HMS Queen Elizabeth
Discussion
Psycho Warren said:
I've been a civvy 
now for almost 13 years and the cuts in service for me were massively noticable and since i have left, the navy seems decimated. Lets hope the sacrifices to ensure we got the 2 carriers were worth it in losses elsewhere.
Sadly time and history will not show that not to be the case.....especially after the likely next set of cuts to be announced very shortly take place. now for almost 13 years and the cuts in service for me were massively noticable and since i have left, the navy seems decimated. Lets hope the sacrifices to ensure we got the 2 carriers were worth it in losses elsewhere. Piginapoke said:
98elise said:
Piginapoke said:
I don’t think anyone outside of the Scottish shipbuilding yards think the carriers are a good idea.
Other than all the other blue water Navy's?They have recently announced its replacement to be built, which will be an even bigger nuc powered catapult carrier.
Piginapoke said:
I don’t think anyone outside of the Scottish shipbuilding yards think the carriers are a good idea.
Several sections were built in English yards; guess again!aeropilot said:
France manage it on a comparable defense spend budget, and a proper carrier as well.
They have recently announced its replacement to be built, which will be an even bigger nuc powered catapult carrier.
Given how much of a dog's dinner their first CVN has been that is a surprise.They have recently announced its replacement to be built, which will be an even bigger nuc powered catapult carrier.
Piginapoke said:
I don’t think anyone outside of the Scottish shipbuilding yards think the carriers are a good idea.
What does this even really mean?It was designed in England, by an English company.
Some, most even, of the steelwork was built/assembled in Scotland, but some was done in Devon, on the Mersey, the Tyne.
Then there's engines, DGs, GTs, EMs. Lifts, doors, HVAC, routed systems, and just loads and loads of other stuff that was procured from companies across the country. They probably liked the idea.
thewarlock said:
andy97 said:
In partnership with Thales.
Yes, but not BAE.The only French national who worked on the project AFAIK was employed by BMT long before it started.
After the MoD's response to the ship design completion was "can we have both" then there was some minor BaE involvement in the design, but it was still primarily the BMT design.
MBBlat said:
BMT DSL, based in Bath, were contracted by Thales UK for the ship design, Thales being primarily an electronics/weapons manufacturer. Thales FR had no input whatsoever.
The only French national who worked on the project AFAIK was employed by BMT long before it started.
After the MoD's response to the ship design completion was "can we have both" then there was some minor BaE involvement in the design, but it was still primarily the BMT design.
'Both'?The only French national who worked on the project AFAIK was employed by BMT long before it started.
After the MoD's response to the ship design completion was "can we have both" then there was some minor BaE involvement in the design, but it was still primarily the BMT design.
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