd call that just as fake.

The vast majority buy rolex to be seen as something. Its about an image. The real rolex wearers are no more real than the fake rolex wearers both can be fake. One just spend a lot more money being it.

Really got no problem with people wearing fakes.
Completely agree.

I think the resentment is due to snobbery and perceiving others as benefiting from the "Rolex Owner" image without having paid the "Rolex Owner" price.

davek_964

5,889 posts

120 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Foliage said:
Because those people misrepresent themselves, they wear a fake rolex, drive a 15yo audi with a private plate, everything about them is fake, they want to be something but fail to grasp how to do it.
Oh dear...... I drive a 17 year old car with a private plate. Does it help that it's not an Audi?

Oz83

399 posts

84 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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BrabusMog said:
I have to agree with this. One of my best friends is obsessed with brands, be it watches, clothes, shoes etc. Don't get me wrong, I like expensive things, but I will also buy clothes in places like Zara and Uniqlo and I'll buy a Seiko if I like the look of it. I was wearing a branded top underneath a non branded jumper the other day and he asked me why I would do that as nobody could see what I was wearing underneath! Odd behaviour, but everyone is different.
I agree but I would say it really depends what you do and the circles you are in. Many people will notice a Rolex or a well cut suit. Less people will know what a Patek is and even less people will be able to tell if you are wearing a Kiton sports coat. Wearing your wealth can be important and influential for some people, and it can open doors and start conversations.

A lot of people on here probably spend a disproportionate amount of money on a second car or a weekend toy. For those who drive a Ferrari/Lambo etc.- I'll bet they have been asked about their car more times than someone who drives a 1.4lite Focus.

On the other hand if you live at home with your mum and dad and spend every penny you earn (or can get on credit) on designer clothes just so you can show off to your mates or impress girls, then you need a good talking to.

kingkongsfinger

150 posts

116 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Just looked up "Kiton sports coat" as I have never heard of them, OMFG how much !!!


guindilias

2,655 posts

65 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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And they are bloody ugly...
I, as I have said, buy a half-decent fake to see if I'm still going to like it after spending thousands on the real thing. I see nothing wrong with that - would you buy a car (even a 17 year old Audi) without a test drive?
Watches for me are much the same. I want to know if it is too big, too small, too garish, etc. So, I bought a fake Seadweller for buttons. Liked the look, liked the way it worked - could have bought a $500 Noob replica, but I wanted the real thing. So I bought it.
I did the same with my IWC Annual Date. Buy the fake, if you like it, buy the real one.
I'm looking for an Omega Seamaster pro now - and I'll buy the cheapest fake I can find, and compare it at the watch shop. If I like it, I'll buy the real one.
If anyone ever recognises my replicas as a Rolex, Omega, or IWC, I'll happily tell them it's a fake.
TBH, some of them are better or equal quality to the real thing. My ancient (genuine) Air King Date looks like a fake to a Rolex buff - I had the dial changed from champagne to blue. Still have the original dial, the fake dial cost me $100 including installation. And I like it better that way, I wear it a lot - it was inherited from my late father.
I don't see a lot wrong with replicas, Unless you are trying to impress people with your £70 watch. And if you are trying to impress people even with your £11k watch - well, you need to sort it out. It's just a nice watch, it can't improve your looks or personality. I'm a Mechanical design Engineer and can happily strip my SeaDweller from scratch, and build it back up again (given access to my Uncle's workshop!). It's a great watch. well built, takes all the abuse I give it.

jakesmith

4,743 posts

116 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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I totally see the point of buying a replica to test drive the real thing and see if you like the look of it
The thing about having a replica of one you own but want a replica in case you going traveling or out somewhere & don't want to risk losing it or theft seems acceptable
Any other use of replicas I think is pointless - I bought a fake Seamaster in Thailand aged 22 and wore it for a few months then chucked it. Didn't make me feel good wearing it.
My lifetime ambition is an AP Royal Oak and I'm many years away from one but when I get one I want to feel a sense of accomplishment from having achieved the ability to buy something like that, and feel great about wearing something of such quality
I don't rate the ability to impress people as a reasonable justification for buying something and impressing someone with a fake is even more riduculous for insecure people

