I got mugged for my watch in London!

I got mugged for my watch in London!

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z4RRSchris

11,302 posts

180 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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okgo said:
Of the tens of thousands of people wearing expensive watches in London, this is pretty rare. If true.

I wouldn't let it worry me, and indeed I shan't.
i would be worried if i was wearing a flashy gold AP worth 50k or whatever.

OlonMusky

708 posts

55 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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L1OFF said:
My Rolex and Moonwatch spend 99.9% of the time in a watch box and a £15 "Ben Sherman" which keeps better time smile on my wrist.
There's no way this is true (I'm referring to Rolex), unless Ben Sherman put high quality, thermo-compensated movements into their 15quid watches.

L1OFF

3,364 posts

257 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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OlonMusky said:
There's no way this is true (I'm referring to Rolex), unless Ben Sherman put high quality, thermo-compensated movements into their 15quid watches.
Its 2002 and in dire need of a service (not had one yet) I tried to find a way of sending it via post but could find anyway apart from the AD. Will do it after Xmas.

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

125 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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OlonMusky said:
L1OFF said:
My Rolex and Moonwatch spend 99.9% of the time in a watch box and a £15 "Ben Sherman" which keeps better time smile on my wrist.
There's no way this is true (I'm referring to Rolex), unless Ben Sherman put high quality, thermo-compensated movements into their 15quid watches.
Quartz gets far better accuracy than any mechanical watch from Rolex.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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irocfan said:
bobo said:
I dont wear mine now ... they can have the swatch if they want it.

about time they built more jails and monetized the cheap labour that is prisoners.
on the face of it I do agree - however what happens to those people who work in the industries likely affected by this cheap labour (for example street cleaning, making a.n.other geegaw)?
Very few are employed fixing potholes in the roads/cutting back hedges/keeping council verges cut/sweeping the gutters along roads/emptying the drains etc. Councils can't afford it, apparently. Other organisations could use numbers of manual labourers, too: Heritage railways, canal restoration projects, clearing up fly tipping etc etc etc. If we can use the resource, perhaps give them a sense of purpose and save councils money, why don't we?

OlonMusky

708 posts

55 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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lostkiwi said:
Quartz gets far better accuracy than any mechanical watch from Rolex.
No it doesn't. A brand new and/or well regulated Rolex will be more accurate than a 15quid quartz.

So

26,295 posts

223 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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OlonMusky said:
lostkiwi said:
Quartz gets far better accuracy than any mechanical watch from Rolex.
No it doesn't. A brand new and/or well regulated Rolex will be more accurate than a 15quid quartz.
Really? I seem to recall that modern Rolexes are +/-2. My son has a number of cheap quartz watches and they are all far better than that.

Barchettaman

6,317 posts

133 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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OlonMusky said:
No it doesn't. A brand new and/or well regulated Rolex will be more accurate than a 15quid quartz.
Totally incorrect, I‘m afraid.

No one buys a mechanical watch for its accuracy though so it doesn’t matter.

OlonMusky

708 posts

55 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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So said:
OlonMusky said:
lostkiwi said:
Quartz gets far better accuracy than any mechanical watch from Rolex.
No it doesn't. A brand new and/or well regulated Rolex will be more accurate than a 15quid quartz.
Really? I seem to recall that modern Rolexes are +/-2. My son has a number of cheap quartz watches and they are all far better than that.
+/-2 is the worst case scenario. From my personal experience with modern Rolexes and Tudors getting one that is close to +/-0 is not that much of a challenge and after a month I'd be looking at typically a small gain well below 5 sec.

A cheapo quartz we're looking at 15 sec/month at least, guaranteed. It's an urban myth (spread by people who don't bother doing research, or just like believing what they're told) that quartz is superior than mechanical movements in general. Unless we're talking about HAQ type of quartz.

Superleg48

1,524 posts

134 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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A few people questioning the point of spending money on nice watches when a 15 quid watch essentially does the same thing..I.e. tell the time. Accuracy is sort of irrelevant unless you are engaged in an activity that requires synchronisation to the nth degree.

I thought the same for years. Never spent more than maybe £100 quid tops.

However, recently, I have been fortunate enough to own a couple of nice Omegas, both 4 figure purchase prices (clearly not in the league of the OPs watch, but special enough to me). I have come to realise that owning and wearing a nice watch that costs a fair amount of money is the fact that it is to some extent more than a watch, it is a nice piece of jewellery that tells the time. Therein, for me, is the point of them.


lostkiwi

4,584 posts

125 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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OlonMusky said:
So said:
OlonMusky said:
lostkiwi said:
Quartz gets far better accuracy than any mechanical watch from Rolex.
No it doesn't. A brand new and/or well regulated Rolex will be more accurate than a 15quid quartz.
Really? I seem to recall that modern Rolexes are +/-2. My son has a number of cheap quartz watches and they are all far better than that.
+/-2 is the worst case scenario. From my personal experience with modern Rolexes and Tudors getting one that is close to +/-0 is not that much of a challenge and after a month I'd be looking at typically a small gain well below 5 sec.

