HMS Queen Elizabeth
Discussion
Condi said:
I'm pretty sure PoW had her engines running the other day, looked like it going over the bridge anyway. When is she due to move out and start see trials?
Yep. Did a few revolutions of each prop in the basin. I don't think there's been a definite published date for the first time she heads out to sea apart from late 2019 - which I'm taking to mean November-ish.
Back in July the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence re-reconfirmed she would be entering service as planned in response to a question by Kevan Jones, MP for North Durham.
Cold said:
Yep. Did a few revolutions of each prop in the basin.
Back in July the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence re-reconfirmed she would be entering service as planned in response to a question by Kevan Jones, MP for North Durham.
Nice Back in July the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence re-reconfirmed she would be entering service as planned in response to a question by Kevan Jones, MP for North Durham.
She will obviously be entering service - I can't see the MOD selling her to another country, and it wouldn't make sense to mothball it so soon. Maybe if France came along and paid a good price they might be tempted to sell, but who else would want her or would we want to sell her to, given she is loaded with the latest NATO/UK military hardware and software?
Looks like they've nailed her back together satisfactorily. The crew have been recalled over the past few days and she'll be heading out of harbour tomorrow (Friday 30th) at lunchtime.
During this outing away from home she'll be liaising with Northumberland*, Dragon, Tideforce and a number of Merlins and Wildcats from Culdrose and Yeovilton to head for Washington and eventually Westlant 19.
This trip should also see the embarkation of the first F35s.
Aim to be waterside before 12:30 tomorrow if you want wave them bon voyage.
*HMS Northumberland is currently en-route to take part in the Cutlas Fury 19 submarine hunt exercise near Halifax, Nova Scotia.
During this outing away from home she'll be liaising with Northumberland*, Dragon, Tideforce and a number of Merlins and Wildcats from Culdrose and Yeovilton to head for Washington and eventually Westlant 19.
This trip should also see the embarkation of the first F35s.
Aim to be waterside before 12:30 tomorrow if you want wave them bon voyage.
*HMS Northumberland is currently en-route to take part in the Cutlas Fury 19 submarine hunt exercise near Halifax, Nova Scotia.
Cold said:
Looks like they've nailed her back together satisfactorily. The crew have been recalled over the past few days and she'll be heading out of harbour tomorrow (Friday 30th) at lunchtime.
During this outing away from home she'll be liaising with Northumberland*, Dragon, Tideforce and a number of Merlins and Wildcats from Culdrose and Yeovilton to head for Washington and eventually Westlant 19.
This trip should also see the embarkation of the first F35s.
Aim to be waterside before 12:30 tomorrow if you want wave them bon voyage.
*HMS Northumberland is currently en-route to take part in the Cutlas Fury 19 submarine hunt exercise near Halifax, Nova Scotia.
The crew will be recalled...............where did they go?During this outing away from home she'll be liaising with Northumberland*, Dragon, Tideforce and a number of Merlins and Wildcats from Culdrose and Yeovilton to head for Washington and eventually Westlant 19.
This trip should also see the embarkation of the first F35s.
Aim to be waterside before 12:30 tomorrow if you want wave them bon voyage.
*HMS Northumberland is currently en-route to take part in the Cutlas Fury 19 submarine hunt exercise near Halifax, Nova Scotia.
mikal83 said:
The crew will be recalled...............where did they go?
Shore leave, mostly. Spent with their families etc. Although, some may have gone off for other projects or training.There will have been a skeleton crew on shift for security and day-to-day functions (albeit not necessarily made up entirely of HMS QNLZ crew) but the entire crew being on board while the guys in overalls wave spanners and welders about would just get in the way.
Tomorrow's voyage is going to be a few months at sea for all involved, so they will function better after being at home while the ship was being mended/modified/equipped.
Cold said:
mikal83 said:
The crew will be recalled...............where did they go?
Shore leave, mostly. Spent with their families etc. Although, some may have gone off for other projects or training.There will have been a skeleton crew on shift for security and day-to-day functions (albeit not necessarily made up entirely of HMS QNLZ crew) but the entire crew being on board while the guys in overalls wave spanners and welders about would just get in the way.
