HMS Queen Elizabeth
Discussion
It's always slightly depressed me how bad we seem to be as a nation at preserving warships, given how vital the Royal Navy has been to the country. However, that view may be coloured by the USA, which has managed to preserve some very large modern era warships, such as aircraft carriers, the USS Missouri and others, and even a Dreadnought.
It is a great pity that Liverpool and Birkenhead cannot support a Naval heritage collection.
The crowds come out in force to watch great naval displays, both merchant fleets and warships.
Surely Cunard and other Naval Gazers would contribute funds?
The crowds come out in force to watch great naval displays, both merchant fleets and warships.
Surely Cunard and other Naval Gazers would contribute funds?
Edited by SantaBarbara on Friday 11th August 12:26
Europa1 said:
However, that view may be coloured by the USA, which has managed to preserve some very large modern era warships, such as aircraft carriers, the USS Missouri and others, and even a Dreadnought.
All 4 of the Iowa Class BB's are now museum ships.Wisconsin is at Norfolk, VA
New Jersey is at New Jersey
Iowa is at Long Beach, CA.
Missouri is at Pearl, suitably berthed on battleship row behind the Arizona memorial, neatly representing the start and finish of WW2 for the USA (the Japanese surrender was signed on the Mo in Tokyo Bay)
The cost of preservation is a huge issue, where would we have kept Vanguard, Warspite or KGV?
Texas was in a very poor state/technically sunk for ages until a new group got involved and raised funds to get her moved to dry dock for repairs. There is a good youtube short on this - will find the link if I can.
Don't get me wrong, I really wish we had saved a couple...Belfast just doesn't cut it for me...we want the ship that faced down the High Seas fleet and lived!
Texas was in a very poor state/technically sunk for ages until a new group got involved and raised funds to get her moved to dry dock for repairs. There is a good youtube short on this - will find the link if I can.
Don't get me wrong, I really wish we had saved a couple...Belfast just doesn't cut it for me...we want the ship that faced down the High Seas fleet and lived!
BrettMRC said:
Don't get me wrong, I really wish we had saved a couple...Belfast just doesn't cut it for me...we want the ship that faced down the High Seas fleet and lived!
We were lucky to even get Belfast, a lot of cruisers were laid up prior to scrapping and the Imperial War Musuem were only after a 6" turret, but then tried for a ship. Initially it was going to be HMS Gambia but it wasn't in good condition so they were able to go for Belfast but the government had said no to preservation and it took a heavy campaign and private trust set up to finally get it.There are a few more ex-Royal Navy ships from the 60s (maybe even 50s) still in service or laid up from other navies around the world.
There is also a WWI era ex-Royal Navy destroyer still in Thailand, the Phra Ruang, formerly HMS Radiant it was still afloat in 2000 and then taken ashore and encased in concrete (like Japan's Mikasa) as a shrine to Admiral Prince Abhakara Kiartivongse. Here it is, the bridge structure is not original.
I haven't been down to Rotten Row for a while now so have no idea what's currently rusting resting there, but that used to be quite the semi-floating museum of unwanted grey ships. Only seems like yesterday that Intrepid and Fearless were decomposing together in that stretch.
In other HMS QE rumours and news, I was told yesterday evening that there's a possibility it might try to slip into harbour under the cover of darkness (possibly the night before the published times) to reduce the number of witnesses to any potential whoopsie. I do find this hard to believe, but the source of this rumour is usually reliable. However, I'm rather sceptical of such a claim
In other HMS QE rumours and news, I was told yesterday evening that there's a possibility it might try to slip into harbour under the cover of darkness (possibly the night before the published times) to reduce the number of witnesses to any potential whoopsie. I do find this hard to believe, but the source of this rumour is usually reliable. However, I'm rather sceptical of such a claim
Cold said:
I haven't been down to Rotten Row for a while now so have no idea what's currently rusting resting there, but that used to be quite the semi-floating museum of unwanted grey ships. Only seems like yesterday that Intrepid and Fearless were decomposing together in that stretch.
In other HMS QE rumours and news, I was told yesterday evening that there's a possibility it might try to slip into harbour under the cover of darkness (possibly the night before the published times) to reduce the number of witnesses to any potential whoopsie. I do find this hard to believe, but the source of this rumour is usually reliable. However, I'm rather sceptical of such a claim
You could always sign up to be notified of movements by QHM, although they do say that they are E&OE.In other HMS QE rumours and news, I was told yesterday evening that there's a possibility it might try to slip into harbour under the cover of darkness (possibly the night before the published times) to reduce the number of witnesses to any potential whoopsie. I do find this hard to believe, but the source of this rumour is usually reliable. However, I'm rather sceptical of such a claim
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/qhm/portsmouth/shippin...
Iron Duke is coming in on Monday. Wasn't she shadowing QE last week?
Flying Phil said:
What is the story about a civilian drone landing on the QE2? Presumably, in the future, there will be ammunition for those posh rapid firing guns......
In harbour it would be pretty easy to land a drone on any warship. When operating it would probably be screwed by the radar and off not it could be jammed relatively easily.You would not shoot it with a phalanx.
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