HMS Queen Elizabeth

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essayer

9,080 posts

195 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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El stovey said:
I flew into Edinburgh yesterday and law what looked like the carrier in Rosyth, is that the Prince of wales? It looked fairly advanced in construction process if so.
Yup, floated out at Christmas, now in fit-out..

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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essayer said:
El stovey said:
I flew into Edinburgh yesterday and law what looked like the carrier in Rosyth, is that the Prince of wales? It looked fairly advanced in construction process if so.
Yup, floated out at Christmas, now in fit-out..
It looks massive, I could see it from miles away. The new bridge looked great also.

Torcars

8,076 posts

190 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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She's been running round off Malta of late. Showing at times 'restricted manouvering' I take it she'll be working with her embarked Chinooks.

Showing destination as Rosyth. I guess it's about time they had her out of the water to check all is OK.

My only experience of carriers - quite extensive I guess as a non-technical civvie - is the three CVS.

I know the likes of Ark had a couple of dickings before she entered service. They are doing things differently with QE but I guess like most ships she'll need post trials rectification. Especially when you consider she is first of class.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Torcars said:
Showing destination as Rosyth. I guess it's about time they had her out of the water to check all is OK.
Will this be the first time they’ve both been together in a ‘finished looking’ state?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Will the P.O.W Enter active service ?

ecsrobin

17,129 posts

166 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Her AIS has said Rostyth since launch. Guessing no one has changed it.

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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SystemParanoia said:
Will the P.O.W Enter active service ?
Yes, https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-prince-of-wale...

"The reason we need two ships is to make sure that one is always available at very high readiness to provide choice to the government. That choice ranges from hard military power, delivering carrier strike, right down to humanitarian aid or promoting UK trade and industry."

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
SystemParanoia said:
Will the P.O.W Enter active service ?
Yes, https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-prince-of-wale...

"The reason we need two ships is to make sure that one is always available at very high readiness to provide choice to the government. That choice ranges from hard military power, delivering carrier strike, right down to humanitarian aid or promoting UK trade and industry."
Ahh.. N+1

Torcars

8,076 posts

190 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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ecsrobin said:
Her AIS has said Rostyth since launch. Guessing no one has changed it.
It has changed at least twice. Once to Gib and then to no destination then back to Rosyth.




mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
SystemParanoia said:
Will the P.O.W Enter active service ?
Yes, https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-prince-of-wale...

"The reason we need two ships is to make sure that one is always available at very high readiness to provide choice to the government. That choice ranges from hard military power, delivering carrier strike, right down to humanitarian aid or promoting UK trade and industry."
Which is bks talk for we only have enough manpower/Aircraft etc for one!

Dog Star

16,143 posts

169 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Absolutely - good examples are the amount of time the French and Spanish carriers are actually deployed. In fact what about the US carriers?

aeropilot

34,663 posts

228 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Nanook said:
mikal83 said:
Which is bks talk for we only have enough manpower/Aircraft etc for one!
And the fact that these ships require regular maintenance and dry docking. You can have all the man power you want, but when the ships in a 6 month overhaul, it's not going anywhere regardless of how many people or aircraft it has.
Exactly.

Same as our projected reduced to fleet of 4 new Boomers.....at least one (poss 2) will only be at sea at any one time, while the others will be in refit etc.

Which is the problem many of the NATO countries that have been suckered into the F-35 fiasco are going to be finding out as they've had to massively drop the buy numbers to make it affordable, but the numbers are now so few that, there will in all likelihood never be more than a handful available to actually use at any one time!
The Dutch IIRC, have now reduced their buy to something like 37 or something like that to replace 70 odd F-16's which was what they reduced their original fleet of 200 odd F-16's that replaced their original fleet of 140 odd F-104's.



ecsrobin

17,129 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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She’s alongside in Portsmouth after arriving this morning. Sod’s law I’m always on a day off when she comes in but sat around the house unaware she was arriving.

Cold

15,249 posts

91 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Yep, no real announcement until she was just around the corner this morning. She'll be parked up for some time now while being fitted out with further equipment before leaving later in the year to collect the jets.

Cold

15,249 posts

91 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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This is pretty cool and is lifted directly from HMS Qnlz's Twitter page.
(Obviously not my pictures and credit is due to the busy on-board/in-house 'Tog/media person)

The modelling of HMS Qnlz and RFA Tidespring in the pool and the full size things five years later in real life.




ecsrobin

17,129 posts

166 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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A new 3 part series is starting next weekend http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2018/16/...

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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ecsrobin said:
A new 3 part series is starting next weekend http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2018/16/...
It's a pity theres not a preprogramme showing the competing design issues and how they resolved them, including the minor issue of those things that are supposed to use the deck

littlebasher

3,782 posts

172 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Its in Portsmouth at the moment, with both towers surrounded by Scaffolding

Presumably fixing issues that have been identified or a new coat of paint ?

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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They've got Safestyle in to fit new double glazing, they heard if they buy one they get one free.

Cold

15,249 posts

91 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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littlebasher said:
Its in Portsmouth at the moment, with both towers surrounded by Scaffolding

Presumably fixing issues that have been identified or a new coat of paint ?
Yep, been berthed since the end of February. Lots of things to attend to before she enters active service and mostly routine/expected tasks.