HMS Queen Elizabeth

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Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Hardly.

The tin can wasn't invented until about 1810. wink

Proper Corned Beef is beef that is salted to preserve it. It's known as 'corned' owing to the fact that the size of the salt grains used approximates the size of a wheat grain. It is very different to the disgusting mush as is sold in cans!


Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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eldar said:
Ayahuasca said:
Spam - a popular tinned pork based food.
A staple in Vietnam, part of the US legacy.
In Hawaii, believe it or not, Spam is so sought after that it often stolen from shops, to the extent that it is locked away like jewellery.

Google it if you don't believe me.

I quite like Spam sandwiches, must be cold straight from the fridge though. mmmmmmmmm



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Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Bleagh!

Another weirdo! wink

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
We have Ocean and Bulwark which are a similar size.
Similar size to what?

mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Nanook said:
Europa1 said:
SantaBarbara said:
We have Ocean and Bulwark which are a similar size.
Similar size to what?
Each other.

They're nothing like the size of QEC.
Which is what this thread is about, not some missile from 30 odd years ago!

MartG

20,694 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Nanook said:
Europa1 said:
SantaBarbara said:
We have Ocean and Bulwark which are a similar size.
Similar size to what?
Each other.

They're nothing like the size of QEC.
Anyway, Ocean decommisions next March, and in October 2017, the BBC's Newsnight reported that the Ministry of Defence was considering decommissioning Bulwark and Albion as part of a package of cost-cutting measures intended to mitigate the expense of the Royal Navy's two new aircraft carriers

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

109 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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MartG said:
Anyway, Ocean decommisions next March, and in October 2017, the BBC's Newsnight reported that the Ministry of Defence was considering decommissioning Bulwark and Albion as part of a package of cost-cutting measures intended to mitigate the expense of the Royal Navy's two new aircraft carriers
They should be kept in reserve at say ten days readiness.
They are ideal for humanitarian aid and disaster relief support.

IanH755

1,862 posts

121 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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mikal83 said:
AIM 9L....................wtf are you on about
Can I assume it's the L model that is causing the WTF rather than "what is an AIM-9L"?

Despite adopting the ASRAAM the RAF still has large stock piles of AIM-9L (it never bought any newer versions) which are not yet "Life-Ex" (Life Expired, like a Use By date), which can replace the ASRAAM without any aircraft modifications should we ever "run out" of ASRAAMs in a war situation (unlikely but something we have a contingency plan for). We were still fitting the 9L model to Tornados when I went to Afghan in 2010 and only swapped to the ASRAAM in 2012 for Libya so while the 9L stocks are slowly being replaced once they become Life-Ex there is /was quite a stock-pile left the last time I dealt with them in late '14.

MartG

20,694 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
MartG said:
Anyway, Ocean decommisions next March, and in October 2017, the BBC's Newsnight reported that the Ministry of Defence was considering decommissioning Bulwark and Albion as part of a package of cost-cutting measures intended to mitigate the expense of the Royal Navy's two new aircraft carriers
They should be kept in reserve at say ten days readiness.
They are ideal for humanitarian aid and disaster relief support.
No magic money tree to pay for them remember wink The magic money tree only appears when May wants to bribe someone to support her

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

109 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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MoD should propose a Humanitarian Aid contingency plan and ask for part of the Foreign Aid budget to be transferred to MoD to fund it.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
Spam - a popular tinned pork based food.
Septic Tank - a vessel, usually quite large, and (unless it's empty) almost certainly full of st...

mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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IanH755 said:
mikal83 said:
AIM 9L....................wtf are you on about
Can I assume it's the L model that is causing the WTF rather than "what is an AIM-9L"?

Despite adopting the ASRAAM the RAF still has large stock piles of AIM-9L (it never bought any newer versions) which are not yet "Life-Ex" (Life Expired, like a Use By date), which can replace the ASRAAM without any aircraft modifications should we ever "run out" of ASRAAMs in a war situation (unlikely but something we have a contingency plan for). We were still fitting the 9L model to Tornados when I went to Afghan in 2010 and only swapped to the ASRAAM in 2012 for Libya so while the 9L stocks are slowly being replaced once they become Life-Ex there is /was quite a stock-pile left the last time I dealt with them in late '14.
We stopped using the 9L in the early 90's

IanH755

1,862 posts

121 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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No we didn't.

There are plenty of images of Tornado F3/GR4's and, until we scrapped them, Harrier GR7/9's with AIM-9L's fitted in 2003 for Op Telic, although there are much fewer images after that time to be fair.

Also the Tornado GR4 was only cleared for ASRAAM use in very early 2011, just before Op Ellamy. It still used AIM-9L right up until that time, or maybe I hallucinated the armourers fitting them for practice when I was groundcrew on 617sqn in 2010.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

109 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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But what about armaments fitted to the Carrier for defence purposes?

Evanivitch

20,143 posts

123 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
They should be kept in reserve at say ten days readiness.
They are ideal for humanitarian aid and disaster relief support.
10 days? Does that even qualify as being in reserve?

mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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IanH755 said:
No we didn't.

There are plenty of images of Tornado F3/GR4's and, until we scrapped them, Harrier GR7/9's with AIM-9L's fitted in 2003 for Op Telic, although there are much fewer images after that time to be fair.

Also the Tornado GR4 was only cleared for ASRAAM use in very early 2011, just before Op Ellamy. It still used AIM-9L right up until that time, or maybe I hallucinated the armourers fitting them for practice when I was groundcrew on 617sqn in 2010.
Who's talking about the crabs

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
But what about armaments fitted to the Carrier for defence purposes?
What about them?

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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MartG said:
No magic money tree to pay for them remember wink The magic money tree only appears when May wants to bribe someone to support her
Yawn yawn

ecsrobin

17,140 posts

166 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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mikal83 said:
Who's talking about the crabs
You assumed we knew you were Navy wink

mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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ecsrobin said:
mikal83 said:
Who's talking about the crabs
You assumed we knew you were Navy wink
Fleet Air Arm Puleese !

9L 's were fine, easy to assemble as long as a good tap on the joins gave another 1/2 turn on the screws to prevent the buggers from splitting apart on zooming away from the A/C