Omega x Swatch Collaboration
Discussion
Dal3D said:
Well these three turned up today from DHGate;
With the correct packaging and even what looks like official documents and warranty cards your be hard pushed to know they're £20 not £200. The only thing I can see is the adjustment dial doesn't have the Swatch / Omega logo on it.
Other than that, for £20 I can't complain whatever it's provenance is!
PS: the advert didn't have any logos when I bought them as some have asked about.
It should make you wonder how someone is able to produce that level of quality, including the boxes / manuals etc.. for £20 delivered to your door. With the correct packaging and even what looks like official documents and warranty cards your be hard pushed to know they're £20 not £200. The only thing I can see is the adjustment dial doesn't have the Swatch / Omega logo on it.
Other than that, for £20 I can't complain whatever it's provenance is!
PS: the advert didn't have any logos when I bought them as some have asked about.
Retail margin would be what... 30%? So really it's a £14 watch.. then everyone else in the supply chain.
How do you think they make these for that money? Should we all take a guess?
Fishy Dave said:
I'm another who would like to buy one of these watches, but is not going to travel 100 miles into central London, on the off chance they might have a design I want. I've dropped Swatch an email and inevitably received a copy and paste answer, it's a shame. I'd not asked them for a discount (nor would I expect one), just the opportunity to buy one online from a legit. source. Has anyone tried to contact any of the shops to see if they will mail order them?
Email received:
Hi!
Many thanks for your email.
We've been overwhelmed with the huge enthusiasm for the Omega MoonSwatch collaboration.
At present it is only available in our Oxford Street, Covent Garden and Battersea stores in London, and Edinburgh and Glasgow in Scotland.
However, we do not have access to the stocks in the store and we do not have access to the deliveries of the store but the stores do have the watches available for purchase.
Kindly contact the stores to confirm current availability of stocks for the moonswatch
we’re not able to reserve or pre-order watches and currently there are no plans to sell the collection online. Likewise discounts are not available for the watch.
Kind regards
Swatch and Flik Flak
Which one are you after? Going to Covent Garden next Monday as long as i get to london in time. Email received:
Hi!
Many thanks for your email.
We've been overwhelmed with the huge enthusiasm for the Omega MoonSwatch collaboration.
At present it is only available in our Oxford Street, Covent Garden and Battersea stores in London, and Edinburgh and Glasgow in Scotland.
However, we do not have access to the stocks in the store and we do not have access to the deliveries of the store but the stores do have the watches available for purchase.
Kindly contact the stores to confirm current availability of stocks for the moonswatch
we’re not able to reserve or pre-order watches and currently there are no plans to sell the collection online. Likewise discounts are not available for the watch.
Kind regards
Swatch and Flik Flak
sandman77 said:
InformationSuperHighway said:
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How do you think they make these for that money? Should we all take a guess?
No need to guess. Stolen design, cheap materials, off the shelf Chinese movement and slave labour. How do you think they make these for that money? Should we all take a guess?
Edited by sandman77 on Wednesday 28th June 18:35
I'm not snobby about this stuff, but buying fake anything is morally terrible and you should be ashamed.
InformationSuperHighway said:
buying fake anything is morally terrible and you should be ashamed.
Really? Should someone be ashamed about wanting to buy something that they would never normally be able to afford. We are fed all this stuff regards your money going straight into the pockets of criminals etc but how is that any different to Adidas etc using sweat shops?I’ve bought copy clothing in the past on holiday in Turkey, the quality is as good, if not better, than the real thing.
Am I ashamed? Of course not and I’m fairly certain that the major brands are not impacted as people probably wouldn’t have bought the stuff from them in the first place at the prices they charge.
When my kids were young I always bought them their teams football kits when on holiday (about £15) as the mark ups on the originals were quite frankly ridiculous (almost £100 for a full kit).
InformationSuperHighway said:
sandman77 said:
InformationSuperHighway said:
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How do you think they make these for that money? Should we all take a guess?
No need to guess. Stolen design, cheap materials, off the shelf Chinese movement and slave labour. How do you think they make these for that money? Should we all take a guess?
Edited by sandman77 on Wednesday 28th June 18:35
I'm not snobby about this stuff, but buying fake anything is morally terrible and you should be ashamed.
The interesting thing is why do people buy fakes. If the fake costs £20 why not just buy a Casio? At least you know it's made by a reputable company, some of the money is going to support product development, keep people legitimately employed, pays taxes to support the people in the country its made and you're not trying to fool anyone.
I suspect we know some of the real reasons why people buy fakes, can't afford the real thing, think wearing a fake gives them the same cachet as the real thing, kid people that "its just a bit of fun" while knowing deep down that it really isn't and the real twisted logic of thinking they got a bargain.
But however you look at it, buying a fake is still tantamount to theft and some people might think that is quite shameful.
I suspect we know some of the real reasons why people buy fakes, can't afford the real thing, think wearing a fake gives them the same cachet as the real thing, kid people that "its just a bit of fun" while knowing deep down that it really isn't and the real twisted logic of thinking they got a bargain.
But however you look at it, buying a fake is still tantamount to theft and some people might think that is quite shameful.
Jamescrs said:
It is frustrating that they never released the watches to anywhere other than (almost) the two extremes of the country north and south, I would have thought there was a strong argument to go somewhere like Manchester with them in addition.
It doesn't matter too much to me now because I picked one up on holiday in Krakow but I think they missed a trick.
