Wrist Check - 2019
Discussion
Snubs said:
My dad has left his JLC Reverso with me this week. So during daytime i'll be wearing:
Then after dark:
Really like these for their quirkiness... maybe a silly question, but am I correct to assume a single movement driving both sides through some clever built in and bespoke complication? They seem too thin for the extra functionality to be an add-on module like a chronograph can be to a Valjoux/ETA Then after dark:
Pupp said:
Really like these for their quirkiness... maybe a silly question, but am I correct to assume a single movement driving both sides through some clever built in and bespoke complication? They seem too thin for the extra functionality to be an add-on module like a chronograph can be to a Valjoux/ETA
JLC always make their own movements, no? I think the movement int he Reverso has been around for ever, and has complications added over time. leglessAlex said:
JLC always make their own movements, no? I think the movement int he Reverso has been around for ever, and has complications added over time.
Ok, I wasn't thinking JLC used a bought in movement (just mentioned that example as one I'm familiar with) but was wondering whether it was specific to the Reverso of a 'stock' in-house model adapted for the purpose. 
Pupp said:
leglessAlex said:
JLC always make their own movements, no? I think the movement int he Reverso has been around for ever, and has complications added over time.
Ok, I wasn't thinking JLC used a bought in movement (just mentioned that example as one I'm familiar with) but was wondering whether it was specific to the Reverso of a 'stock' in-house model adapted for the purpose. 
Pupp said:
Really like these for their quirkiness... maybe a silly question, but am I correct to assume a single movement driving both sides through some clever built in and bespoke complication? They seem too thin for the extra functionality to be an add-on module like a chronograph can be to a Valjoux/ETA
It uses the JLC caliber 854A/2, which is unique to the Reverso. Partly, i would have thought, because the plates are cut to fit the case as can be seen here: https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/eu/en/watches/rev...
Doublechecking on Watchbase, the movement only features in various Reverso's:
https://watchbase.com/jaeger-lecoultre/caliber/854...
As you say, it's a single movement driving both sides. Consequently both sides always display the same time on the main face, however you can see there's a little 'travel time' complication at the bottom on the dark face that can be used for a different timezone. When you pop the case out to flip between sides, there's a sliding button on the top for bumping the travel time forward in one hour increments.
It's a very comfortable watch to wear, a terrific looking thing and the novelty of the reverso function doesn't wear off quickly. The only real downside i've found is that it doesn't have stop/hacking seconds. So despite the accuracy of the movement, they haven't given you a simple way of setting the time accurately that can be found in considerably cheaper watches. Odd, in my opinion.
Snubs said:
The only real downside i've found is that it doesn't have stop/hacking seconds. So despite the accuracy of the movement, they haven't given you a simple way of setting the time accurately that can be found in considerably cheaper watches. Odd, in my opinion.
I would try not to let that frustrate you too much - there are Patek's, Breguet's and numerous others that don't hack.The Reverso is lovely.... I found mine quite costly - and frequent - to service.
Snubs said:
Pupp said:
Really like these for their quirkiness... maybe a silly question, but am I correct to assume a single movement driving both sides through some clever built in and bespoke complication? They seem too thin for the extra functionality to be an add-on module like a chronograph can be to a Valjoux/ETA
It uses the JLC caliber 854A/2, which is unique to the Reverso. Partly, i would have thought, because the plates are cut to fit the case as can be seen here: https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/eu/en/watches/rev...
Doublechecking on Watchbase, the movement only features in various Reverso's:
https://watchbase.com/jaeger-lecoultre/caliber/854...
As you say, it's a single movement driving both sides. Consequently both sides always display the same time on the main face, however you can see there's a little 'travel time' complication at the bottom on the dark face that can be used for a different timezone. When you pop the case out to flip between sides, there's a sliding button on the top for bumping the travel time forward in one hour increments.
It's a very comfortable watch to wear, a terrific looking thing and the novelty of the reverso function doesn't wear off quickly. The only real downside i've found is that it doesn't have stop/hacking seconds. So despite the accuracy of the movement, they haven't given you a simple way of setting the time accurately that can be found in considerably cheaper watches. Odd, in my opinion.
Edited by Skyman on Tuesday 5th November 20:38
Skyman said:
That penultimate paragraph is not quite right. Each side of the watch can indeed show a different hour on the dial. The reverse, black dial has a sub-dial which shows whether the travel time is diurnal or nocturnal The sliding button on the top of the case allows you to advance the black dial’s hour hand by one hour intervals so as to show local or travel time. I bought mine yesterday!
So it does! I'd read the online instruction manual to seehow it works but hadn't actually pushed the sliding button so had misunderstood it. 
Greendubber said:
Fantastic watches, and really quite remarkable value for money. I don’t think there’s anything to touch them anywhere near their price. I’ve had the non ceramic for a while. I’m currently saving for one of the new Seamasters but am wondering if the new full ceramic Hydroconquest might be a better shout.
funinhounslow said:
Greendubber said:
Fantastic watches, and really quite remarkable value for money. I don’t think there’s anything to touch them anywhere near their price. I’ve had the non ceramic for a while. I’m currently saving for one of the new Seamasters but am wondering if the new full ceramic Hydroconquest might be a better shout.
I'm liking a lot of the Longines Heritage pieces at the moment..
I've stopped buying "affordable" watches while I save for high end stuff , I think its a waste of money really . I buy cheap chinese stuff to see how I really like that style of watch before saving hard for nicer pieces. The watches I have regretted buying are mostly £300-£800 ones, too much money for a beater and not enough to be a really "nice" watch.
I do see the argument for buying features though, but when you can get a reasonable automatic with sapphire and ceramic bezel for £50 from China I'm not sure I'm convinced by these mid range watches
I do see the argument for buying features though, but when you can get a reasonable automatic with sapphire and ceramic bezel for £50 from China I'm not sure I'm convinced by these mid range watches
funinhounslow said:
Fantastic watches, and really quite remarkable value for money. I don’t think there’s anything to touch them anywhere near their price.
I’ve had the non ceramic for a while. I’m currently saving for one of the new Seamasters but am wondering if the new full ceramic Hydroconquest might be a better shout.
I had a very close look at them and a good think, but in the end concluded that they were a bit too chunky for me. I’ve had the non ceramic for a while. I’m currently saving for one of the new Seamasters but am wondering if the new full ceramic Hydroconquest might be a better shout.
I went with a 95 Omega SMP in the end...
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