Have you bought one of those great looking Rolex/Omega fakes
Discussion
BrokenSkunk said:
I don't think anyone here is cross that people choose to wear fakes. Asserting that owners of the genuine article are upset by owners of fakes is a means of providing validation that buying fakes is a smart move. The availability of fakes does not diminish the pleasure of owning the real thing. Reading this thread I don't see anyone frothing even mildly at the mouth about it.
It's just a bit pathetic that people would choose to spend their money on a fake, rather than choose something more interesting and, frankly better. Something that's not pretending to be something it isn't. Take a look at the "£200", or the "near misses" threads, there's so much more to the world of watches than a snide Rolex.
But's that's a subjective opinion. If people want to wear a fake, that's up to them. I really don't care.
And yes, full disclosure, I did once buy a fake £20 Tag on a lads holiday to Turkey. I bought it because I liked the design, but lacked the funds to buy the real thing. I was thrilled with it for the three weeks it lasted. I'm not that person any more.
And again, whose business is it? These conversations about Rolex and their purity, the brand that is one of the most associated with with thugs and generally unpleasant characters. As for pathetic, it’s pathetic that some think that they can judge others choices, it’s pathetic that some look at the inflated Rolex prices and see value, for what are very simple things, it’s pathetic, generally that the watch connoisseurs, or snobs as they are more correctly termed feel that they can look down their (often grey haired) noses. It's just a bit pathetic that people would choose to spend their money on a fake, rather than choose something more interesting and, frankly better. Something that's not pretending to be something it isn't. Take a look at the "£200", or the "near misses" threads, there's so much more to the world of watches than a snide Rolex.
But's that's a subjective opinion. If people want to wear a fake, that's up to them. I really don't care.
And yes, full disclosure, I did once buy a fake £20 Tag on a lads holiday to Turkey. I bought it because I liked the design, but lacked the funds to buy the real thing. I was thrilled with it for the three weeks it lasted. I'm not that person any more.
It’s likely more the fact that these enthusiasts can’t actually tell the difference
Actually, just seen you have a kit car. You couldn’t make this s
t up 
Edited by carlo996 on Tuesday 13th February 22:09
Presuming Ed said:
popeyewhite said:
Presuming Ed said:
Seems snobbery is alive and well.
It's not snobbery to buy the real thing you fool. 
Presuming Ed said:
Seems snobbery is alive and well. If you can afford multiples of genuine Rolex why do you care if someone buys a fake. If you can only afford a Sekonda but can have a mock watch of your dreams then let them. The fake market isn't going to disappear. I've never bought a fake watch but I did get a load of Lacoste Polo Shirts out of pat pong market.
See? Just reads like a jealous gripe from someone who can't afford a Rolex. You'll get over it. carlo996 said:
And again, whose business is it? These conversations about Rolex and their purity, the brand that is one of the most associated with with thugs and generally unpleasant characters. As for pathetic, it’s pathetic that some think that they can judge others choices, it’s pathetic that some look at the inflated Rolex prices and see value, for what are very simple things, it’s pathetic, generally that the watch connoisseurs, or snobs as they are more correctly termed feel that they can look down their (often grey haired) noses.
It’s likely more the fact that these enthusiasts can’t actually tell the difference
Actually, just seen you have a kit car. You couldn’t make this st up
It’s likely more the fact that these enthusiasts can’t actually tell the difference
Actually, just seen you have a kit car. You couldn’t make this s
t upEdited by carlo996 on Tuesday 13th February 22:09
popeyewhite said:
Presuming Ed said:
popeyewhite said:
Presuming Ed said:
Seems snobbery is alive and well.
It's not snobbery to buy the real thing you fool. Presuming Ed said:
Seems snobbery is alive and well. If you can afford multiples of genuine Rolex why do you care if someone buys a fake. If you can only afford a Sekonda but can have a mock watch of your dreams then let them. The fake market isn't going to disappear. I've never bought a fake watch but I did get a load of Lacoste Polo Shirts out of pat pong market.
See? Just reads like a jealous gripe from someone who can't afford a Rolex. You'll get over it. Wow, do you find you get into a lot of arguments in life and can’t work out why?
I looked into high-end Rolex GMT Master ‘Batman’ replicas recently. They really are quite astonishingly good, way above the level at which a non-expert could tell them apart from the real thing just by looking at & handling them. I believe the ‘Clean Factory’ model with the cloned movement is currently the one to have. Such is their reputation that unscrupulous sellers are even trying to pass off inferior fakes as Clean Factory replicas. Yes, fakes of fakes. Bonkers.
Ultimately, I decided not to, ahem, ‘pull the trigger’ and bought a good homage instead. One of these, in fact : https://www.cwsellors.co.uk/products/davosa-watch-...
It’s fantastic. 98% of a Rolex for 10% of the price. It’s never going to be mistaken for a Rolex by anyone who knows anything about watches, which suits me fine. It’s bigger, chunkier & heavier for a start. Very obviously so when compared side by side. And it obviously has none of the ‘baggage’ which comes with replicas. Definitely the right decision for me.
