HMS Queen Elizabeth
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Probably in refit. Of the 11 carriers currently in service only 3 are deployed, (Reagan, Nimitz and Bush) one is in pre-deployment, one in post deployment and 6 are in maintenance.
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When working with materials ie weather ferrous or non ferrous or composite you are given limits to how long you can fire before expansion or contraction ceases to work whichever is the better still remains to be questioned until otherwise there will always be be room for improvement.
Cobnapint said:
Speculatore said:
That said, I do tend to agree that a more comprehensive protective screen would make more sense remembering that the initial order for the Type 45 was 13 and we ended up with 6. (And that the Type 45 does not have a surface to surface capability as we did with Exocet and Harpoon.
They should also stick with Goalkeeper as a point defense weapon rather than Phalanx as it is a much more capable system.
What advantages does the Goalkeeper CIWS have over Phalanx?They should also stick with Goalkeeper as a point defense weapon rather than Phalanx as it is a much more capable system.
Bolting some superannuated Harpoon tubes on deck is typical MoD cheeseparing, bugger the extra radar cross section or any other consideration; over the life of the class paying for one of the various ASMs off the shelf, under development or adapted for VLS from existing air launched missiles seems prudent and unlikely to add much to the total bill.
cuprabob said:
Cobnapint said:
Gandahar said:
So who are we going to fight with this multi billion pound ship post Brexit?
And multi billion aircraft that don't exist.
We'll find somebody...!And multi billion aircraft that don't exist.
So that is the Falklands and Gibraltar, so quite good thinking.
My main worry is those hairy people north of the border, is it me or are they once again getting a bit upperty? They built the ships but now one has gone down south I think we might be in trouble.
In hindsight we should have built a 3rd one to cruise up and down Loch Ness.
Gandahar said:
cuprabob said:
Cobnapint said:
Gandahar said:
So who are we going to fight with this multi billion pound ship post Brexit?
And multi billion aircraft that don't exist.
We'll find somebody...!And multi billion aircraft that don't exist.
So that is the Falklands and Gibraltar, so quite good thinking.
My main worry is those hairy people north of the border, is it me or are they once again getting a bit upperty? They built the ships but now one has gone down south I think we might be in trouble.
In hindsight we should have built a 3rd one to cruise up and down Loch Ness.
Dr Jekyll said:
NDA said:
andym1603 said:
Reading on the teletext this morning, She was refuelled twice at Invergordon during sea trials. 4,000,000 litres each time. Would that be brimming the tanks or a splash and dash?
Jebus!What's that going to cost??
NDA said:
andym1603 said:
Reading on the teletext this morning, She was refuelled twice at Invergordon during sea trials. 4,000,000 litres each time. Would that be brimming the tanks or a splash and dash?
Jebus!What's that going to cost??
Speculatore said:
The question was why I thought that Goalkeeper was a better system than Phalanx. We have retained Phalanx as it is an American system so spares etc are readily available.
From a Warfare perspective I would rather be behind a Goalkeeper system than Phalanx. (Having served on a few ships with both systems)
With the thermal tracker (moa to dream of) optimised and hardened ballistic round and improvements to barrel stability I wouldn't want not to be "behind" Phalanx.. From a Warfare perspective I would rather be behind a Goalkeeper system than Phalanx. (Having served on a few ships with both systems)
MartG said:
NDA said:
andym1603 said:
Reading on the teletext this morning, She was refuelled twice at Invergordon during sea trials. 4,000,000 litres each time. Would that be brimming the tanks or a splash and dash?
Jebus!What's that going to cost??
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