RE: Vulcan to be grounded

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WayneB

208 posts

226 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Still remember the first time I saw a Vulcan flying over Bilesley Common as a kid at the annual airshow with its bomb bay doors wide open.

BLOODY AMAZING!

Dissapointed to hear that yet again like the Concorde the Brits cant be bothered to keep this fantastic aircraft in the air for futire generations to marvel at

Its one thing to see it on the ground, but another to see it in flight and hear those Rolls Royce Olympus engines screaming.

Edited by WayneB on Saturday 13th October 02:08

boma

174 posts

207 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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As a kid I remember low level overhead flybys at Sealand and Valley... felt like the earth was about to end! Amazing machine and sad to see go. How about sacking some stupid middle management government idiots and keeping this going?

TKH

395 posts

189 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Sad that we cannot as a country support this but we can do this with our money !

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/342865/We-re-n...

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Was it the Vulcan that was suppose to bomb the runway in the Falklands?

Aldor

92 posts

139 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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LongLiveTazio said:
Since when was 'difficult and costly' a barrier to British engineering?
since accountants were allowed out of their cages.

rs mexico

473 posts

216 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Use to see a frail old man on his walking sticks out and about with the local chavs giving him abuse most days.
Then one day while out with me dad we passed him,it seems he was at school with my dad and then joined the RAF.He then went on to fly Vulcans in the height of the cold war while carrying the bomb untill he had a meltdown and was retired early.So whats your day job then.

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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jason61c said:
Was it the Vulcan that was suppose to bomb the runway in the Falklands?
Nothing "supposed" about it.
Read this book -


JVaughan

6,025 posts

283 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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When she flew transit over the South Wales Valleys, my Facebook went crazy with comments... Quite a few people were gobsmacked by the sight, having never seen her before.
Lots if comments Lin admiration .. And some saying .."is it new?"

rtz62

3,369 posts

155 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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If we told the Governent to stop sending the ridiculous amounts of Aid to India, China et al, the Vulcan would be viable for years.
And before any wker s start trying to convince me or themselves that the aid is justified, India and china have the worlds fastest growing economies and spend a whole bunch of $ on space and nuclear programmes. Which they wouldn't be able to fund unless the had the generous aid provided by countries like ours.....

Vieste

10,532 posts

160 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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jason61c said:
Was it the Vulcan that was suppose to bomb the runway in the Falklands?
They did a very good accurate bomb mission on that runway, put it out of use for the time being,but did not destroy it as it was going to be needed by us.smile


I will be going to see the vulcan as much as i can next year.bow

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Nothing "supposed" about it.
Read this book -

Well thats the thing, the runway was totally useable for the duration of the conflict, 90% of bombs missed. The Argentine forces moved mud piles onto the runway so they looked like craters from high above.

Chris Harris

494 posts

153 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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jason61c said:
Well thats the thing, the runway was totally useable for the duration of the conflict, 90% of bombs missed. The Argentine forces moved mud piles onto the runway so they looked like craters from high above.
That's missing the point. It sent a clear message: we can reach the Falklands by air, so we can also reach your mainland. That book is absolutely compelling: defy anyone not to read it in one sitting!

DaveL485

2,758 posts

197 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Gizmoish said:
XH558 in a few years, and XL426 at Southend... how many more are there sitting around growing mould? frown
XL360 down the road from me in Coventry, and another down the road in Wellesbourne.

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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My father was stationed at Scampton in 72-73; I was lucky to see Vulcans almost every day thumbup. The stunning, air ripping sound of 4 of them being scrambled and taking off at once was awe inspiring.

ali_kat

31,989 posts

221 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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DaveL485 said:
Gizmoish said:
XH558 in a few years, and XL426 at Southend... how many more are there sitting around growing mould? frown
XL360 down the road from me in Coventry, and another down the road in Wellesbourne.
yes beat me to it

The one at Wellesbourne runs, but doesn't fly.

Surely something can be done to recreate the expired parts? Cobble together from the 3 non flyers above?

I'm another that will do my best to help keep her in the skies if I win the lottery

wedgeinald

1,309 posts

190 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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It is a sad day indeed, we need to "push the boat out" so to speak for this year to get her shown at as many places as possible, I am amoungst the people who was hoping the wing mod would keep her flying for a bit longer, (this was disussed at the Vulcan AGM this year) but if funding for that cannot be found, and other parts are coming to the end of their life then maybe it is time to let her retire for good, (lets face it once she is grounded there will NEVER be another Vulcan in the air), However IF the money for the wing mod can be found and that gives us 1 years more of seeing her fly I'm all for supporting that.

Like plenty of others IF I had a big lottery win the VTTS would be one of my first calls!

My first experience of a Vulcan was XL391 at RAF Waddington when I was a CCF Cadet...


rtz62

3,369 posts

155 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Thought someone would have beaten me up for my 'cut foreign aid' comment!
I used to live at Bessecar, Doncaster near to RAF Finningly and remember what I fantastic sight they were flying overhead.
Strange feeling of security as a little boy in the late 60's n early 70's knowing they were there to protect us.
As stated before, the visceral sound of those engines was so strong you could feel it in your internal organs.
I've donated previously to the cause and if I had a big enough EuroMillions win would make sure money went to this and the BBMF.

aeropilot

34,591 posts

227 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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jason61c said:
Eric Mc said:
Nothing "supposed" about it.
Read this book -

Well thats the thing, the runway was totally useable for the duration of the conflict, 90% of bombs missed.
Suggest you spend some time reading up on the facts before posting drivel.

Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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jason61c said:
Was it the Vulcan that was suppose to bomb the runway in the Falklands?
It was, I was on the see off team

J4CKO

41,560 posts

200 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Whilst I would love to see a Vulcan fly indefinitely, I think that we have to remember that is is an old, heavy, complex and powerful aircraft, the airframes are 50 plus years old and regardless of cost it gets to a point where you are pushing your luck, they cant throw them around like they used to for various reasons, there were a few accidents with Vulcans, it is a well engineered aircraft but a 737 it isnt, it is more TVR than Kia, even with the money, support, expert volunteers, public enthusiasm and will to see it, I think it gets to a point where it is a bit risky to endanger the crew, and possibly the spectators flying 80 tonnes of aging strategic bomber over their heads. I may be wrong here, it may be just cash, suppose if there was enough money a new one could be built.

I think it's last flying hours should be used to capture some hi-def, 3D footage with awesome sound, to be shown in cinemas with appropriate sound reproduction, that can carry off the chest pummeling, ear rupturing, spine tingling noise that a Vulcan makes.

Over on Scoobynet, we have our own tame Vulcan pilot, he was accused some time ago of making it up, he came back with irrefutable proof and some fantastic stories, I can only begin to imagine what it must have been like, being sat in the front of something so big going up vertically, I get excited in a bit of turbulence, imagine piloting one of them back in the fifties.