Nazi admin on TZ...

[Toshi]

GC8 said:

I see. Im not even sure whether I should do that: the reason being that if I dont make any real progress, then what do I do? I dont want to mention it on H&V because even though its not as described, that seems excessive: it was honestly photographed and described in other respects and I arrived as promised. I cant really insist on the cost of a service, because this will cost 75% of the cost of the piece, but I dont want to pay myself for the same reason. The watch only made sense if it was running as stated.

Hi GC8
If I were you I'd PM the seller of the watch & explain the issue with timekeeping. Whenever I sell a watch I'd hate to think the buyer was unhappy with anything, and certainly would hope that if he (or she) was they would contact me about it. If it's a mechanical watch it may have taken a bump during delivery which could have caused the problem, but I certainly think the seller should be made aware of any issue you have.

I certainly wouldn't mention it on H&V until you've discussed it with the seller.

BTW - a mechanical service will cost in the region of £40 (contact me if you need a recommendation for someone honest & capable), but you might find if it was recently serviced that the guy who serviced it would take a look free of charge (most watch repairers will guarantee their work for 6 months)

Good luck
Rich

[GC8]

Hello Rich. Thanks for your reply (and thank you to the other posters too). I wouldnt dream of mentioning the issue on H&V without having contacted the vendor first, sorry if I wasnt clear there. My point was that Im not sure whether itd ever be worth mentioning (I suspect that it is an impossible problem, due to the value of the piece and the costs involved), even if we cant reach a resolution, or even if he simply doesnt GAF!

I always use/recommend Brian at Time Repairs in Bolton and he quotes £70 for an automatic Tissot. If youre personally familiar with somewhere cheaper in price and equal in quality then Id be very interested to hear. I d be curious to know what they charged for manual (with and without date) and automatic Omegas and also an Omega Chronostop (usually described as single button chronograph).

Seeing as youre here: if I had my own buckles, am I right in thinking that you could make me a strap in any width fitting? Its mostly 18mms that Im looking for...

[Maxf]

How do you know it is an impossible problem without talking to him? If it was me I'd either let you send it back or pay for you to get it fixed, but I wouldnt be able to do that without knowing!

[Toshi]

GC8 said:

Hello Rich. Thanks for your reply (and thank you to the other posters too). I wouldnt dream of mentioning the issue on H&V without having contacted the vendor first, sorry if I wasnt clear there. My point was that Im not sure whether itd ever be worth mentioning (I suspect that it is an impossible problem, due to the value of the piece and the costs involved), even if we cant reach a resolution, or even if he simply doesnt GAF!

I always use/recommend Brian at Time Repairs in Bolton and he quotes £70 for an automatic Tissot. If youre personally familiar with somewhere cheaper in price and equal in quality then Id be very interested to hear. I d be curious to know what they charged for manual (with and without date) and automatic Omegas and also an Omega Chronostop (usually described as single button chronograph).

Seeing as youre here: if I had my own buckles, am I right in thinking that you could make me a strap in any width fitting? Its mostly 18mms that Im looking for...

I use two people with my watches - Paul Wirdnam in Brighton (specialises in electric watches, but also services mechanicals - charges £35 for non-chrono and £45 for a chrono. Plus any parts required obviously) and Steve Burrage in Leicester (his prices are about the same, maybe slightly higher). I'd recommend either.

As for the straps, yes. Email me to discuss it if you want to

[GC8]

Maxf said:

How do you know it is an impossible problem without talking to him? If it was me I'd either let you send it back or pay for you to get it fixed, but I wouldnt be able to do that without knowing!

Impossible to resolve due to the costs. As my own watchmaker is a bit minty, I may be able to strike a balance using either of the people recommended by Rich above.

Rich: Im confident that it will not be an issue, seeing as Im asking you. I'll email you when Ive had everything serviced. Thanks for the advice re alternative watchmakers. I will contact them and take it from there.

[GC8]

Im struggling to find contact details for Paul Wirdnam, can you point me in the right direction please?

[krusty]

This is interesting as there was a thread a week or so ago on TZ about PH's watch forum. Personally I think TZ is an informative place if you're in the market for a watch. I find the sales section odd though, the whole 'I'm not bonding with this' what a crock. Buy a watch, wear it for six months and then out it for the same money. Saying that I'd have never stumbled across Toshi straps so everything has it's + points

[anonymous-user]

krusty said:

I find the sales section odd though, the whole 'I'm not bonding with this' what a crock. Buy a watch, wear it for six months and then out it for the same money.

So true. "All I want is what I paid for it" - I bet you do.

Then all their mates run in and post "I can't believe this hasn't sold yet!" and stuff like , "wow is this still here? I'd buy it myself but it i've sold it twice already on here" . . . . "Free bump, this watch is a great price etc"

It's still one of the best and most trusted places to buy watches on the net.

I wouldn't venture out of the watch forums though.

Edited by el stovey on Saturday 22 August 07:33

[whoami]

el stovey said:

krusty said:

I find the sales section odd though, the whole 'I'm not bonding with this' what a crock. Buy a watch, wear it for six months and then out it for the same money.

So true. "All I want is what I paid for it" - I bet you do.

Then all their mates run in and post "I can't believe this hasn't sold yet!" and stuff like , "wow is this still here? I'd buy it myself but it i've sold it twice already on here" . . . . "Free bump, this watch is a great price etc"

It's still one of the best and most trusted places to buy watches on the net.

I wouldn't venture out of the watch forums though.

Edited by el stovey on Saturday 22 August 07:33

I love those quotes.

