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lowdrag

12,901 posts

214 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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Did you follow through on that TZ article and watch the video CF? Not brilliant really, but amazing technology.Since it doesn't have a battery but uses electricity, I've decided to call the movement quautomatic.

cyberface

12,214 posts

258 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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lowdrag said:
Did you follow through on that TZ article and watch the video CF? Not brilliant really, but amazing technology.Since it doesn't have a battery but uses electricity, I've decided to call the movement quautomatic.
Nope - I was hoping to find a list of innovations (I'm pretty sure they invented something called the 'magic lever' as well which was a breakthrough, but I'm still learning all this stuff!) - will watch the video this evening!

Definitely like the sound of the Spring Drive though. Will be doing some investigations into these...

Wadeski

8,163 posts

214 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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new Seiko "Phoenix" automatic chorono....costs about a grand, but what a looker!

CmdrBond

709 posts

200 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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£600 quid less than a Tag Carrera, wish you hadn't shown me that now!!!!

When is it going on sale??

Wadeski

8,163 posts

214 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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its on sale now, but JDM only.

Higuchi-inc or seiya will hook you up. Very good stores, i bought my Ti Seiko Alpinist from there.


cyberface

12,214 posts

258 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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Woah. There's a Spring Drive chrono available, with sapphire crystal back... damn fine looking watch as well as being a *proper* innovation... allegedly Goldsmiths sell them but I can't find them on the website.

Any idea what sort of money we're talking? I guess this is the flagship of the Spring Drive range, but hell, they're not taking the piss with that. Sounds like all the benefits of both approaches, and if they've got a sapphire caseback then they've probably decorated the movement as well, could be a thing of beauty.

Anyone here got one?

Wadeski

8,163 posts

214 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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they aren't cheap...about four grand afaik. also very rare!

there have been a few SD chronos...



this years:



there are a few more Grand Seiko SD chronos as well, plus the dive watches and the SD Moonphases (the best, imho!)

Edited by Wadeski on Monday 30th June 17:15

CmdrBond

709 posts

200 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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There is only one place I have seen them in the metal and that is a jeweller in Newark, and for the life of me I cannot remember the name.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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BigWithey said:


I've just ordered a "Black Monster" cool
Me too!

Got the "we saw you were in, so we snuck the card through the letterbox to avoid delivering it" card today.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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blueST said:
paulrandall said:
It's not kinetic, just plain old battery, but its still a nice watch, with enough change from £200 to buy a G-Shock for everyday bashing around.
I too spent a few quid on a Seiko this year and am now in the market for a an Black/Orange Monster or a G shock.

Of the G-shocks, I really like the Master of G range. Have a look at the Mudman, Gulfman and Riseman. I would love all of them. Plus a 25th Anniversary Dawn Black Frogman, but they are stupid money.
For daily wear, I like the Cockpit series. I've got one of the orange-faced ones at the moment - it leads a hard life without visible complaint. I quite fancy one of the chunkier WaveCeptors, like this:

blueST

4,400 posts

217 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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CommanderJameson said:
blueST said:
paulrandall said:
It's not kinetic, just plain old battery, but its still a nice watch, with enough change from £200 to buy a G-Shock for everyday bashing around.
I too spent a few quid on a Seiko this year and am now in the market for a an Black/Orange Monster or a G shock.

Of the G-shocks, I really like the Master of G range. Have a look at the Mudman, Gulfman and Riseman. I would love all of them. Plus a 25th Anniversary Dawn Black Frogman, but they are stupid money.
For daily wear, I like the Cockpit series. I've got one of the orange-faced ones at the moment - it leads a hard life without visible complaint. I quite fancy one of the chunkier WaveCeptors, like this:


I'm wearing my cockpit now, I've had it a long time and it's a bit worn round the edges but I still like it.



Do like that WaveCeptor too.

