Accuracy of an automatic?

Accuracy of an automatic?

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thebraketester

14,232 posts

138 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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My planet ocean seems to be running about 6-7 seconds fast over about 3 weeks. Had it serviced about 4-5 months ago and it has settled down as it was running quite fast to start with.

TheAngryDog

12,407 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th March 2017
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My Tag Heuer 2000 series gains 5 mins a day. I need to get it serviced.

traffman

2,263 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th March 2017
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A ten pound Casio will allways be more accurate than almost any automatic. Knowing theres a beautifully machined movement beating away in a proper watch allways wins my heart hands down.

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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andy97 said:
GC8 said:
Two minutes out after a fortnight is pretty good for a cheap automatic. That is about +/- 8 seconds a day! You are mistaken if you arent satisfied with that.
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Sure, but the point is that my original CW C60 was about 2 mins fast in 3 days.

Currently wearing and monitoring the replacement.
Just to update things, CW replaced my watch rather than repair the original.

I have worn the replacement every day for 7 days and it has been taken off at night. Activities have usually been office based, although I have also worn it whilst walking the dogs and playing golf!

I have not adjusted the watch at all since setting it on arrival and it is now 32 secs slow, or about 4.5 secs per day. That is well within tolerance and I'm very happy with that.

CardShark

4,194 posts

179 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Good result. CW sometimes gets some stick for its pricing strategy and the homage/rip-off accusations however their customer service never appears to be in doubt.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Will possibly improve and you may find that simply laying it in a different position at night will make up for the shortfall...

TheAngryDog

12,407 posts

209 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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CardShark said:
Good result. CW sometimes gets some stick for its pricing strategy and the homage/rip-off accusations however their customer service never appears to be in doubt.
Why do they get stick over their pricing strategy? I like the look of CW divers watches.

CardShark

4,194 posts

179 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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TheAngryDog said:
Why do they get stick over their pricing strategy? I like the look of CW divers watches.
Possibly poorly worded on my part as, in my limited hands on experience with CW watches, they offer good specs for the money though, perhaps unfairly, they have also have been labelled by some to be the DFS of the watch world. Their watches are often discounted, they've gone through some image changes in the last few years so there's nearly always older models to be moved on. Like a particular model and not in a rush? Wait until it's in a sale.

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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It's now 1 min slow after 2 weeks, so maintaining its 4-4.5 secs a day slow accuracy. Still happy.

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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andy97 said:
andy97 said:
GC8 said:
Two minutes out after a fortnight is pretty good for a cheap automatic. That is about +/- 8 seconds a day! You are mistaken if you arent satisfied with that.
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Sure, but the point is that my original CW C60 was about 2 mins fast in 3 days.

Currently wearing and monitoring the replacement.
Just to update things, CW replaced my watch rather than repair the original.

I have worn the replacement every day for 7 days and it has been taken off at night. Activities have usually been office based, although I have also worn it whilst walking the dogs and playing golf!

I have not adjusted the watch at all since setting it on arrival and it is now 32 secs slow, or about 4.5 secs per day. That is well within tolerance and I'm very happy with that.
Another update.

My replacement CW C60 is still working ok, but my C7 (Quartz) has had to go back after 7 months because the second hand stuck between 27 secs and 29 secs past and just cycled between the two without being able to move past this point and make a full rotation. The watch therefore effectively stopped even though it was obviously still trying to work.

Very annoying.

I sent it back to CW who offered a repair, as they are entitled to do. I requested a refund but they refused as it was outside the 60:60 period and outside the 6 months covered by consumer law. I have no choice but to accept the repaired watch back (it arrives tomorrow) but, having had both of the Christopher Ward watches that I have bought suffer malfunctions, I have lost confidence in the brand.

Not sure I even want to bother wearing the C7 again and I await further failures!

Not happy.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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You do have a choice. The six month deadline is when the onus moves from them to prove not, to you to prove that the fault was there from manufacture. On a 7mth sealed watch how could they hope to defend their position?

Insanity Magnet

616 posts

153 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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andy97 said:
Another update.

My replacement CW C60 is still working ok, but my C7 (Quartz) has had to go back after 7 months because the second hand stuck between 27 secs and 29 secs past and just cycled between the two without being able to move past this point and make a full rotation. The watch therefore effectively stopped even though it was obviously still trying to work.

Very annoying.

I sent it back to CW who offered a repair, as they are entitled to do. I requested a refund but they refused as it was outside the 60:60 period and outside the 6 months covered by consumer law. I have no choice but to accept the repaired watch back (it arrives tomorrow) but, having had both of the Christopher Ward watches that I have bought suffer malfunctions, I have lost confidence in the brand.

Not sure I even want to bother wearing the C7 again and I await further failures!

Not happy.
A shame that you are having a bad experience with CW.

I have a C5 MKii aviator currently running at +1s a day. Has been as low as +1s a week for a period of a few months (before clouting it on the refrigerator). Really pleased with this as averaging about +15s per day for the first few years and then I ran it through a cheap eBay sourced demagnetiser...


Benjijames28

1,702 posts

92 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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My watch is a Tudor Pelagos v1 with the modified ETA movement.

From the factory it ran at +1 second per day, eventually it slowed down due to a knock, sent it to Rolex for regulation under warranty and since then it's ran at +4 per day.

Very happy with that, I don't even think about it.

DJMC

3,438 posts

103 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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+2 seconds after 4 weeks.

smile

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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That's because your usage pattern matches the movement very well. In 1992-1993 my automatic TAG Heuer 4000 only gained a couple of second between the clocks going forward and going back. Sounds fantastic but another user may have experience very different results with the same watch.

NDA

21,574 posts

225 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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I have always worn automatic watches - apart from when I travel - and I have never watched the seconds for accuracy. 'Is the minute hand on the beeps?' is something I maybe check once every 10 days or so and it generally is.

If you want total accuracy, down to the second, don't buy an automatic - that's not really their purpose.

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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NDA said:
I have always worn automatic watches - apart from when I travel - and I have never watched the seconds for accuracy. 'Is the minute hand on the beeps?' is something I maybe check once every 10 days or so and it generally is.

If you want total accuracy, down to the second, don't buy an automatic - that's not really their purpose.
My comments on this thread have not been about total accuracy, but it is reasonable to expect that watches perform within their advertised +/- accuracy. Neither did, and one was totally stopped after just 7 months!