Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has
Discussion
CharlesdeGaulle said:
FreeLitres said:
Too flash for me. 
Wondering why its only 1000 fsw, my 46 year old Sea Dweller is 2000 fsw, and as I mentioned previously, cost £200 new when I bought in around 78.
Even 2000 fsw is laughable, no diver can work at that depths.
Edited by Vipers on Sunday 3rd March 23:24
Longy00000 said:
It's not just the size of the numbers though, look at the size of the white box displaying the numbers it is def smaller than it should be this suggesting ot needs further I vestigation as to why.
My guess would be a non-standard ( cheap) crystal having been used to replace an expensive broken one
Bingo. My guess would be a non-standard ( cheap) crystal having been used to replace an expensive broken one
Vipers said:
Just doesnt look right in that colour, black was excellent, then again people do not buy these watches to wear them when then go diving these days, just a fashion job, and 1000 fsw, only offshore saturation divers work down to these depths.
Wondering why its only 1000 fsw, my 46 year old Sea Dweller is 2000 fsw, and as I mentioned previously, cost £200 new when I bought in around 78.
Even 2000 fsw is laughable, no diver can work at that depths.
2000ft water resistance doesn’t actually mean it can be worn at that depth though. In any case divers wear dive computers on their wrists these days not analogue watches. Wondering why its only 1000 fsw, my 46 year old Sea Dweller is 2000 fsw, and as I mentioned previously, cost £200 new when I bought in around 78.
Even 2000 fsw is laughable, no diver can work at that depths.
Edited by Vipers on Sunday 3rd March 23:24
sandman77 said:
2000ft water resistance doesn’t actually mean it can be worn at that depth though. In any case divers wear dive computers on their wrists these days not analogue watches.
It does mean it can be worn at that depth.On the depth rating - the trade off is the Submariner has always been a smaller watch than its contemporary Sea Dweller, which has probably contributed to its greater commercial appeal.
That sub doesn't look right to me.
gregs656 said:
On the depth rating - the trade off is the Submariner has always been a smaller watch than its contemporary Sea Dweller, which has probably contributed to its greater commercial appeal.
Me, on the left If I succeed in getting a Deep Sea, middle guy has a Sea Dweller and the little guy has a Submariner 
sandman77 said:
Vipers said:
Just doesnt look right in that colour, black was excellent, then again people do not buy these watches to wear them when then go diving these days, just a fashion job, and 1000 fsw, only offshore saturation divers work down to these depths.
Wondering why its only 1000 fsw, my 46 year old Sea Dweller is 2000 fsw, and as I mentioned previously, cost £200 new when I bought in around 78.
Even 2000 fsw is laughable, no diver can work at that depths.
2000ft water resistance doesn’t actually mean it can be worn at that depth though. In any case divers wear dive computers on their wrists these days not analogue watches. Wondering why its only 1000 fsw, my 46 year old Sea Dweller is 2000 fsw, and as I mentioned previously, cost £200 new when I bought in around 78.
Even 2000 fsw is laughable, no diver can work at that depths.
Edited by Vipers on Sunday 3rd March 23:24
What I have put in bold, yes it does, but max depth commercial divers go to is around 300 msw, and most dont wear their watch when actually in the water, the Rolex explained why they say water resistant and not waterproof. But are usually stay dry to the depth shown, but with age the “O” ring on the wonder can deteriorate andmay leak, all explained if you google it.
Edited by Vipers on Monday 4th March 21:48
Edited by Vipers on Monday 4th March 23:09
ZesPak said:
It really doesn't.
It basically means that it could survive that pressure, in laboratory conditions, once.
Don't ever take a 5m depth rated watch to a swimming pool, even if the pool is only 2m deep.
The standard that Rolex (and all the reputable brands) test to is far beyond that. It basically means that it could survive that pressure, in laboratory conditions, once.
Don't ever take a 5m depth rated watch to a swimming pool, even if the pool is only 2m deep.
ZesPak said:
gregs656 said:
It does mean it can be worn at that depth.
It really doesn't.It basically means that it could survive that pressure, in laboratory conditions, once.
Don't ever take a 5m depth rated watch to a swimming pool, even if the pool is only 2m deep.
Somewhere on the Divers Watch section of the WatchUSeek forum there's a whole thread dedicated to (IIRC) a 'splashproof' casio quartz being taken diving to good depths. lol
RSTurboPaul said:
Is this the discussion around static pressure vs movement-induced pressure changes?
Somewhere on the Divers Watch section of the WatchUSeek forum there's a whole thread dedicated to (IIRC) a 'splashproof' casio quartz being taken diving to good depths. lol
There is loads of good info out there but the same stuff gets posted all the time anyway.Somewhere on the Divers Watch section of the WatchUSeek forum there's a whole thread dedicated to (IIRC) a 'splashproof' casio quartz being taken diving to good depths. lol
gregs656 said:
It does mean it can be worn at that depth.
