HMS Queen Elizabeth

Author
Discussion

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
When is she expected to depart? In the area this weekend

Cold

15,253 posts

91 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
shouldbworking said:
When is she expected to depart? In the area this weekend
Exact details as yet TBA. But you might get lucky, she's only due to hang around for a week(ish) for this round of replenishment/embarkation.
But as usual, until all lines are let go it's never 100% certain to us non-crew. biggrin

RizzoTheRat

25,199 posts

193 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
Cold said:
The Strike Group details for the upcoming shenanigans have been released.

It will comprise of:
HMS Queen Elizabeth, HMS Kent, HMS Defender, HMS Diamond, HMS Northumberland, RFA Tideforce, RFA Fort Victoria, HNLMS Evertsen, USS The Sullivans and possibly/maybe/perhaps something painted a darker colour that moves around undetected by most.
The Sullivans is a flight 1 Arleigh Burke, so no hanger, will they put USN maintenance facilities on QE? If so would they operate LAMPS helicopters from QE or does that need more stuff that's only on board the later flight ships?

Ash_

5,929 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
RizzoTheRat said:
Cold said:
The Strike Group details for the upcoming shenanigans have been released.

It will comprise of:
HMS Queen Elizabeth, HMS Kent, HMS Defender, HMS Diamond, HMS Northumberland, RFA Tideforce, RFA Fort Victoria, HNLMS Evertsen, USS The Sullivans and possibly/maybe/perhaps something painted a darker colour that moves around undetected by most.
The Sullivans is a flight 1 Arleigh Burke, so no hanger, will they put USN maintenance facilities on QE? If so would they operate LAMPS helicopters from QE or does that need more stuff that's only on board the later flight ships?
At a guess, if a flight 1 Arleigh Burke can operate a helicopter anyway, then they'd have what they need on the ship to support this too. Even if they have no hangar to do work in. That said, QE has had a V-22 land on it, so I guess there's nothing really stopping them landing another helicopter on board, they have the space after all.

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

202 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
Wasn't aware until now that there was a USS The Sullivans ! Joint first with HMS Beaver for out there warship names !

RizzoTheRat

25,199 posts

193 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
Named for 5 brothers who died on the same ship in WW2 frown


Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

202 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
I see now. Very appropriate. Sorry for being disrespectful.

LotusOmega375D

7,647 posts

154 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
Keeping with the odd RN ship names theme, my father-in-law served on HMS Nonsuch after WWII. It was a captured (then modern) German Destroyer, which the Royal Navy wanted to evaluate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_destroyer_Z38

RizzoTheRat

25,199 posts

193 months

LotusOmega375D

7,647 posts

154 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
What about HMS Spanker?

Cold

15,253 posts

91 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
Ash_ said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Cold said:
The Strike Group details for the upcoming shenanigans have been released.

It will comprise of:
HMS Queen Elizabeth, HMS Kent, HMS Defender, HMS Diamond, HMS Northumberland, RFA Tideforce, RFA Fort Victoria, HNLMS Evertsen, USS The Sullivans and possibly/maybe/perhaps something painted a darker colour that moves around undetected by most.
The Sullivans is a flight 1 Arleigh Burke, so no hanger, will they put USN maintenance facilities on QE? If so would they operate LAMPS helicopters from QE or does that need more stuff that's only on board the later flight ships?
At a guess, if a flight 1 Arleigh Burke can operate a helicopter anyway, then they'd have what they need on the ship to support this too. Even if they have no hangar to do work in. That said, QE has had a V-22 land on it, so I guess there's nothing really stopping them landing another helicopter on board, they have the space after all.
I don't have the expertise to comment really so any opinion would just be speculation, but I would point out that the UK crew have previous experience of working at sea on board alongside the US servicemen/women and this voyage will be furthering that integration.
No idea if that includes tinkering with whatever USS The Sullivans is carrying.

Cold

15,253 posts

91 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
Just found out that she's due to leave port tomorrow (Weds16th) at 11:45 in the morning and then will anchor in the Solent.

Nope, no idea either. confused

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
LotusOmega375D said:
Keeping with the odd RN ship names theme, my father-in-law served on HMS Nonsuch after WWII. It was a captured (then modern) German Destroyer, which the Royal Navy wanted to evaluate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_destroyer_Z38
There used to be an HMS Terrible.

acd80

745 posts

146 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
A bit of an unfortunate name for a Royal Naval Air Station.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNAS_ttt_(HMS_Tern...

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
quotequote all
Cold said:
Just found out that she's due to leave port tomorrow (Weds16th) at 11:45 in the morning and then will anchor in the Solent.

Nope, no idea either. confused
Sounds like an effort to stop the crew having too many opportunities to catch covid

StephenP

1,886 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
quotequote all
acd80 said:
A bit of an unfortunate name for a Royal Naval Air Station.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNAS_ttt_(HMS_Tern...
Amusingly, it seems PH censors the URL and not just the text in the post ... laugh

Cold

15,253 posts

91 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
quotequote all
She's due to leave for the GroupEx and JW202 exercises tomorrow at 3:25PM.

Friday's departure was delayed due to high winds across the harbour mouth and I believe (unconfirmed, obvs) that Wednesday's cancelled potential early departure and subsequent anchoring was to attempt to find a weather window in anticipation of the cross winds.

This is where we now have lots of comments about "What happens in wartime, will we ask the enemy to wait until the wind dies down?"
In an attempt to fend off these before they land, I'll point out that her upcoming voyage is for an exercise and as such the risk/reward ratio means it's not worth putting the ship, her crew and the local landmarks through any unnecessary peril when nothing is lost by waiting.

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

213 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
quotequote all
The delays worked out nicely for me, got to see her and Prince of Wales alongside on the harbour tour. The weekend didn't seem to stop them having a few merlin outings over the weekend.

normalbloke

7,463 posts

220 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
quotequote all
Yep, the Merlins have been fast and furious this weekend. I can read the dot matrix display on the deck showing tail numbers,arrival and departure times.

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

202 months

Monday 21st September 2020
quotequote all
Cold said:
In an attempt to fend off these before they land, I'll point out that her upcoming voyage is for an exercise and as such the risk/reward ratio means it's not worth putting the ship, her crew and the local landmarks through any unnecessary peril when nothing is lost by waiting.
Indeed. After Vanguard almost took out the Still and West they don't take any unnecessary risks !!!

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/dramatic-day-van...