Have you bought one of those great looking Rolex/Omega fakes

Have you bought one of those great looking Rolex/Omega fakes

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Gixer968CS

Original Poster:

599 posts

88 months

Tuesday 30th January
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I have an interest in watches and as a result I seem to get A LOT of websites advertising fake premium brand watches to me on Instagram. Pushing Rolex, Omega etc and I have to say the watches look fantastic and it's pretty tempting to dive in. They advertise as Swiss Watches etc but seem to be based in Asia (Hong Kong). Watches range from £300-£800. Would I just kiss goodbye to several hundred quid and have my identity stolen or would I actually end up with a replica watch that no one could tell apart from the original?

The Dictator

1,370 posts

140 months

Tuesday 30th January
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If you have an interest in watches, I am surprised that you would entertain a fake, as surely the image you would be projecting is different from the reality.

Who are you trying to impress with a fake Rolex or Omega, why are you trying to impress them more importantly?

A homage would be achievable will within your budget, Steinhart for example if Rolex is your thing, then at least you are buying a genuine product rather than some bit of tat.

super7

1,935 posts

208 months

Tuesday 30th January
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The Dictator said:
If you have an interest in watches, I am surprised that you would entertain a fake, as surely the image you would be projecting is different from the reality.

Who are you trying to impress with a fake Rolex or Omega, why are you trying to impress them more importantly?

A homage would be achievable will within your budget, Steinhart for example if Rolex is your thing, then at least you are buying a genuine product rather than some bit of tat.
Who are you trying to impress with a real Rolex or Omega ?

Surely your projecting the same image as the person wearing the real one. If the copy is that good, the only person who'd know is yourself.

Gixer968CS

Original Poster:

599 posts

88 months

Tuesday 30th January
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The Dictator said:
If you have an interest in watches, I am surprised that you would entertain a fake, as surely the image you would be projecting is different from the reality.

Who are you trying to impress with a fake Rolex or Omega, why are you trying to impress them more importantly?

A homage would be achievable will within your budget, Steinhart for example if Rolex is your thing, then at least you are buying a genuine product rather than some bit of tat.
Oh man. Actually I've owned a Submariner for 28 years and recently had it refurbished/restored. I'm on a wait list for a Daytona which may or may not ever come. My problem is that I now rarely wear my Sub as I don't want to scuff it up again (used to wear it all day every day no matter what I was doing but now want to cherish it as I've had it so long). I usually wear a Apple Watch now. I really like the 50th Anniversery Moon watch but buying one used is not an option and why not just wear something you like, real or not without being judged??

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Tuesday 30th January
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I don't have one.
But from what I've seen, the latest fakes are pretty much indistinguishable from the real thing. In some cases only an expert with a loupe and disassembling the watch allows the differences to be seen. Plenty of videos on youtube of experts looking at fakes and showing how close they are.

I'm not sure the movements are great, and you might struggle with servicing.

Barchettaman

6,309 posts

132 months

Tuesday 30th January
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So to the questions asked:

1) Dunno, you might
2) It is extremely unlikely that the casual acquaintance will clock it’s a fake. But you’ll know. Perhaps that says something about you - that you’re the kind of person that likes to deceive. I don’t know, I don’t care.

What I would say is that £300 to £800 buys you a LOT of ‘real’ watch that will bring you years of enjoyment, reliability and will be legal to sell on. Enjoy the journey of looking for real watches, new and used, in your chosen budget.

Best wishes.

Gixer968CS

Original Poster:

599 posts

88 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Barchettaman said:
So to the questions asked:

1) Dunno, you might
2) It is extremely unlikely that the casual acquaintance will clock it’s a fake. But you’ll know. Perhaps that says something about you - that you’re the kind of person that likes to deceive. I don’t know, I don’t care.

What I would say is that £300 to £800 buys you a LOT of ‘real’ watch that will bring you years of enjoyment, reliability and will be legal to sell on. Enjoy the journey of looking for real watches, new and used, in your chosen budget.

Best wishes.
Maybe read my second post above??

some bloke

1,056 posts

67 months

Tuesday 30th January
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No, but I always regret not buying one off the guy outside my hotel in Shanghai in 2009. He was selling them and Mont Blanc pens for about £4 each.

Countdown

39,896 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th January
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The Dictator said:
Who are you trying to impress with a fake Rolex or Omega, why are you trying to impress them more importantly?
Do wearers of genuine Rolex/Omega wear them to impress people?

The answer (that few people will openly admit) is "Yes they do". It says "I have spent lots of money on a watch, I am rich!". And it's upsetting to them when somebody else creates the same impression for only a few hundred quid.

If people were wearing Rolex et al because they appreciated the quality, engineering, workmanship then it would matter not a jot if somebody else was wearing a fake. Wearing a fake doesnt affect the enjoyment of quality/engineering etc, the only thing it dilutes is the image.

Chad_Hugo

649 posts

178 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Fakes are a massive no no for me, and should be for everyone really.

Its a bit sad and pathetic in my opinion- amazes me that the question 'who will know' still pops up when the obvious answer is YOU will know and that's all that matters.

I'd also steer well clear of any dubious overseas websites offering such watches as you never know what they will or won't do with your method of payment and personal details.

gregs656

10,886 posts

181 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Countdown said:
Do wearers of genuine Rolex/Omega wear them to impress people?

