Air Force One

[eharding]

davepoth said:

300KPH said:

In Ireland I read they had the "two" marine one helicopters, one being a decoy, the same with "two" cadillac ones, so thats why I thought they might run the the two 747s. I realise that Ireland and UK dont probably count as dangerous a fly zone as say Iraq but still strange they stop the duplication effort with the main Jet.

Also what about this Vison Air Boeing 767-222 call sign N767VA flying right behind airforce one. Who are Vision Air, whats their alleged connection to the government if any and does this passenger plane carry just personel or has it other more serious functions.

IIRC Vision Air is owned by the CIA, and sometimes takes people to be beaten in secret prisons all over the world.

Indeed. I gather Max Mosley has a Vision Air Platinum Frequent Flyer Card.

[Skywalker]

eharding said:

Indeed. I gather Max Mosley has a Vision Air Platinum Frequent Flyer Card.

[motomk]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

I believe an Arab has a 747 decked out just for his horse transportation problems in life.
I know a chap who works as one of the flying horse movers.

Apparently it is quite a sight.

I know of one that flies around the world with racehorses. I looked it up one day and found it was owned by a well-known racing stable from that part of the world. It used to be a B747-200 but has been replaced by a B747-400F. I guess with the money in horse racing, it is not really extravagant. Probably no different really to flying F1 cars around the world.

[Beardy10]

300KPH said:

In Ireland I read they had the "two" marine one helicopters, one being a decoy, the same with "two" cadillac ones, so thats why I thought they might run the the two 747s. I realise that Ireland and UK dont probably count as dangerous a fly zone as say Iraq but still strange they stop the duplication effort with the main Jet.

On his last visit he landed at Stanstead and flew into Winchester House (the US Ambassadors residence) in Regents Park....we live close enough that you could hear/see the helicopters.....they definitely had at least one other decoy helicopter then. The motorcade is out of control.....I would guess it's something like 20 vehicles with a lot of US 4x4's and UK registered Range Rovers....a couple of the Secret Service cars have the boot and windows open...with the guys inside looking very trigger happy!

[mattdaniels]

I did have a chuckle at the motorcade when the car got beached on the exit ramp coming out of the embassy. All the SS chaps getting out and looking very twitchy. I especially liked the way they directed the minibus to park up across the front of them to shield everything from view whilst they sorted it out.

[ErnestM]

Beardy10 said:

a couple of the Secret Service cars have the boot and windows open...with the guys inside looking very trigger happy!

As boots are called "trunks" in the US, those guys are affectionately known as tactical trunk monkies (rear door gunners)

[pidsy]

i'd like to be a tactical trunk monkey.

[Simpo Two]

mattdaniels said:

I did have a chuckle at the motorcade when the car got beached on the exit ramp coming out of the embassy. All the SS chaps getting out and looking very twitchy. I especially liked the way they directed the minibus to park up across the front of them to shield everything from view whilst they sorted it out.

How did they shift it?

[neenaw]

Beardy10 said:

On his last visit he landed at Stanstead and flew into Winchester House (the US Ambassadors residence) in Regents Park...

It's Winfield House.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfield_House

[Beardy10]

neenaw said:

It's Winfield House.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfield_House

Ah yes. Largest private garden in London after Buckingham Palace....surprised that's not on Wiki

Edited by Beardy10 on Wednesday 25th May 18:30

[Chrisgr31]

Simpo Two said:

How did they shift it?

In the other thread on that subject there is a picture of one of those two bars you see that come out the back of recovery trucks being pushed under the front end. I'd guess it was one usually used for shifting trucks. and then there was a pic of "The Beast" on the back of an articulated low loader. Guess some overtime was done in a garage somewhere!

[eccles]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

koolchris99 said:

Buggles said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

I believe an Arab has a 747 decked out just for his horse transportation problems in life.
I know a chap who works as one of the flying horse movers.

Apparently it is quite a sight.