A favourite from this morning

"Lovely watch priced far too low IMHO"

[Maxf]

Still for sale though

[whoami]

Maxf said:

Still for sale though

Maybe, but if I hadn't just committed to that new 747/Zonda F combo, it would have been mine.

[glazbagun]

Heh. Yeah, I find the "A friendly place to discuss watches without oppressive moderation" tagline a little ironic, too. I've been there a little over a year & ~500 posts, and have generally found it a friendly enough place. A little too many "look! I've put my watch on a new strap!" posts for my tastes, but that can hardly be a criticism of a group of self-confessed watch nuts. I've bought a watch from a member in the sales corner and agree that it's a pretty trustworthy place to deal with, as far as forums go, and I enjoyed the place a great deal but moderation's driven me off, too.

On a slow day when someone was complaining/pondering about the forum not being as much fun as it once was, I cut/pasted a surreal, if admittedly a bit rubbish, joke someone had posted on facebook which appealed to me and went about my business. I popped back later to find that Eddie (first reply) didnt get it, nor did others, and some felt that it was spam or something even more sinister. I swear it got more responses of indignation and confusion than some of the best jokes ever have got praise.

I had a PM waiting for me from Eddie telling me that he didn't find my joke funny and informing me that I'd be gone if I "did it again". Nice to have been given a warning rather than a ban, I guess, but I don't see the point in expending further time/energy in a forum if my account can be closed down after a year with something so unpredictable as two poorly recieved jokes, so I apologised to Eddie that my sense of humour was so opaque, apologised to any who may not have got the joke in the thread, made a stab at explaining why the joke was funny (surely the strangest of excercises!) and took my leave.

I've not been back since, but I assume I've been banned or had my account reset/adjusted somehow because I have a PM alert and a "Welcome to TZ-UK: Account Activated" email sitting in my inbox. Whatever's happened is unfortunate, because I liked the place, but as I posted above- what's the point of posting if the admin can see fit to kick you off for any triviality he takes a personal dislike to? I'm sure they'll get on just smashing without me, and wouldn't discourage people from joining up for on-topic/sales corner reasons, but from a web-community point of view, the moderation makes it pointless, despite the many interesting characters.

All IMHO, YMMV, of course.

Edited by glazbagun on Saturday 22 August 21:59

[benny.c]

^^^^ Was that was the "joke" about seeing someone being killed from a bus?

Because it was fking terrible and I must admit I did think you were a bit odd

[Maxf]

benny.c said:

^^^^ Was that was the "joke" about seeing someone being killed from a bus?

Because it was fking terrible and I must admit I did think you were a bit odd

What was it? I have an odd sense of humour...

[benny.c]

Maxf said:

What was it? I have an odd sense of humour...

Can't remember now. It was a long rambling thing that wasn't a joke as such. Can't find it now so maybe it was deleted.

Edited by benny.c on Saturday 22 August 23:16

[glazbagun]

benny.c said:

^^^^ Was that was the "joke" about seeing someone being killed from a bus?

Because it was fking terrible and I must admit I did think you were a bit odd

That was the one. Although the joke wasn't really the bit about someone dying, but more the sort of inverted anti-humour you get when you've been led up the garden path. Like I said, I didn't expect accolades of comic genius (or even a reply apart from the odd "groan" at having had a minute of your life wasted), and didnt give it a minutes thought until I came back to find the thread two pages long. In hindsight I should probably have expected that it would go down like a lead balloon. I could maybe even see it being locked- I've had a thread locked on PH in the past thanks to my dumb sense of humour, but having the ban-stick waved at me after 1/500th of my posting content over a year wasn't my flavour of moderation.

Like I said above, though- each to their own, try everything once, etc. I certainly wouldnt discourage anyone from signing up on TZ-UK.

[benny.c]

glazbagun said:

That was the one. Although the joke wasn't really the bit about someone dying, but more the sort of inverted anti-humour you get when you've been led up the garden path.

I still don't get it

[andy tims]

No forum is perfect & if people are going to start crying about occasionally getting a bit of stick, they should forget forums altogether.

I frequent several watch forums & TZ-UK is the one I like the most. It's VERY LIGHTLY regulated / moderated, full of knowlegeable people and trustworthy buyers & sellers.
People who just visit to buy or sell don't go down too well, but otherwise you should be fine.

[ShadownINja]

glazbagun said:

two poorly recieved jokes, so I apologised to Eddie that my sense of humour was so opaque, apologised to any who may not have got the joke in the thread, made a stab at explaining why the joke was funny (surely the strangest of excercises!) and took my leave.

Did you do the one about "screwing like a Chinaman", too? I don't think it was funny even in the original film it appeared in. Not offensive (being a "Chinaman") but not funny. More like a daft statement of fact; I suppose there is humour in that but I think the fact that I am analysing it proves a point here.

[ShadownINja]

el stovey said:

krusty said:

I find the sales section odd though, the whole 'I'm not bonding with this' what a crock. Buy a watch, wear it for six months and then out it for the same money.

So true. "All I want is what I paid for it" - I bet you do.

Then all their mates run in and post "I can't believe this hasn't sold yet!" and stuff like , "wow is this still here? I'd buy it myself but it i've sold it twice already on here" . . . . "Free bump, this watch is a great price etc"

It's still one of the best and most trusted places to buy watches on the net.

I wouldn't venture out of the watch forums though.

Edited by el stovey on Saturday 22 August 07:33

I once made the mistake of posting a negative reply to a watch ad. Admittedly, that was a bit of a rude thing to do.

I do find the "firm" sales amusing. Just wait... ... ... not so firm.

I think you just have to go with the flow or buy from ebay.

Edited by ShadownINja on Sunday 23 August 08:40