Rolex warranty cards

Rolex warranty cards

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CoolHands

18,702 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Can’t believe you let them treat you like muppets. For those of you that are now being ‘allowed’ to get the cards back, why don’t you put them on the spot and question them about it?

rog007

5,761 posts

225 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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CoolHands said:
Can’t believe you let them treat you like muppets. For those of you that are now being ‘allowed’ to get the cards back, why don’t you put them on the spot and question them about it?
For me, it didn’t really register as an issue. I understood why they were doing it and it didn’t affect me personally, as with or without a warranty card, my watches remained under warranty and I could still sell them if I chose to as not having the warranty card would have made no difference as purchasers would have known the ‘policy’ too. Where it could have affected me, is if I did ‘flip’ and the new owner went to collect the card. I didn’t flip any and to be honest, I’m sure I could have still gone in myself and collected the card and then passed it on to the new owner without the AD being any the wiser.

It’s all stopped now, but it did give us something to chat about for a while around some of our favourite watches. smile


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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CoolHands said:
Can’t believe you let them treat you like muppets. For those of you that are now being ‘allowed’ to get the cards back, why don’t you put them on the spot and question them about it?
Why does it matter? As I put previously, it helps weed out hose interested only in flipping the watches that then fuels the frankly ridiculously priced grey market, so I’m more than happy to let them keep the cards if it supports myself and others actually being able to get the watches they want to keep / collect as opposed to make a quick bit of cash.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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Lord.Vader said:
CoolHands said:
Can’t believe you let them treat you like muppets. For those of you that are now being ‘allowed’ to get the cards back, why don’t you put them on the spot and question them about it?
Why does it matter? As I put previously, it helps weed out hose interested only in flipping the watches that then fuels the frankly ridiculously priced grey market, so I’m more than happy to let them keep the cards if it supports myself and others actually being able to get the watches they want to keep / collect as opposed to make a quick bit of cash.
Keeping the warranty cards doesn’t stop you selling the watch and hasn’t stopped the grey market or even reduced it though and hasn’t made it easier to get watches. It’s completely pointless.

CoolHands

18,702 posts

196 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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Making you take the labels off in the shop and wear it home? I quite like opening new products myself, in my own time, in my own home, not being treated like a child. I’ll never be in a position to buy a Rolex so it’s all academic, but I wouldn’t complete the deal if I had to do that.

PistonGuy66

Original Poster:

769 posts

54 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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[quote=Lord.Vader]M+W Chester has no idea what I was on about when I asked.

When was this??

C. Grimsley

1,364 posts

196 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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I bought my watch this time last year, they kept the card which I collected last week, the sales guy told me a customer was unhappy with this issue and took it court and won, now they sell the watches and give the cards out.

Carl

PistonGuy66

Original Poster:

769 posts

54 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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C. Grimsley said:
I bought my watch this time last year, they kept the card which I collected last week, the sales guy told me a customer was unhappy with this issue and took it court and won, now they sell the watches and give the cards out.

Carl
I keep reading this but as yet have not seen any actual proof of this happening. Im not saying its not true but firstly Wos group or Aurum as it was then im sure would have gone over what they can and cannot do with a fine tooth comb? And im not a expert but when you buy said watch you agree to the terms and conditions?? ie if you dont like the terms dont buy it! But as i said im not an expert. I actually asked Brian Duffy about this and he never said anything to me about a court case. I think its all rumours, like when shop staff tell people that a model is going to be discontinued, the truth is no one knows not even the CEO of Wos until it happens!

C. Grimsley

1,364 posts

196 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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PistonGuy66 said:
I keep reading this but as yet have not seen any actual proof of this happening. Im not saying its not true but firstly Wos group or Aurum as it was then im sure would have gone over what they can and cannot do with a fine tooth comb? And im not a expert but when you buy said watch you agree to the terms and conditions?? ie if you dont like the terms dont buy it! But as i said im not an expert. I actually asked Brian Duffy about this and he never said anything to me about a court case. I think its all rumours, like when shop staff tell people that a model is going to be discontinued, the truth is no one knows not even the CEO of Wos until it happens!
More than likely, I queried the keeping of the card at the time but it was no issue to me, upon collection he told me they don’t keep them no more.