A cheapo quartz we're looking at 15 sec/month at least, guaranteed. It's an urban myth (spread by people who don't bother doing research, or just like believing what they're told) that quartz is superior than mechanical movements in general. Unless we're talking about HAQ type of quartz.
Utter rubbish. Rolex are sod all better than any other COSC certified timepiece - especially after a few years use. The average cheap quartz watch will easily better a mechanical movement - especially the Casio bin Laden special. Some quartz watches can get to 1 second per year. Nothing mechanical gets close.

Accuracy is pretty irrelevant to a certain extent.
Who needs that level of accuracy in day to day life? A fancy watch is a fashion/wealth/ego statement (and I'm as bad as the next man).

Edited by lostkiwi on Monday 16th December 21:54

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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I was just wondering how accurate my Seiko Prospex is, it is now pretty much 2 years old, I set it when I got it and have not adjusted it since, I don't think I have worn it for 6 months, just sits on the shelf, the date is also wrong as I didn't even realise it had a date on it my eyes are so bad!

I just checked now and against clocktab.com it is showing 3 seconds faster.

That puts my datejust to shame somewhat.

Hoofy

76,380 posts

283 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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So said:
OlonMusky said:
lostkiwi said:
Quartz gets far better accuracy than any mechanical watch from Rolex.
No it doesn't. A brand new and/or well regulated Rolex will be more accurate than a 15quid quartz.
Really? I seem to recall that modern Rolexes are +/-2. My son has a number of cheap quartz watches and they are all far better than that.
Yep. A Casio quartz will be +/-1s a month. But if you're a regular in the Watch forum, you won't care about accuracy to that degree. COSC is good enough for most of us!

famoussas

641 posts

184 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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I haven't read this thread apart from the original post but...

I was mugged in the exact same place for the exact same watch at 1pm on a Sunday afternoon in September this year.

It was two young men fully covered up in black on push bikes, except my mugging involved a very large knife and the two men bundling me to the floor and the situation spilling into the Home House lobby. They had followed me from Baker Street as I crossed onto Portman Square.

Unfortunately they got the watch but I was fine - police were useless and did absolutely nothing, despite telling me all the tricks they had up their sleeves. Case was closed within 10 days.

Home House know this is happening and imo are doing nothing, given it's now happened twice on their doorstep or very close vicinity....but I won't go into that any further on a public forum.

Glad you're ok.




Edited by famoussas on Monday 16th December 22:22

Baldchap

7,668 posts

93 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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According to a quick Google, consumer grade quartz watches are typically between 0.1-2.0 seconds per day.

OlonMusky

708 posts

55 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Hoofy said:
Yep. A Casio quartz will be +/-1s a month.
lostkiwi said:
The average cheap quartz watch will easily better a mechanical movement - especially the Casio bin Laden special.
F91W "Accuracy at normal temperature: ±30 seconds a month"

There's no wonder Brexit happened.

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

125 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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OlonMusky said:
Hoofy said:
Yep. A Casio quartz will be +/-1s a month.
lostkiwi said:
The average cheap quartz watch will easily better a mechanical movement - especially the Casio bin Laden special.
F91W "Accuracy at normal temperature: ±30 seconds a month"

There's no wonder Brexit happened.
And at +/-30 seconds per month it's still better than Rolex with their +/-2 seconds per day. Of course you'll argue that Rolex are often better than that but then so will the Casio have many that are better.
You could buy over a thousand F91Ws for just one Rolex.
Funnily enough the Casio is also probably rarer.

Incidentally if you want accuracy Citizen have managed 1 second per year with their 0100 movement. A watch using it costs about the same as a Rolex, is much rarer than a Rolex and by the way is quartz and never needs a battery.

Incidentally you have no idea how I voted on Brexit so your insult doesn't really work (a bit like your thought processes).

Edited by lostkiwi on Tuesday 17th December 07:43

MPC09

158 posts

139 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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okgo said:
Statistically London pretty safe I should think, never had an issue myself. And I live in the middle of plenty of dodgy areas. But as said above, I doubt your average South London gang member knows much about watches...
I wouldn't be so sure - the rise of social media, notably Instagram, has given plenty of people the insight into what watches are desirable.

It doesn't matter where you're from or what gang you might be in; they'll be on social media and distinct watches like an AP will stand out a mile if you're paying attention.

Hope the OP is okay after the ordeal.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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OlonMusky said:
lostkiwi said:
Quartz gets far better accuracy than any mechanical watch from Rolex.
No it doesn't. A brand new and/or well regulated Rolex will be more accurate than a 15quid quartz.
None of mine have been.

NDA

21,598 posts

226 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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I'm not sure people buy decent mechanical watches for split second accuracy - nor do many buy them for some kind of 'statement'.

Most people wouldn't know what a Lange, Patek or Ulysse was if it bit them. Watch collectors often buy for mechanical beauty or complexity (or both).

Thread drifting..... sorry.