Airbus A380

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Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Indeed. The exhaust note used to crackle - which (I was told) was due to the exhaust gases exceeding the speed of sound.

With the exception of Concorde, I would say that the Trident was the noisiest airliner operating regularly in the UK.

rustyuk

4,589 posts

212 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Sad to see though Eric, there was a lot of effort in getting everything ready for service.

I seem to recall that no sooner had the A380 launched it was on to the B787 but I guess in reality there was a few years in between. Didn't seem like it at the time!




Narcisus

8,089 posts

281 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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rustyuk said:
Sad to see though Eric, there was a lot of effort in getting everything ready for service.

I seem to recall that no sooner had the A380 launched it was on to the B787 but I guess in reality there was a few years in between. Didn't seem like it at the time!



You mean A350 ?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Eric Mc said:
Indeed. The exhaust note used to crackle - which (I was told) was due to the exhaust gases exceeding the speed of sound.

With the exception of Concorde, I would say that the Trident was the noisiest airliner operating regularly in the UK.
The TU154 was very noisy as well, certainly pretty close to Trident levels.

Trevatanus

11,129 posts

151 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Dr Jekyll said:
Eric Mc said:
Indeed. The exhaust note used to crackle - which (I was told) was due to the exhaust gases exceeding the speed of sound.

With the exception of Concorde, I would say that the Trident was the noisiest airliner operating regularly in the UK.
The TU154 was very noisy as well, certainly pretty close to Trident levels.
Talking of noisy, I remember when the Russian's shot down an airliner, and there was an Aeroflot IL62 parked up at Heathrow. The ground crew refused to touch it, so push back was not possible.
They used reverse thrust, which I heard from Hounslow West (about 5-6 miles away)

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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It would be interesting to hear a direct comparison. But having sat at the end of a runway listening to all sorts of 60s and 70s era jet airliners (including Tu154s), I will always say that the Trident was the loudest. The Rolls Royce Spey was just a noisy motor - and the Trident had three of them. Other Spey powered airliners only had two Speys (BAC-11 and Fokker F-28).

I reckon the Nimrod would have been even noisier (as it had four Speys) but you didn't get them much at civvie airports.

I don't remember any of the other engines producing that sonic crackle. You still hear it with rocket launches - but not jet engines.

aeropilot

34,733 posts

228 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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I dunno.......Trident were indeed very noisy, but then again, so were the 4 x Conway's on a Vicky Ten......but perhaps a different type of noise. The Conway's used to vibrate your chest, whereas the Trident were a much higher pitched screaming sound.

The Caravelle was equally a higher pitched screamer, and not far off a Trident, considering it only had 2 engines.


Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Caravelles varied depending on what they had. The original Caravelles had Rolls Royce Avon turbojets (like the Comets 2,3 and 4) and the later Caravelles had Pratt and Whitney JT8D low bypass turbofans (like on DC-9s, the 727 and 737-100/200s).

I will still go with the Trident as the noisiest of the lot. At full thrust just before beginning the take off roll, the panels that made up the tail fin used to vibrate due to the sonic shock waves. I never saw that on any other airliner.

Obviosly, ALL of these older jet engines were massively louder than any civil airliners we have around today


Narcisus

8,089 posts

281 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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aeropilot said:
I dunno.......Trident were indeed very noisy, but then again, so were the 4 x Conway's on a Vicky Ten......but perhaps a different type of noise. The Conway's used to vibrate your chest, whereas the Trident were a much higher pitched screaming sound.

The Caravelle was equally a higher pitched screamer, and not far off a Trident, considering it only had 2 engines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSZWtTLZJBI

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GliderRider

2,131 posts

82 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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The Trident 3B had four engines. There was an RB162 turbojet booster engine for 15% extra thrust for 5% extra weight, primarily for use in hot & high conditions. Whether this was ever used at Heathrow, I don't know. I expect it was noisy if it was.

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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It was quite a small engine but it was noisy. But even the 1s and 2s were noisy, without the 162.

Trident 1 tail fin -



Trident 3 tail fin -


CAPP0

19,622 posts

204 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Eric Mc said:
I would say that the Trident was the noisiest airliner operating regularly in the UK.
A mantle now assumed by the Piaggio P180 Avanti! (OK, not quite an airliner, but BLOODY noisy!)

KTF

9,835 posts

151 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Narcisus said:
Look at the crap coming out the back of that. Massive difference to now.

aeropilot

34,733 posts

228 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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KTF said:
Narcisus said:
Look at the crap coming out the back of that. Massive difference to now.
That's nothing.....you should have seen coal-fired laugh Convair 990's back in the day.

Here you go......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClY8cp_F4UU

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HoHoHo

14,989 posts

251 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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aeropilot said:
KTF said:
Narcisus said:
Look at the crap coming out the back of that. Massive difference to now.
That's nothing.....you should have seen coal-fired laugh Convair 990's back in the day.

Here you go......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClY8cp_F4UU

smile
Looks like a James Bond anti-villain smoke screen hehe

towser44

3,501 posts

116 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Air France retiring their remaining 9 A380's by the end of 2022 and a further 3 expected at Knock for scrapping.

https://flyinginireland.com/2020/02/up-to-four-air...

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Is Knock now a site for scrapping?

Speed 3

4,621 posts

120 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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towser44

3,501 posts

116 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Emirates have operated one of theirs into Manchester this morning. Made a pleasant sight having not seen one for months!

Trevatanus

11,129 posts

151 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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towser44 said:
Emirates have operated one of theirs into Manchester this morning. Made a pleasant sight having not seen one for months!
Three into LHR today