Edited by blueST on Monday 30th June 22:24

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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paulrandall said:
Heres a close up pic, as the standard image doesnt look the same:

That's one handsome timepiece. I really like that. Good choice!

blueST

4,400 posts

217 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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cyberface said:
....(I'm pretty sure they invented something called the 'magic lever' as well which was a breakthrough, but I'm still learning all this stuff!)....
Picture of the Magic Lever for those that haven't seen one. It basically ensures the main spring gets wound no matter which way the rotor turns. It's the delicate looking double clawed item the centre.


lowdrag

12,901 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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A frank admission here; I've had numerous Seikos during my life but always thought they were "just another brand" so to speak, better that Timex but that serious watchmakers were Swiss. Yes, they were good enough but I had no idea until this thread started just how innovative Seiko are and I am in awe of the Spring Drive model, especially it's accuracy. It seems to me that if Seiko had, just as Toyota formed Lexus, created another name for their upper market watches then they would have created a niche market. Showing my ignorance here but then life is a learning curve which never stops. A parabola morelike really.

BigWithey

565 posts

231 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Arrived this morning! Only ordered on Saturday, very impressed with it, it looks and feels great. I must dig out my first "proper" watch, an automatic Seiko that I got about 1979/80 when I was 14/15.

Civpilot

6,235 posts

241 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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blueST said:
Of the G-shocks, I really like the Master of G range. Have a look at the Mudman, Gulfman and Riseman. I would love all of them. Plus a 25th Anniversary Dawn Black Frogman, but they are stupid money.
Keep looking for the Black Dawn, I managed to find oe for reasonable money a while back. Proper first Japanese model complete with "carbon" box and original recipts. Bargins are out there.

I've also got a Mudman andit isa great bit of kit, just need a waveceptor now smile

lowdrag

12,901 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Like the man says in th advert, this is style, pure style. That second hand is class. Rather like my question as to second hand value, this is selling new at half price. A real bargain IMHO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEIKO-Spring-Drive-Galante-Lux...


paulrandall

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377 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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CommanderJameson said:
That's one handsome timepiece. I really like that. Good choice!
Thanks! I was pretty pleased too. I usually take ages to choose anything, but saw this immediately and loved it

blueST

4,400 posts

217 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Civpilot said:
blueST said:
Of the G-shocks, I really like the Master of G range. Have a look at the Mudman, Gulfman and Riseman. I would love all of them. Plus a 25th Anniversary Dawn Black Frogman, but they are stupid money.
Keep looking for the Black Dawn, I managed to find oe for reasonable money a while back. Proper first Japanese model complete with "carbon" box and original recipts. Bargins are out there.

I've also got a Mudman andit isa great bit of kit, just need a waveceptor now smile
Could you give me an idea of what you paid, and from where? I've really set my heart on the the Dawn Black version, and like yours, it must have the correct carbon box and paperwork. I can't see me considering buying one unless it was under £200. If it wasn't absolutely spanking new and untouched I'd want a chunk off that. Do you think this is realistic? Some of the older versions, which aren't solar seem to go for under £100.

The cheapest I've seen is about £230 at a UK online shop but I've not inquired as to if it has all the right boxes and stuff. All the ones on Ebay are "buy it now" and at £240 plus.

blueST

4,400 posts

217 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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lowdrag said:
......It seems to me that if Seiko had, just as Toyota formed Lexus, created another name for their upper market watches then they would have created a niche market.....
They've sort of half achieved it with the Grand Seiko name (All high end, different logo etc) but they're not marketed in these parts. I think the difficulty with introducing a new Lexus type brand to the watch world is that all the top names trade heavily on their history.

One thing that puzzles me, is why Seiko make such a bewildering array low and midrange watches. Even the company itself doesn't seem to know what it makes, there are heaps of models that are not on any of the company's websites. On top of this, there seems to be no logic as to which watches are sold where. Why for example, don't Seiko import/sell any of there many excellent diver's watches in the UK? I know you can buy them here but they seem to be grey imports, or whatever the watch equivalent is.