How accurate is your COSC watch really

How accurate is your COSC watch really

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troc

3,767 posts

176 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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I have 2 mechanical watches I wear regularly:

My Longines zulu time seems to gain 1-2 seconds a day.

My JLC Polaris (they have their own standards) is about the same.

My various ‘cheaper’ Seiko, glycine etc are significantly worse but intend to only wear them occasionally. The Casios and other random battery things are within a few seconds a month except one swatch which seems to prefer to run at random speeds.

My Garmin is, of course, always spot on, as is my Apple Watch.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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gt40steve said:
That sounds a mistake ?

ISO / COSC chronometer accuracy must be within +6 to -4 seconds a day as I understand it.

Several manufacturers are approved to test & certify in house, so no, not every watch goes to Switzerland for calibration.

My Bremont was well within this specification for several years. It eventually started gaining, mainly due to magnetism (it's not one of the Faraday caged movements).

Since I returned it to the factory for a service, it is back to 'as new' accuracy. Stripped, cleaned, demagnetised, reassembled, tested, regulated and certified again with a two year guarantee. (£375 FYI)

I've recently had a visit to the factory & saw the service department, new builds, and testing process first hand. Interesting, fiddly stuff !
Wish my bill was £375. I think you can mulitply that by 8 and you'd still have to find some change down the back of the sofa frown

Not really worth it watch wise, mainly sentimental value

Nigel_O

2,899 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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On an entirely different note, I found a Casio F91-W on a beach in south wales about 20 years ago. I wore it on and off for a while, purely for the novelty value. After about five years of using it occasionally when I knew I’d be getting wet or dirty, the strap broke and the display started fading. I bought a new strap from Casio, put a new battery in it after which, it went in a drawer.

I was rummaging in the drawer at the weekend and remembered the watch - it had lost under two minutes in the last 15 years…

NDA

21,615 posts

226 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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pistonheadforum said:
Genuine question and interested in the spread of numbers for folk who wear a COSC watch on a daily basis.

If you can set it for a single day and find out how fast/slow it's running it would help as trying to build a database of manufacturers/models with real world performance.

Thanks in advance.
My Sky Dweller loses 2 seconds a day. But if I leave it dial up overnight, it comes back to a zero loss and spot on.

My GP, when first worn is about 1 second a day fast.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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I hate to be 'that guy' but isn't this a bit pointless as you don't know the condition and use of all these watches you are asking about.

How old is the watch?
Has it been serviced?
Has it been served by an approved service centre?
How long ago was it serviced?
Has it been dropped or otherwise had the movement 'knocked'?
Is it being wound correctly, and wound enough, on a regular basis?
How is it being worn and does that affect the timekeeping?
Is it perhaps suffering from any kind of magnetism?

There are far too many variables to get any meaningful data.

I've know people who own newish COSC watches with terrible timekeeping, and I've owned old bangers of ETA powered automatics which haven't been serviced for nearly a decade, which run within about 10 seconds a week.

Barchettaman

6,318 posts

133 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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It is a pointless exercise but as the OP mentioned, it’s to do with a beer-related bet, and therefore is of utmost importance.

pistonheadforum

Original Poster:

1,150 posts

122 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Lord Marylebone said:
I hate to be 'that guy' but isn't this a bit pointless as you don't know the condition and use of all these watches you are asking about.

How old is the watch?
Has it been serviced?
Has it been served by an approved service centre?
How long ago was it serviced?
Has it been dropped or otherwise had the movement 'knocked'?
Is it being wound correctly, and wound enough, on a regular basis?
How is it being worn and does that affect the timekeeping?
Is it perhaps suffering from any kind of magnetism?

There are far too many variables to get any meaningful data.

I've know people who own newish COSC watches with terrible timekeeping, and I've owned old bangers of ETA powered automatics which haven't been serviced for nearly a decade, which run within about 10 seconds a week.
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Indeed - completely pointless but somewhat interesting hopefully. I had always assumed that COSC meant spot on but now appreciate the whole "dial up" shenanigans overnight to bring it back inline and think that adds to the charm of a mechanical watch.


Beer has been paid in full, but interesting to hear that most people are getting COSC bang-for-buck unless they have a bigger problem with their watches.

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NDA

21,615 posts

226 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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It is pointless - but interesting. smile