HMS Queen Elizabeth

[Cold]

Her social media publisher posted this picture the other day.

Edited by Cold on Tuesday 2nd April 15:28

[DavieBNL]

Now..this would be a sight to see from the loch side if/when it happens https://www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk/news/17529...

[hidetheelephants]

DavieBNL said:

Now..this would be a sight to see from the loch side if/when it happens https://www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk/news/17529...

There's not a lot of choice if the carriers are to enter active service, there's no other means of bombing them up; doing it from barges was binned a long time ago.

[Halmyre]

hidetheelephants said:

DavieBNL said:

Now..this would be a sight to see from the loch side if/when it happens https://www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk/news/17529...

There's not a lot of choice if the carriers are to enter active service, there's no other means of bombing them up; doing it from barges was binned a long time ago.

DM Crombie, just up from Rosyth has also been mooted as a possible site. Seems to be deep enough.

http://fishing-app.gpsnauticalcharts.com/i-boating...

[Cold]

Get a bus through that.

[Cold]

Photo credit: Cathy Lovell, @Cathy_L17 (Well worth having a look at her stuff, she's a military aircraft enthusiast and captures some great images)

[anonymous-user]

Cold said:

Photo credit: Cathy Lovell, @Cathy_L17 (Well worth having a look at her stuff, she's a military aircraft enthusiast and captures some great images)

What a great twitter account.

From the same person. (Cathy Lovell, @Cathy_L17)

[Steve_D]

Where is she now?
All the tracking systems I have looked at show last update as April 1st with destination Portland ETA Oct. 1st.

Steve

[Cold]

Steve_D said:

Where is she now?
All the tracking systems I have looked at show last update as April 1st with destination Portland ETA Oct. 1st.

Steve

The handful of photos directly above might give some clue!

[anonymous-user]

Cold said:

Steve_D said:

Where is she now?
All the tracking systems I have looked at show last update as April 1st with destination Portland ETA Oct. 1st.

Steve

The handful of photos directly above might give some clue!

I wasn’t sure if they were asking the exact location in the first of forth regarding whether it was in the dry dock or still out in the firth.

[Condi]

The official MOD website has her in the Clyde.

Their Scottish geography obviously isnt the best.

[Cold]

She's currently squeezing through a small gap - backwards.





Google maps image:

[Cold]

It's a bit blowy up north so the attempt at entering the basin has been called off until tomorrow.

[Funky Panda]

DavieBNL said:

Now..this would be a sight to see from the loch side if/when it happens https://www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk/news/17529...

Getting through Rhu narrows might be a tight squeeze

[Steve_D]

Cold said:

The handful of photos directly above might give some clue!

My first look at the marine tracking sites had her just of the IOW so I assumed the photos were older pics. I later went back to find those sites were dated 1/4/19.

So to add to my original question if she is now up in Scotland why is there no tracking info for her journey?

If she went up without using AIS do we have a similar issue to that of the Norwegian frigate Helge Ingstad which could not be identified and contacted in good time to avoid an incident?

Steve

[Cold]

Technology, eh? It can't be trusted.
I can't be sure (because I'm currently thousands of miles away) yet I would suggest that she isn't loitering off the Isle of Wight, but is presently kicking her heels somewhere around here:

[anonymous-user]

Steve_D said:

Cold said:

The handful of photos directly above might give some clue!

My first look at the marine tracking sites had her just of the IOW so I assumed the photos were older pics. I later went back to find those sites were dated 1/4/19.

So to add to my original question if she is now up in Scotland why is there no tracking info for her journey?

If she went up without using AIS do we have a similar issue to that of the Norwegian frigate Helge Ingstad which could not be identified and contacted in good time to avoid an incident?

Steve

Don’t navy ships usually not show up on AIS apps?

You see some but they often only show in port or get the wrong ship.

I doubt any navy wants joe public tracking all their ships really?

[hidetheelephants]

Funky Panda said:

DavieBNL said:

Now..this would be a sight to see from the loch side if/when it happens https://www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk/news/17529...

Getting through Rhu narrows might be a tight squeeze

I doubt they'd ever bother but if the RN managed to get KGV through the narrows as they were 70 years ago getting the carrier through since they were widened and deepened for the Vanguard class should be entirely feasible.

[Halmyre]

El stovey said:

Steve_D said:

Cold said:

The handful of photos directly above might give some clue!

My first look at the marine tracking sites had her just of the IOW so I assumed the photos were older pics. I later went back to find those sites were dated 1/4/19.

So to add to my original question if she is now up in Scotland why is there no tracking info for her journey?

If she went up without using AIS do we have a similar issue to that of the Norwegian frigate Helge Ingstad which could not be identified and contacted in good time to avoid an incident?

Steve

Don’t navy ships usually not show up on AIS apps?

You see some but they often only show in port or get the wrong ship.

I doubt any navy wants joe public tracking all their ships really?

Her track was visible during the North Sea trials.

[anonymous-user]

Halmyre said:

Her track was visible during the North Sea trials.

But not at loads of other times and not between Portsmouth and Rosyth.