Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

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PistonGuy66

769 posts

54 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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paulguitar said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I’m sure I’ve said it before, but to my eyes, I think the Nautilus is one of the ugliest watches available.

I can’t stand that weird bulbous 70’s porthole look. It’s neither nothing nor something to look at.

Clearly I am in the minority though, and I fully accept that fact!

Like my Dad would say “I’d be mad if I found one”.
Completely agree, horrible things.
I bet you would like to buy one at RRP! Lol

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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PistonGuy66 said:
paulguitar said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I’m sure I’ve said it before, but to my eyes, I think the Nautilus is one of the ugliest watches available.

I can’t stand that weird bulbous 70’s porthole look. It’s neither nothing nor something to look at.

Clearly I am in the minority though, and I fully accept that fact!

Like my Dad would say “I’d be mad if I found one”.
Completely agree, horrible things.
I bet you would like to buy one at RRP! Lol
Absolutely.

Purely so I could sell it straight away and buy a different watch smile

PistonGuy66

769 posts

54 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
PistonGuy66 said:
paulguitar said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I’m sure I’ve said it before, but to my eyes, I think the Nautilus is one of the ugliest watches available.

I can’t stand that weird bulbous 70’s porthole look. It’s neither nothing nor something to look at.

Clearly I am in the minority though, and I fully accept that fact!

Like my Dad would say “I’d be mad if I found one”.
Completely agree, horrible things.
I bet you would like to buy one at RRP! Lol
Absolutely.

Purely so I could sell it straight away and buy a different watch smile
And a nice car!! Lol

dvs_dave

8,642 posts

226 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
PistonGuy66 said:
paulguitar said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I’m sure I’ve said it before, but to my eyes, I think the Nautilus is one of the ugliest watches available.

I can’t stand that weird bulbous 70’s porthole look. It’s neither nothing nor something to look at.

Clearly I am in the minority though, and I fully accept that fact!

Like my Dad would say “I’d be mad if I found one”.
Completely agree, horrible things.
I bet you would like to buy one at RRP! Lol
Absolutely.

Purely so I could sell it straight away and buy a different watch smile
Agreed. Said it here before….rubbish looking things. But I’d be an idiot to pass up the bunce!

hungry_hog

2,249 posts

189 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
I’m sure I’ve said it before, but to my eyes, I think the Nautilus is one of the ugliest watches available.

I can’t stand that weird bulbous 70’s porthole look. It’s neither nothing nor something to look at.

Clearly I am in the minority though, and I fully accept that fact!

Like my Dad would say “I’d be mad if I found one”.
I agree.

A very boring face. Case shape is interesting but far too much bulk / bare metal. Not elegant.

Date window incongruous with dial.

If Patek started knocking these out for 3k would people want them?

Saweep

6,600 posts

187 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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I've just, a few mins ago, been offered a WG YM42 on rubber and a steel and rose `YM44 for immediate collection by an AD I have never purchased anything from.

Quite fancy the WG.

Decent inflation hedge?

hungry_hog

2,249 posts

189 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Saweep said:
I've just, a few mins ago, been offered a WG YM42 on rubber and a steel and rose `YM44 for immediate collection by an AD I have never purchased anything from.

Quite fancy the WG.

Decent inflation hedge?
If you want an inflation hedge stick with steel vanilla model (Sub, SD, GMT)

Or buy the YM if you like it but I can't see you making money on it

I love the blue YM on steel but even that would be dicey I would say


The Moose

22,865 posts

210 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Saweep said:
I've just, a few mins ago, been offered a WG YM42 on rubber and a steel and rose `YM44 for immediate collection by an AD I have never purchased anything from.

Quite fancy the WG.

Decent inflation hedge?
It's a pretty awesome watch!!

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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hungry_hog said:
Saweep said:
I've just, a few mins ago, been offered a WG YM42 on rubber and a steel and rose `YM44 for immediate collection by an AD I have never purchased anything from.

Quite fancy the WG.

Decent inflation hedge?
If you want an inflation hedge stick with steel vanilla model (Sub, SD, GMT)

Or buy the YM if you like it but I can't see you making money on it

I love the blue YM on steel but even that would be dicey I would say
Love my RG YM40, but it’s not a watch that I expect to appreciate.

Tango13

8,451 posts

177 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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ExecutiveAction said:
I take it then that going into an authorised dealer and asking for discount on a Rolex, is basically not going to happen?
25 years ago an AD sourced a stainless GMT II within 48hrs and gave me a discount for cash.

If you gave the dealer a go on your wife and daughters all at the same time they might, just might put you on the 25 year long waiting list


Ninjin

1,176 posts

76 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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WG YM42 is a stunning watch. Ticks all the boxes for me expect for the price tag. The AD knew I would be tempted and I nearly did but head beat the heart that time.

Only buy it if you love it, you'll be lucky to get your money back on this one.


Fat hippo

732 posts

135 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Ninjin said:
WG YM42 is a stunning watch. Ticks all the boxes for me expect for the price tag. The AD knew I would be tempted and I nearly did but head beat the heart that time.

