Rolex purchase
Discussion
Hi all,
I have narrowed my search for a new watch down to a GMT II or a submariner, both in steel with a black face.
There does not seem to me to be much to choose between them, but I wondered whether there was a collective wisdom on which would make the better purchase. I don't need the functionality of the GMT II, and I appreciate that this is entirely subjective. That said, the views of those that know about these things would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I have narrowed my search for a new watch down to a GMT II or a submariner, both in steel with a black face.
There does not seem to me to be much to choose between them, but I wondered whether there was a collective wisdom on which would make the better purchase. I don't need the functionality of the GMT II, and I appreciate that this is entirely subjective. That said, the views of those that know about these things would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Slightly biased - but the GMT II with ceramic dial is awesome. The latest GMT was up-spec'd 2 years ago, and has the new Daytona strap and squarer clasp shoulders. I read a magazine article just last week that t he submariner is (or has) just been given the same treatment.
I think i'm right in saying that ther're less GMT's than Sub's? But will stand corrected!!
Graham
I think i'm right in saying that ther're less GMT's than Sub's? But will stand corrected!!
Graham
The ceramic bezels are very nice it has to be said. I only like the sports models to be honest and have had an Explorer II for years. The quality of the buckle etc is also much more solid than the older models. It's an honest watch but its price is crazy nowadays I think.
Submariner is a classic, GMTII is just as good a watch though.
- Sub more recognisable as a Rolex, + but doesn't scream it
- that's a chunk of change, + but you do get good quality
- servicing costly*, + mine looks new after ten years constantly on the wrist.
Either will resell fairly well I'd say, just get the one you're happy with most (for whatever reason!), both are a a safe bet.
Submariner is a classic, GMTII is just as good a watch though.
- Sub more recognisable as a Rolex, + but doesn't scream it
- that's a chunk of change, + but you do get good quality
- servicing costly*, + mine looks new after ten years constantly on the wrist.
Either will resell fairly well I'd say, just get the one you're happy with most (for whatever reason!), both are a a safe bet.
- - Well, count £3-400 every 5-7 years I'd say.
Both great watches. The steel sub hasn't been updated yet but will do next year. So will get a ceramic bezel, maxi dial, new style thicker case and solid link bracelet with glidelock clasp. I reckon it'll be a good idea to get one of the last old style subs as they will be sought after in a few years.
9005rpm said:
Am I right to assume that the is a 0% chance of a discount?
I don't think a Rolex dealer will budge on price. I bought my Sub date from Ancient and Modern Jewellers in December and paid £3100 for it. Today a Sub's RRP is £3740 but Ancient and Modern have one on ebay for £3495. When I bought mine I managed to get a few pounds off the ebay price. I got very good service from them.Edited by Jer_1974 on Wednesday 4th November 21:03
Jer_1974 said:
9005rpm said:
Am I right to assume that the is a 0% chance of a discount?
I don't think a Rolex dealer will budge on price. I bought my Sub date from Ancient and Modern Jewellers in December and paid £3100 for it. Today a Sub's RRP is £3740 but Ancient and Modern have one on ebay for £3495. When I bought mine I managed to get a few pounds off the ebay price. I got very good service from them.Edited by Jer_1974 on Wednesday 4th November 21:03
jshell said:
Jer_1974 said:
9005rpm said:
Am I right to assume that the is a 0% chance of a discount?
I don't think a Rolex dealer will budge on price. I bought my Sub date from Ancient and Modern Jewellers in December and paid £3100 for it. Today a Sub's RRP is £3740 but Ancient and Modern have one on ebay for £3495. When I bought mine I managed to get a few pounds off the ebay price. I got very good service from them.Edited by Jer_1974 on Wednesday 4th November 21:03
Mr MoJo said:
jshell said:
Jer_1974 said:
9005rpm said:
Am I right to assume that the is a 0% chance of a discount?
I don't think a Rolex dealer will budge on price. I bought my Sub date from Ancient and Modern Jewellers in December and paid £3100 for it. Today a Sub's RRP is £3740 but Ancient and Modern have one on ebay for £3495. When I bought mine I managed to get a few pounds off the ebay price. I got very good service from them.Edited by Jer_1974 on Wednesday 4th November 21:03
Jer_1974 said:
Mr MoJo said:
jshell said:
Jer_1974 said:
9005rpm said:
Am I right to assume that the is a 0% chance of a discount?