The answer (that few people will openly admit) is "Yes they do". It says "I have spent lots of money on a watch, I am rich!". And it's upsetting to them when somebody else creates the same impression for only a few hundred quid.

If people were wearing Rolex et al because they appreciated the quality, engineering, workmanship then it would matter not a jot if somebody else was wearing a fake. Wearing a fake doesnt affect the enjoyment of quality/engineering etc, the only thing it dilutes is the image.
It's just a bit sad that people want to pretend they have something they don't.

If you like the look of a watch, particularly a Rolex, you can get like for like copies that aren't counterfeits. The only reason you wouldn't do that is so you can pretend you have something you don't.

shirt

22,570 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Gixer968CS said:
Oh man. Actually I've owned a Submariner for 28 years and recently had it refurbished/restored. I'm on a wait list for a Daytona which may or may not ever come. My problem is that I now rarely wear my Sub as I don't want to scuff it up again (used to wear it all day every day no matter what I was doing but now want to cherish it as I've had it so long). I usually wear a Apple Watch now. I really like the 50th Anniversery Moon watch but buying one used is not an option and why not just wear something you like, real or not without being judged??
Why not get a copy of the watch you already own? I have a mate who owns a few nice watches including a genuine ceramic sub for which he also has a copy he wears to work (construction).

paulw123

3,217 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Sounds a good idea, I can wear it whilst driving in my MR2 with a Ferrari body kit

Regbuser

3,496 posts

35 months

Tuesday 30th January
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I like an obviously fake lolrex


Countdown

39,896 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th January
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gregs656 said:
Countdown said:
Do wearers of genuine Rolex/Omega wear them to impress people?

The answer (that few people will openly admit) is "Yes they do". It says "I have spent lots of money on a watch, I am rich!". And it's upsetting to them when somebody else creates the same impression for only a few hundred quid.

If people were wearing Rolex et al because they appreciated the quality, engineering, workmanship then it would matter not a jot if somebody else was wearing a fake. Wearing a fake doesnt affect the enjoyment of quality/engineering etc, the only thing it dilutes is the image.
It's just a bit sad that people want to pretend they have something they don't.

If you like the look of a watch, particularly a Rolex, you can get like for like copies that aren't counterfeits. The only reason you wouldn't do that is so you can pretend you have something you don't.
Why would anyone else care?

The reason is image; Those wearing the fakes are creating a false image and those with genuine Rolexes getting upset because it dilutes their image (the one they paid thousands for). If it was a fake Casio or Sekonda nobody would care either way.

Alex Z

1,125 posts

76 months

Tuesday 30th January
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spookly said:
I don't have one.
But from what I've seen, the latest fakes are pretty much indistinguishable from the real thing. In some cases only an expert with a loupe and disassembling the watch allows the differences to be seen. Plenty of videos on youtube of experts looking at fakes and showing how close they are.

I'm not sure the movements are great, and you might struggle with servicing.
That may be the case for the best fakes, but how do you know whether you’ll get one of those or a far shoddier copy?
By definition, a site selling fakes is not going to be entirely trustworthy.

Bungleaio

6,331 posts

202 months

Tuesday 30th January
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I’d say the masses like them.

I’m in a Facebook group for going on cruises to the far east, someone asked about where to get the best fake watches and people were going mad saying that there’s loads available and they are really good for less than £50. I was the only one saying they are a bad thing and are only for idiots who are trying to impress other idiots.

gregs656

10,886 posts

181 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Countdown said:
Why would anyone else care?

The reason is image; Those wearing the fakes are creating a false image and those with genuine Rolexes getting upset because it dilutes their image (the one they paid thousands for). If it was a fake Casio or Sekonda nobody would care either way.
I don't care. I do think it's a bit sad, but have some respect for people who are honest and say they just want the image they perceive they are getting without the spend. I think it gets quite desperate when people try and justify buying counterfeits for any other reason.

I also don't agree that cheap counterfeits are any different.


InformationSuperHighway

6,018 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Countdown said:
The Dictator said:
Who are you trying to impress with a fake Rolex or Omega, why are you trying to impress them more importantly?
Do wearers of genuine Rolex/Omega wear them to impress people?

The answer (that few people will openly admit) is "Yes they do". It says "I have spent lots of money on a watch, I am rich!". And it's upsetting to them when somebody else creates the same impression for only a few hundred quid.

If people were wearing Rolex et al because they appreciated the quality, engineering, workmanship then it would matter not a jot if somebody else was wearing a fake. Wearing a fake doesnt affect the enjoyment of quality/engineering etc, the only thing it dilutes is the image.
I tend to agree.

I bought a Rolex / other nice watches as i want them for me, not for anyone else. In fact if I am going to be in a large group setting of any kind (Friends, work, new people etc..) i tend not to wear them. I guess kind of the opposite of trying to impress people. The times I have worn it in group settings, I tend to find myself subconsciously tucking under my shirt cuff.

I bought it for me and no one else. If someone else wants to wear a fake, that's their business and (As mentioned above) as only they will know it's a fake.. it's only them that can judge themselves for wearing one. My personal opinion is I would never wear one as I wouldn't enjoy it for the reasons I wear my real ones.

As for buying a fake as a beater for a construction site.. give me strength.. buy a G-Shock.

Dave.

7,360 posts

253 months

Tuesday 30th January
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There are plenty of nice watches too choose from for £300 to £800.

There's zero (well ok, one) reasons to buy knock offs from China.