I managed to get m mission to the sun from a Swatch pop up shop in the trafford centre so i think they realised there was a gap in the market.It doesn't matter too much to me now because I picked one up on holiday in Krakow but I think they missed a trick.
I have a fake and a genuine. Still wear the fake one on occasion, nice to chuck it on and not care about it. Plus I fitted a nato strap to the genuine one, so they feel different to wear.
I wouldn't have bought the fake one if it hadn't taken me 3 visits to London to get hold of a genuine one, and I don't visit that frequently.
Would still like a Pluto at some point but the fake ones don't look great, they seem to have issues matching the red on the dials to the red outer ring, which would bug me.
Interesting that their template email now says no plans to sell this collection online, I thought the plan was always to eventually make these available online, but they've probably realised the pent up demand is what's driving the desirability. I'm sure they could tool up to make as many of these watches as they needed to, supply is just an excuse.
I wouldn't have bought the fake one if it hadn't taken me 3 visits to London to get hold of a genuine one, and I don't visit that frequently.
Would still like a Pluto at some point but the fake ones don't look great, they seem to have issues matching the red on the dials to the red outer ring, which would bug me.
Interesting that their template email now says no plans to sell this collection online, I thought the plan was always to eventually make these available online, but they've probably realised the pent up demand is what's driving the desirability. I'm sure they could tool up to make as many of these watches as they needed to, supply is just an excuse.
resolve10 said:
Interesting that their template email now says no plans to sell this collection online, I thought the plan was always to eventually make these available online, but they've probably realised the pent up demand is what's driving the desirability. I'm sure they could tool up to make as many of these watches as they needed to, supply is just an excuse.
Absolutely, it is a cheap, plastic watch, they could make as many as they wanted to. Trouble is, like all of these things as soon as people can get whichever one they want instantly they won't want one anymore.The whole reason people still want one is because they are difficult to get hold of.
Look at the Prime energy drink, when there was limited stock people were going absolutely mental, queueing up for hours and buying it for several multiples of the MRRP. Now every super market actually has stock on the shelves, nobody is interested anymore. And it tastes like horrifically sweet crap.
Joey Deacon said:
Absolutely, it is a cheap, plastic watch, they could make as many as they wanted to. Trouble is, like all of these things as soon as people can get whichever one they want instantly they won't want one anymore.
The whole reason people still want one is because they are difficult to get hold of.
Look at the Prime energy drink, when there was limited stock people were going absolutely mental, queueing up for hours and buying it for several multiples of the MRRP. Now every super market actually has stock on the shelves, nobody is interested anymore. And it tastes like horrifically sweet crap.
Good point also indicates the companies value, as the example of prime they want a billion dollar valuation and only way is to get wide spread media coverage that money can't buy in reality.The whole reason people still want one is because they are difficult to get hold of.
Look at the Prime energy drink, when there was limited stock people were going absolutely mental, queueing up for hours and buying it for several multiples of the MRRP. Now every super market actually has stock on the shelves, nobody is interested anymore. And it tastes like horrifically sweet crap.
Both markets are very tough, companies spend billions just to launch new brands that usually fail. I think they look at the trainer markets, Nike own 60% of total market yet still sell the idea of bespoke to a mass audience, as everyone wants to feel unique, the irony.
They are available online, though don't know if they'll send to the UK.
They say they ship worldwide.
https://www.swatchmall.shop/
They say they ship worldwide.
https://www.swatchmall.shop/
Edited by SlimJim16v on Thursday 29th June 14:26
SlimJim16v said:
They are available online, though don't know if they'll send to the UK.
They say they ship worldwide.
https://www.swatchmall.shop/
Interesting, but no physical address and nsosjhdod@gmail.com as the only contact? Sounds a bit fishy to me.They say they ship worldwide.
https://www.swatchmall.shop/
Edited by SlimJim16v on Thursday 29th June 14:26
SlimJim16v said:
They are available online, though don't know if they'll send to the UK.
They say they ship worldwide.
https://www.swatchmall.shop/
Looks dodgy. Most likely to be fake/scam.They say they ship worldwide.
https://www.swatchmall.shop/
Edited by SlimJim16v on Thursday 29th June 14:26
Edited by North West Tom on Thursday 29th June 15:10
InformationSuperHighway said:
Indeed... and as is shown on here... they turn up, are total crap and end up in the bin.
I'm not snobby about this stuff, but buying fake anything is morally terrible and you should be ashamed.
Are you forgetting they're a "cheap knock off" of the proper Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch? I'm not snobby about this stuff, but buying fake anything is morally terrible and you should be ashamed.
By comparison to the real ones they're crap materials, naff quality and available to buy (sometimes) by people who dont bank at Courts?
It's a Bloody disgrace I tell you.
Or, you pays your money and takes your choice.
North West Tom said:
SlimJim16v said:
They are available online, though don't know if they'll send to the UK.
They say they ship worldwide.
https://www.swatchmall.shop/
Looks dodgy. Most likely to be fake/scam.They say they ship worldwide.
https://www.swatchmall.shop/
Edited by SlimJim16v on Thursday 29th June 14:26
Edited by North West Tom on Thursday 29th June 15:10
They can be bought online on the grey market, but prices are above retail.
It’s a special edition and it’s a hype. Part of this is limited availability and that it van only be bought in a few places.
That is part of the fun!
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