I don't think a Rolex dealer will budge on price. I bought my Sub date from Ancient and Modern Jewellers in December and paid £3100 for it. Today a Sub's RRP is £3740 but Ancient and Modern have one on ebay for £3495. When I bought mine I managed to get a few pounds off the ebay price. I got very good service from them.Edited by Jer_1974 on Wednesday 4th November 21:03
Incredible Sulk said:
Jer_1974 said:
Mr MoJo said:
jshell said:
Jer_1974 said:
9005rpm said:
Am I right to assume that the is a 0% chance of a discount?
I don't think a Rolex dealer will budge on price. I bought my Sub date from Ancient and Modern Jewellers in December and paid £3100 for it. Today a Sub's RRP is £3740 but Ancient and Modern have one on ebay for £3495. When I bought mine I managed to get a few pounds off the ebay price. I got very good service from them.Edited by Jer_1974 on Wednesday 4th November 21:03
Jazzer77 said:
Im thinking of a Submariner , S/S dateless.
Independant jewellers on ebay has a new unworn one up at 3,095 , cost new 3,390.(Sorry my keyboard has no pound key today!).
Any idea of what discount would be reasonable to expect at an official dealer?
I'd be looking for 10% absolute minimum or I'd walk to the next shop. Managed about 17% on the wife's TT DJ - if I remember correctly.Independant jewellers on ebay has a new unworn one up at 3,095 , cost new 3,390.(Sorry my keyboard has no pound key today!).
Any idea of what discount would be reasonable to expect at an official dealer?
I really think the trick is to tell them you're ready to buy that day! They get so many browsers, dreamers and people who just want to have a Rolex on their wrists for a few minutes.
Jazzer77 said:
Thanks for the quick reply , if offered 17% I'd buy there and then.
I know the bi-metal ones can be bought with more discount but really prefer the clean uncluttered look of the ss dateless.
/Sorry to the o/p for the slight thread hijack
You're right: OP - The GMT any day of the week! I know the bi-metal ones can be bought with more discount but really prefer the clean uncluttered look of the ss dateless.
/Sorry to the o/p for the slight thread hijack
Jaz, I wouldn't buy TT for myself now, but I think it suits the ladies in terms of 'dress watch' better than SS.
Between the GMT and the Sub, I'd have the Sub every day of the week.
In terms of discount, I picked up a Bi-Metal DateJust for my dad's 60th birthday in August. Specially ordered with a very specific dial (as the AD didnt have that piece in stock and I wanted a fresh example without having the dial changed out) and managed to wangle 20% discount off RRP. Excellent service from the AD and the watch turned up within 2 weeks.
Looked at an SS Sub at the time of buying the Datejust and the AD was offering the same %age discount on that too. Decided I had spent enough money in one day and left it at that.
In terms of discount, I picked up a Bi-Metal DateJust for my dad's 60th birthday in August. Specially ordered with a very specific dial (as the AD didnt have that piece in stock and I wanted a fresh example without having the dial changed out) and managed to wangle 20% discount off RRP. Excellent service from the AD and the watch turned up within 2 weeks.
Looked at an SS Sub at the time of buying the Datejust and the AD was offering the same %age discount on that too. Decided I had spent enough money in one day and left it at that.
JAGS said:
Between the GMT and the Sub, I'd have the Sub every day of the week.
In terms of discount, I picked up a Bi-Metal DateJust for my dad's 60th birthday in August. Specially ordered with a very specific dial (as the AD didnt have that piece in stock and I wanted a fresh example without having the dial changed out) and managed to wangle 20% discount off RRP. Excellent service from the AD and the watch turned up within 2 weeks.
Looked at an SS Sub at the time of buying the Datejust and the AD was offering the same %age discount on that too. Decided I had spent enough money in one day and left it at that.
Jags,In terms of discount, I picked up a Bi-Metal DateJust for my dad's 60th birthday in August. Specially ordered with a very specific dial (as the AD didnt have that piece in stock and I wanted a fresh example without having the dial changed out) and managed to wangle 20% discount off RRP. Excellent service from the AD and the watch turned up within 2 weeks.
Looked at an SS Sub at the time of buying the Datejust and the AD was offering the same %age discount on that too. Decided I had spent enough money in one day and left it at that.
Thanks for this. Can you PM the name of the AD to me?
Cheers.
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