The fake Ferarri thing is very different though, and for me doesn't work as an analogy as people like to build replica cars as a hobby, something fun to do, they are not convincing and are not in my opinion made to trick people, and most people building a replica car could never afford the real thing where as a Rolex or IWC or Omega is actually achievable for far more

Fallingup

796 posts

43 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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So you buy a replica to see how it looks and feels, then if you like it, you buy the real thing. Sorry but I think that's bks. I've no doubt that there will be someone who will do this but I suspect this is very much the exception. So consider the difference between a person who buys a real watch to show off or a replica to show of. Firstly the real watch owner is a tt and secondly the fake watch owner is an even bigger tt. Ah! You say. But you have posted pictures on this forum of an expensive watch to show off. Can't argue with that and I wish I hadn't. Because all it achieves is satisfaction by me and penis envy by others. Am I wrong?

Edited by Fallingup on Wednesday 28th November 19:41

Barchettaman

2,940 posts

77 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Fallingup said:
So you buy a replica to see how it looks and feels, then if you like it, you buy the real thing. Sorry but I think that's bks. I've no doubt that there will be someone who will do this but I suspect this is very much the exception. So consider the difference between a person who buys a real watch to show off or a replica to show of. Firstly the real watch owner is a tt and secondly the fake watch owner is an even bigger tt. Ah! You say. But you have posted pictures on this forum of an expensive watch to show off. Can't argue with that and I wish I hadn't. Because all it achieves is satisfaction by me and penis envy by others. Am I wrong?

Edited by Fallingup on Wednesday 28th November 19:41
I’d agree that that is probably what happens, but there are guys on here that have done exactly that, so there are exceptions to the rule.

Having had a good look and a think about the current Rolex line, it seems that their lack of innovation over the years - for good reasons, mind you - leaves a nice gap in the market for people like Ward and Steinhart who are producing a genuine quality product, in many cases with innovation and evolution, for a fraction of the cost.

guindilias

2,655 posts

65 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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It's not bocensoredllocks - that's what I do.
I like watches, even brands that your average Joe will never have heard of - like an IWC annual calender. I rarely wear it, because it looks too big on me. But I see it as an iconic watch. I also own a £7 Casio - again, I rarely wear it because I prefer analogue dials. But it has become iconic, as the "Isis watch".
I have a Sea Dweller (because I liked it), I have a green bezelled Sub (probably the best known Rolex - subs have a huge history, and as such are what people think of when they think "Rolex" - iconic), I have an Omega Seamaster, which again became an icon after the James Bond link, and I have an inherited Air King Date - which is small, unobtrusive, and nobody would recognise it as a Rolex because it is about the least "Glitzy" watch Rolex made - and my late father wore it all his life, I will probably wear it all my life. Hasn't been serviced in 20 years at least, loses about 2-3 minutes a day, but is still waterproof and works.
All the "recent" Rolexes were bought second hand, and before the great "Famine of Stainless Sports watches"

I don't recall posting pictures of any of my watches on the forum - If I have, can you post the link?

I'd happily post them, but that would just be to attract "Penis Envy", wouldn't it? rolleyes

Fallingup

796 posts

43 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Barchettaman said:
I’d agree that that is probably what happens, but there are guys on here that have done exactly that, so there are exceptions to the rule.

Having had a good look and a think about the current Rolex line, it seems that their lack of innovation over the years - for good reasons, mind you - leaves a nice gap in the market for people like Ward and Steinhart who are producing a genuine quality product, in many cases with innovation and evolution, for a fraction of the cost.
I'm sure there are guys on here who have done that but they are not the norm. You only have to look at the wrists of people coming back from trips to Tenerife to see that. It's arguable but I don't put steinharts down as replicas. They are excellent watches.

guindilias

2,655 posts

65 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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I didn't say it was the norm, I said it was me.
Oh, forgot to mention my Montblanc Profile XL, by the way - given to me as a gift by a grateful friend.