Ultimately, I decided not to, ahem, ‘pull the trigger’ and bought a good homage instead. One of these, in fact : https://www.cwsellors.co.uk/products/davosa-watch-...
It’s fantastic. 98% of a Rolex for 10% of the price. It’s never going to be mistaken for a Rolex by anyone who knows anything about watches, which suits me fine. It’s bigger, chunkier & heavier for a start. Very obviously so when compared side by side. And it obviously has none of the ‘baggage’ which comes with replicas. Definitely the right decision for me.
Why drop £1,100 when you could get, let's say 95% of the full fat experience, but for £109.99! > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Stainless-Wate...
Regbuser said:
Why drop £1,100 when you could get, let's say 95% of the full fat experience, but for £109.99! > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Stainless-Wate...
"Ok so I've had this watch a week! It's just not worth the £109.The auto movement isn't working! It's turning (sort of) but it stops working within 5 hours or so.
The glass isn't straight so you have to look at an angle to see the date, not a big thing but come on! Surely you can put the glass on straight!!!
It's just not worth the money."
Regbuser said:
Why drop £1,100 when you could get, let's say 95% of the full fat experience, but for £109.99! > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Stainless-Wate...
I haven’t handled one of those, but I assume it wouldn’t be of anything resembling the quality of a Swiss made automatic watch, of whatever brand. Maybe I’m wrong. Regbuser said:
Why drop £1,100 when you could get, let's say 95% of the full fat experience, but for £109.99! > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Stainless-Wate...
I can categorically state that Pagani design watches are hugely inferior in quality to the superclone replicas such as Clean Factory. They aren't even close. jeez, the three responses above - irony bypass alert ! 
so if the principle of fakes/homages has been accepted, then really, it's just a thing, and I present the 'New Famous Brand TEVISE VIP' > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004978387894.h... < all the watch one could ever wish for, for £20 !!
so if the principle of fakes/homages has been accepted, then really, it's just a thing, and I present the 'New Famous Brand TEVISE VIP' > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004978387894.h... < all the watch one could ever wish for, for £20 !!
Presuming Ed said:
popeyewhite said:
Presuming Ed said:
popeyewhite said:
Presuming Ed said:
Seems snobbery is alive and well.
It's not snobbery to buy the real thing you fool. Presuming Ed said:
Seems snobbery is alive and well. If you can afford multiples of genuine Rolex why do you care if someone buys a fake. If you can only afford a Sekonda but can have a mock watch of your dreams then let them. The fake market isn't going to disappear. I've never bought a fake watch but I did get a load of Lacoste Polo Shirts out of pat pong market.
See? Just reads like a jealous gripe from someone who can't afford a Rolex. You'll get over it. Wow, do you find you get into a lot of arguments in life and can’t work out why?
I would never buy a fake as they say buy a good quality practical watch with the money
I have this Eco Drive red arrows that I actually paid £500 for and not the retail price
https://www.firstclasswatches.co.uk/citizen-red-ar...
Far better that any fake watch that will fall to bits in 3 months
I have this Eco Drive red arrows that I actually paid £500 for and not the retail price
https://www.firstclasswatches.co.uk/citizen-red-ar...
Far better that any fake watch that will fall to bits in 3 months
In 2003 I admired a GMT Coke worn by a colleague.
But £2,500 was a lot of money to drop on a new watch (insert :SMILEY so I bought a fake GMT Coke in Thailand for £25 to see if I did actually did want one. Bought the real thing two weeks later. The fake is worth £0. The real thing has been the equivalent of a 10% savings account.
But £2,500 was a lot of money to drop on a new watch (insert :SMILEY
so I bought a fake GMT Coke in Thailand for £25 to see if I did actually did want one. Bought the real thing two weeks later. The fake is worth £0. The real thing has been the equivalent of a 10% savings account.I haven’t read the whole thread and I guess it has derailed a bit from the OP original question. But I try to come back to it:
About three years ago I bought a high end vintage Tudor Snowflake Submariner (7016) replica. IIRC it had some minor genuine parts why some might refer to it as a Frankenstein or Assemblage, but it was just a fake.
I was quite deep into the whole replica thing and spent hours on designated forums, this is also where I bought the watch. It was fascinating to have a nerd like following with people being absolutely anal about the most minor details.
I wrote a thread in PH about it as well
In the end, I sold the watch quite soon after purchase to an other forum member, only for a small loss. I was fascinated while hunting for the watch and getting into the subject. But once the watch was on my wrist, it didn’t feel right.
Just last month I bought a (real) Pelagos 39, the 7016’s grandchild, and I absolutely love it
If you don’t want, or simply can’t afford the real thing, there is a simple solution: Seiko
Fantastic watches and a great heritage for a fraction of Omega or Rolex costs.
About three years ago I bought a high end vintage Tudor Snowflake Submariner (7016) replica. IIRC it had some minor genuine parts why some might refer to it as a Frankenstein or Assemblage, but it was just a fake.
I was quite deep into the whole replica thing and spent hours on designated forums, this is also where I bought the watch. It was fascinating to have a nerd like following with people being absolutely anal about the most minor details.