Having now researched it further, I see that different manufacturers have different standards and recommendations but it certainly appears that both Rolex and Omega at least can safely be worn to the depth stated in the dial. https://www.rolex.com/watchmaking/manufactory/wate...
https://www.omegawatches.com/fileadmin/Customer_Se...
Even so, I’m still not sure I would wear my Speedmaster pro when swimming.
gregs656 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Is this the discussion around static pressure vs movement-induced pressure changes?
Somewhere on the Divers Watch section of the WatchUSeek forum there's a whole thread dedicated to (IIRC) a 'splashproof' casio quartz being taken diving to good depths. lol
There is loads of good info out there but the same stuff gets posted all the time anyway.Somewhere on the Divers Watch section of the WatchUSeek forum there's a whole thread dedicated to (IIRC) a 'splashproof' casio quartz being taken diving to good depths. lol
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/18/luxury...
‘Watch’ out. Khan’s London doesn’t get any better. Moss Eisley* springs to mind.
‘Watch’ out. Khan’s London doesn’t get any better. Moss Eisley* springs to mind.
- a hive of scum and villainy
stanlow45 said:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/18/luxury...
‘Watch’ out. Khan’s London doesn’t get any better. Moss Eisley* springs to mind.
"Khan's London"... ‘Watch’ out. Khan’s London doesn’t get any better. Moss Eisley* springs to mind.
- a hive of scum and villainy
redrabbit said:
stanlow45 said:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/18/luxury...
‘Watch’ out. Khan’s London doesn’t get any better. Moss Eisley* springs to mind.
"Khan's London"... ‘Watch’ out. Khan’s London doesn’t get any better. Moss Eisley* springs to mind.
- a hive of scum and villainy
sandman77 said:
Even so, I’m still not sure I would wear my Speedmaster pro when swimming.
You'll be fine swimming, but as one prominent watchmaker once told me - there's a far higher risk from detergents (in the shower and bath) helping to bypass seals than plain water.
My Omega is my regular holiday watch and spends a lot of time in the pool or in the sea.
RSTurboPaul said:
ZesPak said:
gregs656 said:
It does mean it can be worn at that depth.
It really doesn't.It basically means that it could survive that pressure, in laboratory conditions, once.
Don't ever take a 5m depth rated watch to a swimming pool, even if the pool is only 2m deep.
Somewhere on the Divers Watch section of the WatchUSeek forum there's a whole thread dedicated to (IIRC) a 'splashproof' casio quartz being taken diving to good depths. lol
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/scuba-with-casi...
Not burst yet!!
Was staying at Gleneagles at the weekend for wife’s birthday. Popped into the Rolex shop and she saw a lovely 28 Datejust with oyster bracelet, fluted bezel and pink dial. Was about £7k.
Salesman came out asked us to sit down got it out the cabinet and put it on her wrist.
She said she loved it and as it was her birthday (50th) she’d just buy it as a present to herself.
Salesman said it wasn’t for sale took it off her wrist and put it back in the cabinet.
What the actual feck! I actually laughed at him and said what’s the point of you having models in a hotel where guests would purchase on the spur of the moment to be told no!
Pissed me off a bit and left a bit of a sour note on a fantastic weekend.
Thought about mentioning it to the hotel GM as it doesn’t reflect well on them having an outlet on their premises that could give a guest a lasting feeling of dissatisfaction after spending a lot of money to stay there.
Tbh it saved us £7k as it would have been a spur of the moment thing and she barely wears her bimetal datejust and never wears her omega constellation.
It’s hardly even a difficult model to get, is it?
Was staying at Gleneagles at the weekend for wife’s birthday. Popped into the Rolex shop and she saw a lovely 28 Datejust with oyster bracelet, fluted bezel and pink dial. Was about £7k.
Salesman came out asked us to sit down got it out the cabinet and put it on her wrist.
She said she loved it and as it was her birthday (50th) she’d just buy it as a present to herself.
Salesman said it wasn’t for sale took it off her wrist and put it back in the cabinet.
What the actual feck! I actually laughed at him and said what’s the point of you having models in a hotel where guests would purchase on the spur of the moment to be told no!
Pissed me off a bit and left a bit of a sour note on a fantastic weekend.
Thought about mentioning it to the hotel GM as it doesn’t reflect well on them having an outlet on their premises that could give a guest a lasting feeling of dissatisfaction after spending a lot of money to stay there.
Tbh it saved us £7k as it would have been a spur of the moment thing and she barely wears her bimetal datejust and never wears her omega constellation.
It’s hardly even a difficult model to get, is it?
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