Only buy it if you love it, you'll be lucky to get your money back on this one.

I like Yachtmasters but how come they people say they don’t hold their value? Are they generally disliked? Is it the styling or that they are just too expensive new?

Fckitdriveon

1,039 posts

91 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Fat hippo said:
Ninjin said:
WG YM42 is a stunning watch. Ticks all the boxes for me expect for the price tag. The AD knew I would be tempted and I nearly did but head beat the heart that time.

Only buy it if you love it, you'll be lucky to get your money back on this one.

I like Yachtmasters but how come they people say they don’t hold their value? Are they generally disliked? Is it the styling or that they are just too expensive new?
These are one of the sleepers in the Rolex range , not overly loved since the launch, but sold 3 of these at over retail in all cases.

Starting to gain abit of traction in the market, with prices creeping up albeit slowly, as the the market prices for other models in the lineup has gone barmy it makes people look at other pieces.

I ve had one myself since 2019 so I m a big fan, get some protection for the clasp and it’s a great Every day watch.

Wills2

22,878 posts

176 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Fat hippo said:
I like Yachtmasters but how come they people say they don’t hold their value? Are they generally disliked? Is it the styling or that they are just too expensive new?
The clue is in the other posters post, got offered them as a walk in...people like what they can't have as that makes money not many people want a Rolex that costs them money....if you couldn't get them they'd be very popular.

If a blue dial Skyd was available everywhere demand to buy one at x2 retail would dry up, the bi-metal 44mm YM would take a 5k bath as you walked out of the store hence it's available to buy













PistonGuy66

769 posts

54 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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They are selling for over rrp, not as big an increase as some models but still worth buying. So imho this is where people go wrong, if you bought said watch it would show the dealer that your not a numpty and you will stand a chance of getting what you want? I know you shouldnt have to di this, but that is life! people want to be behind the velvet rope. Its not just Rolex that do this. I have just bought a PP Calitrava that i dont want or like to get me into a certain nautilus model i want. Am i happy with that? No, but thats how it is. If someone is spending a ton of money with PP then they should get preferential treatment? What i dont get is the numpty lot that have bought one or two Rolex over 5 years and bh they cant get a Daytona! Then they get the hump because they cant get one and slag of the ADs and say Rolex are crap and there are better brands out there! Wow i really must keep of the large vodkas on a sunday night!!! Lol

matrignano

4,384 posts

211 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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I’m surprised the yachtmaster is considered unpopular, it looks the same as a sub to me (and seadweller and GMT)

Harry Flashman

19,375 posts

243 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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PistonGuy66 said:
They are selling for over rrp, not as big an increase as some models but still worth buying. So imho this is where people go wrong, if you bought said watch it would show the dealer that your not a numpty and you will stand a chance of getting what you want? I know you shouldnt have to di this, but that is life! people want to be behind the velvet rope. Its not just Rolex that do this. I have just bought a PP Calitrava that i dont want or like to get me into a certain nautilus model i want. Am i happy with that? No, but thats how it is. If someone is spending a ton of money with PP then they should get preferential treatment? What i dont get is the numpty lot that have bought one or two Rolex over 5 years and bh they cant get a Daytona! Then they get the hump because they cant get one and slag of the ADs and say Rolex are crap and there are better brands out there! Wow i really must keep of the large vodkas on a sunday night!!! Lol
This post is everything that is wrong with this brand.

PistonGuy66

769 posts

54 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
PistonGuy66 said:
They are selling for over rrp, not as big an increase as some models but still worth buying. So imho this is where people go wrong, if you bought said watch it would show the dealer that your not a numpty and you will stand a chance of getting what you want? I know you shouldnt have to di this, but that is life! people want to be behind the velvet rope. Its not just Rolex that do this. I have just bought a PP Calitrava that i dont want or like to get me into a certain nautilus model i want. Am i happy with that? No, but thats how it is. If someone is spending a ton of money with PP then they should get preferential treatment? What i dont get is the numpty lot that have bought one or two Rolex over 5 years and bh they cant get a Daytona! Then they get the hump because they cant get one and slag of the ADs and say Rolex are crap and there are better brands out there! Wow i really must keep of the large vodkas on a sunday night!!! Lol
This post is everything that is wrong with this brand.
Explain??

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
This post is everything that is wrong with this brand.
Don’t like it, don’t buy it…


gregs656

10,903 posts

182 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Fckitdriveon said:
I ve had one myself since 2019 so I m a big fan, get some protection for the clasp and it’s a great Every day watch.
Some protection for the clasp? Really?

A friend of mine who is a collector of things, and is reasonably wealthy, has this policy where if he buys something for himself as a keeper he intentionally marks it.

I accept that the price (and value) of my most expensive watch it not, in the grand scheme of things, that much at a shade under £7000, but the value to me is in the enjoyment of it and I really could not care less if the clasp collects some marks, quite the opposite in fact as while I don’t go to the extent of my friend, I do think there is something to the idea that incidental damage is what makes ‘a watch’ ‘my watch’.