Will more than likely never know the truth, they should do the same with Porsche gt cars 😂

Carl

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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I think when people are buying things from a shop and consumers are letting the shop dictating what you can do with it, after you buy it, then something’s gone a bit wrong somewhere.

Last new watch I bought (in 2018), a Rolex AD told me they wanted to keep the warranty card and I said I wasn’t comfortable with it, the salesman even said I was lucky he was selling the watch to me as I wasn’t local. I went to Mappin and Webb in blue water and bought it there instead and they didn’t keep the card, or ask if I was local or any other nonsense to see if I was worthy enough to buy a watch from them.

This stuff only happens because people go along with it. It’s just a shop selling a watch.

PistonGuy66

Original Poster:

769 posts

54 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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C. Grimsley said:
PistonGuy66 said:
I keep reading this but as yet have not seen any actual proof of this happening. Im not saying its not true but firstly Wos group or Aurum as it was then im sure would have gone over what they can and cannot do with a fine tooth comb? And im not a expert but when you buy said watch you agree to the terms and conditions?? ie if you dont like the terms dont buy it! But as i said im not an expert. I actually asked Brian Duffy about this and he never said anything to me about a court case. I think its all rumours, like when shop staff tell people that a model is going to be discontinued, the truth is no one knows not even the CEO of Wos until it happens!
More than likely, I queried the keeping of the card at the time but it was no issue to me, upon collection he told me they don’t keep them no more.

Will more than likely never know the truth, they should do the same with Porsche gt cars ??

Carl
Hahaha funny you say that, i know a top guy at a porsche main dealer that nearly lost his job for taking back handers on GT’s. So same thing as the AD’s. Oh well money talks i suppose....

Squadrone Rosso

2,760 posts

148 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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WoS Cardiff no longer retain Rolex paperwork.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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El stovey said:
Lord.Vader said:
CoolHands said:
Can’t believe you let them treat you like muppets. For those of you that are now being ‘allowed’ to get the cards back, why don’t you put them on the spot and question them about it?
Why does it matter? As I put previously, it helps weed out hose interested only in flipping the watches that then fuels the frankly ridiculously priced grey market, so I’m more than happy to let them keep the cards if it supports myself and others actually being able to get the watches they want to keep / collect as opposed to make a quick bit of cash.
Keeping the warranty cards doesn’t stop you selling the watch and hasn’t stopped the grey market or even reduced it though and hasn’t made it easier to get watches. It’s completely pointless.
No of course it doesn’t, but only an idiot would sell it without the cards instead of waiting 12 months.

Considering I got my black Daytona as a first ever purchase and M+W said it was because the other 3 or 4 people they’d called before me wouldn’t agree to them keeping the card then I’d suggest it does make it easier.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Has it had a noticeable affect on the grey market? I doubt it very much: grey dealers have more stock than ADs do! ADs know exactly where virtually all of their stock comes from, but are happy to continue the charade.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Lord.Vader said:
No of course it doesn’t, but only an idiot would sell it without the cards instead of waiting 12 months.
Why do you think only an idiot would sell a Rolex without the card?

Buster73

5,069 posts

154 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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El stovey said:
Why do you think only an idiot would sell a Rolex without the card?
Speaking to a grey dealer last year ,he offered me £x for my watch with a balance of £500 when the warranty card was supplied to him.

Holding back the warranty card has had no impact on supply to the grey market , anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

B_Tank88

126 posts

79 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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Well, going to pick up both my cards from Goldsmiths whenever I can I'm told they can be picked up anytime.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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El stovey said:
Lord.Vader said:
No of course it doesn’t, but only an idiot would sell it without the cards instead of waiting 12 months.
Why do you think only an idiot would sell a Rolex without the card?
Ok rephrase the question, do you get the most value with or without the card?

Nothing from M+W Chester when I asked last week.

Nigel_O

2,902 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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My son and I were told by Goldsmiths last week that they had been retaining warranty cards last year, but that the practice had now stopped (didn’t say why)

Tony1963

4,789 posts

163 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Lord.Vader said:
Ok rephrase the question, do you get the most value with or without the card?

Nothing from M+W Chester when I asked last week.
It’d be better to ask what the difference in sale price would be with and without warranty card.