I know that the Sultan of Oman, Qaboos bin Sa'id, he has two Custom 747's kept in a hangar at Muscat International Airport.

Qaboos has some other little ones too.. There is also a tender flying round the jet world for a private A380 and a 787

If my memory serves me right an Arab chap looked at a 'short wheelbase' 747 a few years ago at some airshow or other and said he wanted one.
Boeing said they could do a one off.
So he said he would have two.

Another similar tale of a 747 owner had his missus out buying gear in Milan.
Whilst loving the Jimmy Choo's or similar they didn't have her precise size in stock.

They had them in London.

So she went in the 747 to get them.


could all be bks though.

I wouldn't be suprised if it was true. Where I used to work we used to look after a few VIP aircraft (Royal Joradanian Tristar, Amiri flight 727 from Bahrain, Royal Saudi 747 etc), some of these were private leased VIP 707's. Quite often they were used for shopping trips to Paris from the middle east they would pop over from Paris to get things like the vibrating double bed fixed!
We also used to get VIP C-130's in with Ferraris and Lambos in the back, flown in just for a service.

Edited by eccles on Wednesday 25th May 20:53

[The real Apache]

I remember the Jordanian one, dark grey wasn't it?

[mattdaniels]

Chrisgr31 said:

Simpo Two said:

How did they shift it?

In the other thread on that subject there is a picture of one of those two bars you see that come out the back of recovery trucks being pushed under the front end. I'd guess it was one usually used for shifting trucks. and then there was a pic of "The Beast" on the back of an articulated low loader. Guess some overtime was done in a garage somewhere!

No sorry I think you must be mistaken. It did not happen. A car may have got stuck, but it was the decoy, and a completely different car to the one that Obama was in. That's why they moved the minibus infront of it, so that you could not see the president not being hustled out of the back of it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13507338

[Wheelrepairit]

Wonder what timeHe is off to France in the morning,'I'm working about 300 yes from
End of runway tomorrow

[eccles]

The real Apache said:

I remember the Jordanian one, dark grey wasn't it?

That's the one.

[Beardy10]

We're currently being buzzed by a Chinook in London...I guess Obama is getting ready to continue his trip.

[IM NUTS2]

28000 and 29000 are the tail numbers for the 2 747's (VC-25) the President uses, wigth regard to the pilots every when a new president is inaugurated they get a new fight crew that will stay till the presidents term in office ends.

Had the pleasure of seeing SAM 28000 doing touch and go's with Obama's new Captain at Greensboro NC back in 2008, it's call sign was US1 for the day.

With regards to private 747's, the Qatar Amiri has a 747SP based in Bournmouth.

[Simpo Two]

mattdaniels said:

No sorry I think you must be mistaken. It did not happen. A car may have got stuck, but it was the decoy, and a completely different car to the one that Obama was in.

They might just be saying that to save embarassment...

[Wheelrepairit]

Well, what an exciting morning, yes I know, I really need to get out more.

I was working approx 400 yds from end of runway at Stansted this morning so was looking forward to seeing Air force 1.

On approaching the airport approx 9am there were already 3 police choppers airbourne so guessed something was up.Plus no other aircraft movements at all.

Short while later the 2 obama chopers went over, with 2 chinooks in hot pursuit, pretty awesome sight and sound.

They landed out of view and then approx 10 mins later a white/blue 757 took off, followed by a plain, bar small stars/stripes on tail 737, CIA i guess.

Then the choppers took off again and headed north to I presume Mildenhall, then nothing for 10 mins then the normal easyjet/Ryanair started up again.

We all presumed Obama was on the 757, decided not to bring the 747, when all of a sudden a "Air force one" 747 took off, sweet jesus what a beautiful aircraft, stunning.

Then during remainder of morning another white/blue 757, plus loads of plain looking N reg private jets and 737s.

Cant believe how many people involved in the movement of just one man, simply bonkers.

But great to witness none the less, sorry, boring story I know, but made my day.