I wrote a thread in PH about it as well
In the end, I sold the watch quite soon after purchase to an other forum member, only for a small loss. I was fascinated while hunting for the watch and getting into the subject. But once the watch was on my wrist, it didn’t feel right.
Just last month I bought a (real) Pelagos 39, the 7016’s grandchild, and I absolutely love it
If you don’t want, or simply can’t afford the real thing, there is a simple solution: Seiko
Fantastic watches and a great heritage for a fraction of Omega or Rolex costs.
Filibuster said:
I haven’t read the whole thread and I guess it has derailed a bit from the OP original question. But I try to come back to it:
About three years ago I bought a high end vintage Tudor Snowflake Submariner (7016) replica. IIRC it had some minor genuine parts why some might refer to it as a Frankenstein or Assemblage, but it was just a fake.
I was quite deep into the whole replica thing and spent hours on designated forums, this is also where I bought the watch. It was fascinating to have a nerd like following with people being absolutely anal about the most minor details.
I wrote a thread in PH about it as well
In the end, I sold the watch quite soon after purchase to an other forum member, only for a small loss. I was fascinated while hunting for the watch and getting into the subject. But once the watch was on my wrist, it didn’t feel right.
Just last month I bought a (real) Pelagos 39, the 7016’s grandchild, and I absolutely love it
If you don’t want, or simply can’t afford the real thing, there is a simple solution: Seiko
Fantastic watches and a great heritage for a fraction of Omega or Rolex costs.
I agree and there is another one that hardly gets mentioned on here that I love and that's Festina About three years ago I bought a high end vintage Tudor Snowflake Submariner (7016) replica. IIRC it had some minor genuine parts why some might refer to it as a Frankenstein or Assemblage, but it was just a fake.
I was quite deep into the whole replica thing and spent hours on designated forums, this is also where I bought the watch. It was fascinating to have a nerd like following with people being absolutely anal about the most minor details.
I wrote a thread in PH about it as well
In the end, I sold the watch quite soon after purchase to an other forum member, only for a small loss. I was fascinated while hunting for the watch and getting into the subject. But once the watch was on my wrist, it didn’t feel right.
Just last month I bought a (real) Pelagos 39, the 7016’s grandchild, and I absolutely love it
If you don’t want, or simply can’t afford the real thing, there is a simple solution: Seiko
Fantastic watches and a great heritage for a fraction of Omega or Rolex costs.
Countdown said:
Do wearers of genuine Rolex/Omega wear them to impress people?
The answer (that few people will openly admit) is "Yes they do". It says "I have spent lots of money on a watch, I am rich!". And it's upsetting to them when somebody else creates the same impression for only a few hundred quid.
If people were wearing Rolex et al because they appreciated the quality, engineering, workmanship then it would matter not a jot if somebody else was wearing a fake. Wearing a fake doesnt affect the enjoyment of quality/engineering etc, the only thing it dilutes is the image.
Just surfing through the site I cam across the above post and it got me thinking.The answer (that few people will openly admit) is "Yes they do". It says "I have spent lots of money on a watch, I am rich!". And it's upsetting to them when somebody else creates the same impression for only a few hundred quid.
If people were wearing Rolex et al because they appreciated the quality, engineering, workmanship then it would matter not a jot if somebody else was wearing a fake. Wearing a fake doesnt affect the enjoyment of quality/engineering etc, the only thing it dilutes is the image.
My impression of this forum is that its mainly populated by young men working in London, competitive in financial terms, and measuring up each other on the basis of watches , cars, flats / houses, jobs etc. Its the Harry Enfield " loads of Money" world. But would they admit that - no they wouldnt. They buy a Rolex or the like because of an appreciation of fine watchmaking and the engineering involved. Bit like the Porker owner who appreciates the build of a 911 but in reality doesnt know a camshaft from a conrod and goes on reputation alone.
So yes. Countdown is right.
bordseye said:
Just surfing through the site I cam across the above post and it got me thinking.
My impression of this forum is that its mainly populated by young men working in London, competitive in financial terms, and measuring up each other on the basis of watches , cars, flats / houses, jobs etc. Its the Harry Enfield " loads of Money" world. But would they admit that - no they wouldnt. They buy a Rolex or the like because of an appreciation of fine watchmaking and the engineering involved. Bit like the Porker owner who appreciates the build of a 911 but in reality doesnt know a camshaft from a conrod and goes on reputation alone.
So yes. Countdown is right.
I dont think it is mostly young men Some are but many of us on here are very much older with grown up children and houses that are paid allowing us to be able to buy and do the tings that we would have liked when we were younger My impression of this forum is that its mainly populated by young men working in London, competitive in financial terms, and measuring up each other on the basis of watches , cars, flats / houses, jobs etc. Its the Harry Enfield " loads of Money" world. But would they admit that - no they wouldnt. They buy a Rolex or the like because of an appreciation of fine watchmaking and the engineering involved. Bit like the Porker owner who appreciates the build of a 911 but in reality doesnt know a camshaft from a conrod and goes on reputation alone.
So yes. Countdown is right.
When your a 55 yo bloke you might have a nice watch /car /house but the days of impressing people have long gone due to aging body!
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