Omega 321 Movement - Announcement
Discussion
GC8 said:
At what price? At £1,650 they were a reasonable buy. At todays comedy prices I will pass, and I own a Speedy, so Im far from anti-brand.
I got mine with a display back and hesalite face years ago for £900. 
I’d expect this new one to be made from Apollo parts and come with a nato made from Armstrong’s own spacesuit.
Actually at this price it should be Armstrong’s own watch.
El stovey said:
Actually at this price it should be Armstrong’s own watch.
Armstrong’s watch (the NASA steel one, not the presentation gold one) never made it to the moon. The electronic timer on board the command module malfunctioned, so Armstrong left his Speedy as a backup to Collins’.Isn't the Platinum one some kind of extremely limited edition (100 examples rings a bell)?
Makes (a little) more sense on that basis.
Is the 321 movement any better than the current movement (1861?) or is this just all about nostalgia?
I imagine any Steel 321 will be pretty expensive compared to the 'regular' model.
M
Makes (a little) more sense on that basis.
Is the 321 movement any better than the current movement (1861?) or is this just all about nostalgia?
I imagine any Steel 321 will be pretty expensive compared to the 'regular' model.
M
marcosgt said:
Isn't the Platinum one some kind of extremely limited edition (100 examples rings a bell)?
Makes more sense on that basis.
Is the 321 movement any better than the current movement (1861?) or is this just all about nostalgia?
I imagine any Steel 321 will be pretty expensive compared to the 'regular' model.
M
It’s just a numbers thing. Makes more sense on that basis.
Is the 321 movement any better than the current movement (1861?) or is this just all about nostalgia?
I imagine any Steel 321 will be pretty expensive compared to the 'regular' model.
M
The 321 is no better than an (1)861 it’s just rarer, both were worn by Apollo astronauts.
The 861 has some rhodium plated parts whilst the 321 has some copper, apparently the 861 is easier to produce and service.
Generally people think the 321 is better looking, which unless you have a display back, isn’t really relevant.
marcosgt said:
Isn't the Platinum one some kind of extremely limited edition (100 examples rings a bell)?
Makes (a little) more sense on that basis.
Is the 321 movement any better than the current movement (1861?) or is this just all about nostalgia?
I imagine any Steel 321 will be pretty expensive compared to the 'regular' model.
M
No, the Pt version is not limited.Makes (a little) more sense on that basis.
Is the 321 movement any better than the current movement (1861?) or is this just all about nostalgia?
I imagine any Steel 321 will be pretty expensive compared to the 'regular' model.
M
The 321 movement is better than the 1861 or 1863 movement if the things that are different about it are better in your opinion. Those most significant of those things is the column wheel, vs cam based, switching mechanism for the chronograph functions imo.
The steel 321 will cost more than the regular model for sure. I would suggest £15k to £18k but Omega are clueless when it comes to pricing strategy so who knows?
Wills2 said:
Apparently they can only make 2000 movements a year with the resource they have put on it, I guess that will impact the kinds of watches they make, as they will want to maximise the profit per unit hence this is in PM.
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That's like saying I can only make one sandwich a day, if I tie both of my hands behind my back and have to make the sandwich underwater..
ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
Wills2 said:
Apparently they can only make 2000 movements a year with the resource they have put on it, I guess that will impact the kinds of watches they make, as they will want to maximise the profit per unit hence this is in PM.
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That's like saying I can only make one sandwich a day, if I tie both of my hands behind my back and have to make the sandwich underwater..
FFS....
Wills2 said:
Yes it's exactly like that.
FFS....
It's identical. It's artifical scarcity driven by nothing other than a decision to create scarcity.FFS....
They could churn out thousands of these movements with no issues at all. It's not technically challenging for them, there's nothing influencing scarcity other than their decision just not to make many.
Column wheel operation is nicer, but I’ve got a column wheel 7750 - it’s easily modified.
There isn’t anything special about the Cal.321 and IP rights are in the public domain, so this won’t cost much more than a 7734 or similar.
Omega are greedy, but even by their standards this takes the piss.
There isn’t anything special about the Cal.321 and IP rights are in the public domain, so this won’t cost much more than a 7734 or similar.
Omega are greedy, but even by their standards this takes the piss.
Squadrone Rosso said:
Stunning. Any GBP prices yet?
£11,300. https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watches/speedma...
I've been on my AD's list for a while now, for something unusual this year and he mentioned this one a couple of months ago.
Would anyone outside the Omega circle even care about this watch, a lot of the watches all look the same? I guess you need to be a genuine enthusiast to want to buy one. I have a Speedy 57, so not a total novice to the brand, but it still seems steep to me.
Would anyone outside the Omega circle even care about this watch, a lot of the watches all look the same? I guess you need to be a genuine enthusiast to want to buy one. I have a Speedy 57, so not a total novice to the brand, but it still seems steep to me.
seadragon said:
I've been on my AD's list for a while now, for something unusual this year and he mentioned this one a couple of months ago.
Would anyone outside the Omega circle even care about this watch, a lot of the watches all look the same? I guess you need to be a genuine enthusiast to want to buy one. I have a Speedy 57, so not a total novice to the brand, but it still seems steep to me.
Me too, especially when you look at all the other speedy limited editions. Would anyone outside the Omega circle even care about this watch, a lot of the watches all look the same? I guess you need to be a genuine enthusiast to want to buy one. I have a Speedy 57, so not a total novice to the brand, but it still seems steep to me.
This one is nice though and I’d like one but not at that price, it’s still a copy (reissue) of an older watch. To me it’s a bit like, the other reissues that tag did with the Monaco and Carrera and omega have been doing with speed master mark 2 etc, just with a reissued movement also.
I do like it though.
seadragon said:
I've been on my AD's list for a while now, for something unusual this year and he mentioned this one a couple of months ago.
Would anyone outside the Omega circle even care about this watch, a lot of the watches all look the same? I guess you need to be a genuine enthusiast to want to buy one. I have a Speedy 57, so not a total novice to the brand, but it still seems steep to me.
Well since my last message, I have decided to get myself on the waiting list with my AD haha Would anyone outside the Omega circle even care about this watch, a lot of the watches all look the same? I guess you need to be a genuine enthusiast to want to buy one. I have a Speedy 57, so not a total novice to the brand, but it still seems steep to me.
He says the team making this watch is very small (in numbers, not height :-) ), so production numbers low. He reckons he might only be able to source 1-2/year (here in the UK).
It's not cheap, but I guess demand will be high, so pays to get in early if you can.
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