So where was this post where I posted pics of my "expensive watch" - or have you got me completely confused with someone else?

Fallingup

796 posts

43 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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guindilias said:
It's not bocensoredllocks - that's what I do.
I like watches, even brands that your average Joe will never have heard of - like an IWC annual calender. I rarely wear it, because it looks too big on me. But I see it as an iconic watch. I also own a £7 Casio - again, I rarely wear it because I prefer analogue dials. But it has become iconic, as the "Isis watch".
I have a Sea Dweller (because I liked it), I have a green bezelled Sub (probably the best known Rolex - subs have a huge history, and as such are what people think of when they think "Rolex" - iconic), I have an Omega Seamaster, which again became an icon after the James Bond link, and I have an inherited Air King Date - which is small, unobtrusive, and nobody would recognise it as a Rolex because it is about the least "Glitzy" watch Rolex made - and my late father wore it all his life, I will probably wear it all my life. Hasn't been serviced in 20 years at least, loses about 2-3 minutes a day, but is still waterproof and works.
All the "recent" Rolexes were bought second hand, and before the great "Famine of Stainless Sports watches"

I don't recall posting pictures of any of my watches on the forum - If I have, can you post the link?

I'd happily post them, but that would just be to attract "Penis Envy", wouldn't it? rolleyes
Well here's the problem. A watch forum without pictures of expensive watches would be dull. But if you do post a picture then it can be seen as showing off. What's the best thing to do. I'm asking this with a slight tongue in cheek I hope you realise. But the point is, why would you post a picture of something you own if it wasn't to show of. If that's the case then what makes you different from someone who wears a fake watch to show off.

Edited by Fallingup on Wednesday 28th November 20:42

guindilias

2,655 posts

65 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Well here's the problem - you basically accused me of showing off, of wearing fake watches and not owning any genuine models, posting pictures of expensive watches I don't own (or are fakes) and announcing that what I posted was " bolcensoredlocks ". With absolutely no foundation.
Care to take that back?

guindilias

2,655 posts

65 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Oh, and maybe link the picture(s?) I apparently posted?

guindilias

2,655 posts

65 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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And perhaps stop editing your posts to make them less accusatory (is that a word? It is now).

Fallingup

796 posts

43 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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guindilias said:
Well here's the problem - you basically accused me of showing off, of wearing fake watches and not owning any genuine models, posting pictures of expensive watches I don't own (or are fakes) and announcing that what I posted was " bolcensoredlocks ". With absolutely no foundation.
Care to take that back?
I'm not accusing you of anything. Are you some kind of nutter. I don't care what you own or what you care to paste pictures of. It was a a genuine thought. If it upsets you then I'm sorry.



guindilias

2,655 posts

65 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Fallingup said:
So you buy a replica to see how it looks and feels, then if you like it, you buy the real thing. Sorry but I think that's bks. I've no doubt that there will be someone who will do this but I suspect this is very much the exception. So consider the difference between a person who buys a real watch to show off or a replica to show of. Firstly the real watch owner is a tt and secondly the fake watch owner is an even bigger tt. Ah! You say. But you have posted pictures on this forum of an expensive watch to show off. Can't argue with that and I wish I hadn't. Because all it achieves is satisfaction by me and penis envy by others. Am I wrong?

Edited by Fallingup on Wednesday 28th November 19:41
No, it doesn't upset me in the least - I just don't particularly enjoy being accused of talking bollcensoredox .
I'm not pretending to be rich, I live in a 3-bed semi that looks like it is about to fall down, and drive a 1998 Jeep GC. And I like watches. It's a hobby, albeit an expensive one. But I enjoy it, and that's what life is about for me - enjoying things and indulging, when you can afford to..
Otherwise why be alive at all?
Don't throw me the noose just yet, I still want a Speedmaster.