Tomorrow's voyage is going to be a few months at sea for all involved, so they will function better after being at home while the ship was being mended/modified/equipped.
A broken ship doesn't mean everyone goes on leave. Leave is planned around ship operations, and training is done prior to a draft.
When a ship is in for unplanned repairs the crew would need to be ready to sail at short notice.
Also they wouldn't have other crews manning a ship. There is always a minimum duty watch made up of the crew no matter what the siruation.
Nobody will be getting in the way. The crew includes a large Marine engineering branch who will be involved in the repairs. Everyone else won't even be in those spaces.
Edited by 98elise on Friday 30th August 08:44
El stovey said:
Does this (or other) ship(s) ever actually shut down completely?
I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
When we had three carriers there was a time when one or even two was almost totally shut down and left I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
On the quayside.
This last couple of months QNLZ has been “working”.
mattyn1 said:
El stovey said:
Does this (or other) ship(s) ever actually shut down completely?
I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
When we had three carriers there was a time when one or even two was almost totally shut down and left I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
On the quayside.
This last couple of months QNLZ has been “working”.
El stovey said:
On the quayside though presumably it’s still producing power etc and having systems running? Are these ships ever completely shut down? If they have major maintenance or checks or work done do they ever have nothing on them working?
Will it not just plug into shore power to keep essential systems running? There seems little point paying to run diesel generators on the vessel itself when you can just plug in an extension lead and buy cheaper power. El stovey said:
Does this (or other) ship(s) ever actually shut down completely?
I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
Normally no. Along side engines will be off, and you may be on shore power.I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
Everything else will will be running or in a standby state. You still need water (multiple types), power, aircon, lighting, hydraulics, pneumatics etc.
You would only fully shutdown if the ship was being mothballed. Even in a refit you need to keep certain bits running.
98elise said:
El stovey said:
Does this (or other) ship(s) ever actually shut down completely?
I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
Normally no. Along side engines will be off, and you may be on shore power.I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
Everything else will will be running or in a standby state. You still need water (multiple types), power, aircon, lighting, hydraulics, pneumatics etc.
You would only fully shutdown if the ship was being mothballed. Even in a refit you need to keep certain bits running.
Maybe it’s just me but I find it fantastic that it gets built and powered up and then something always stays running until the ship ends it’s service.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 30th August 09:36
Cold said:
mikal83 said:
The crew will be recalled...............where did they go?
Shore leave, mostly. Spent with their families etc. Although, some may have gone off for other projects or training.There will have been a skeleton crew on shift for security and day-to-day functions (albeit not necessarily made up entirely of HMS QNLZ crew) but the entire crew being on board while the guys in overalls wave spanners and welders about would just get in the way.
Tomorrow's voyage is going to be a few months at sea for all involved, so they will function better after being at home while the ship was being mended/modified/equipped.
Are you serving onboard or just guessing???
Cold said:
I'm interpreting a recent output of their social media stream. It's quite apparent they haven't on board these past couple of months:
Lots of the crew live at home (locally) when the ship is in home port, but will return to the ship every day. People that live further away will travel home at weekends (If not on duty).That's just normal daily routine in your home port.
El stovey said:
98elise said:
El stovey said:
Does this (or other) ship(s) ever actually shut down completely?
I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
Normally no. Along side engines will be off, and you may be on shore power.I find it fascinating that all these systems are running, producing power or air or maybe pneumatics and hydraulics etc.
Everything else will will be running or in a standby state. You still need water (multiple types), power, aircon, lighting, hydraulics, pneumatics etc.
You would only fully shutdown if the ship was being mothballed. Even in a refit you need to keep certain bits running.
Maybe it’s just me but I find it fantastic that it gets built and powered up and then something always stays running until the ship ends it’s service.
Edited by El stovey on Friday 30th August 09:36
Managed to get down and video it departing. Also a french warship in the solent, British Minehunter and RFA tideforce. https://youtu.be/N9JXHBWjW6Q
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