Flying or gliding experience?

Flying or gliding experience?

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Zippee

13,484 posts

235 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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renmure said:
Get yourself in a flexwing microlight and do some proper flying biggrin



This smile
Huge fun, open to the elements, you really feel what you're doing and visibility is even better than in a glider - plus what other aircraft can you sit in starfish (legs and arms hanging out the sides) at 5000 feet smile

Relatively easy to fly the basics as well...

RichB

51,718 posts

285 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Zippee said:
renmure said:
Get yourself in a flexwing microlight and do some proper flying biggrin

This smile
Huge fun, open to the elements, you really feel what you're doing and visibility is even better than in a glider - plus what other aircraft can you sit in starfish (legs and arms hanging out the sides) at 5000 feet smile Relatively easy to fly the basics as well...
You lot are mad biglaugh

Petrus1983

8,855 posts

163 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Just had the s**test day gliding - 10 hours of my life devoted for 8 mins of flying (2x 4 mins) - it's days like this I miss an engine!!

In all seriousness you really do have to weigh up how much you can tolerate the elements when deciding what to fly. Usually I'm cool - today was on the uber annoying scale!!

Simpo Two

85,735 posts

266 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Petrus1983 said:
Just had the s**test day gliding - 10 hours of my life devoted for 8 mins of flying (2x 4 mins)
4 mins - that's dire. What height did you release from?

essayer

9,106 posts

195 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Ahh, was it one of those days when all the pundits are going on about what a good day it is and how they just did 300k in a K-8 - and when you finally launch you can only find the sink, try again then someone steals the glider? Been there done that.

If it's any consolation the ASH25 out of Dunstable did a 750km flight today smile

https://www.bgaladder.co.uk/dscore.asp?FlightID=59...

RichB

51,718 posts

285 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Petrus1983 said:
Just had the s**test day gliding - 10 hours of my life devoted for 8 mins of flying (2x 4 mins) - it's days like this I miss an engine!!
Sounds like you beat the tug down! hehe

Andy_mr2sc

1,224 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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RichB said:
Zippee said:
renmure said:
Get yourself in a flexwing microlight and do some proper flying biggrin

This smile
Huge fun, open to the elements, you really feel what you're doing and visibility is even better than in a glider - plus what other aircraft can you sit in starfish (legs and arms hanging out the sides) at 5000 feet smile Relatively easy to fly the basics as well...
You lot are mad biglaugh
I saw one of these nutters take off from Headcorn yesterday. Sod that for a game of soldiers. Talk about taking your life in your hands...!

Petrus1983

8,855 posts

163 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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RichB said:
Petrus1983 said:
Just had the s**test day gliding - 10 hours of my life devoted for 8 mins of flying (2x 4 mins) - it's days like this I miss an engine!!
Sounds like you beat the tug down! hehe
laugh It was a winch launch, no headwind so didn't get great height and both times released into a band of sink! Only had 400ft to play with trying to find some lift before needing to get into the circuit at 600ft :/

Simpo Two

85,735 posts

266 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Petrus1983 said:
laugh It was a winch launch, no headwind so didn't get great height and both times released into a band of sink! Only had 400ft to play with...
That's basically a crash on take-off nuts

essayer

9,106 posts

195 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Simpo Two said:
That's basically a crash on take-off nuts
Especially galling when you stick around for the rest of the afternoon and all the other guys get back at 6pm having done a 300k frown

renmure

4,255 posts

225 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Andy_mr2sc said:
RichB said:
Zippee said:
renmure said:
Get yourself in a flexwing microlight and do some proper flying biggrin

This smile
Huge fun, open to the elements, you really feel what you're doing and visibility is even better than in a glider - plus what other aircraft can you sit in starfish (legs and arms hanging out the sides) at 5000 feet smile Relatively easy to fly the basics as well...
You lot are mad biglaugh
I saw one of these nutters take off from Headcorn yesterday. Sod that for a game of soldiers. Talk about taking your life in your hands...!
Ach, once you are pootling around at 10,000ft, what can go wrong?? wink



Petrus1983

8,855 posts

163 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Simpo Two said:
Petrus1983 said:
laugh It was a winch launch, no headwind so didn't get great height and both times released into a band of sink! Only had 400ft to play with...
That's basically a crash on take-off nuts
So rude - any landing you walk away from is a good one biggrin

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Petrus1983 said:
RichB said:
Petrus1983 said:
Just had the s**test day gliding - 10 hours of my life devoted for 8 mins of flying (2x 4 mins) - it's days like this I miss an engine!!
Sounds like you beat the tug down! hehe
laugh It was a winch launch, no headwind so didn't get great height and both times released into a band of sink! Only had 400ft to play with trying to find some lift before needing to get into the circuit at 600ft :/
It was very up and downy on sunday, the lift seemed to be interspersed with equal amounts of ridiculous sink. Lots of sailplanes out, some above and some below...


And gratuitous pic from cloudbase @ 3700 feet, 'cos it's the first time I've got up there and was feeling very pleased with myself smile

Petrus1983

8,855 posts

163 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Looking good!! I was below, far, far below!

Eta - the best flight came from a lovely lady in her 80's in a 50 year old K6 - she came down after 90 mins through choice, she nailed the £100k+ gliders with no issue!

Edited by Petrus1983 on Monday 16th May 21:16

marcosgt

11,032 posts

177 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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RichB said:
marcosgt said:
I won a glider experience day at an Aldershot Army day some years ago. Sadly, there wasn't much wind the day we went, so we were winched up and then more or less just spiralled down. It didn't inspire me to go again...
Sadly that's often the case with some clubs more determined to launch people airborne on poor days rather than be honest and suggest they come on a nice day with blue skies and fluffy white clouds. That is why I have been suggesting people look for hill top sites where they can usually depend on the wind for some ridge soaring. Incidentally flat sites don't need wind it's thermals but that's getting into the details. It's the bumpy bits that glider pilots love and power pilots shy away from! hehe
Good point on thermals vs wind - I told you I wasn't inspired smile

It was a hilltop location, supposedly a good one, but I just lucked out I think...

M

defblade

Original Poster:

7,454 posts

214 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Right, finally a day off and some reasonable weather came together.

Off to Talgarth and the Black Mountain Club, thanks again Bearman for the pointer beer


Not much in the way of intro chat, pretty much straight on with a 'chute and into the glider (that's my instructor, not me)...






...which I just about fit in to wink







Seems the engine was u/s, so we had to get a bump start (this was really cool!)







Amazing views smile






Then I had a go for a while, with lots of help wink

We were up for about 40 minutes, but eventually it's time to come down - that's the airfield in the middle of the pic, it's tiny!







So, how was it?
Well, I really enjoyed it, but I don't think I've found my new hobby.

I did get some motion sickness after a little while, and that took the edge off the second half a bit. Also, at 6' 4", I'm on the very top end of fitting in the cockpit so I had a sore back towards the end and my legs had to held at strange angles to clear the controls; when I had a go they really didn't get the feel of the pedals at all, I think mainly due to my nervous tension and those angles. I kept losing my foot off the right pedal, in particular.

But I did love starting below the hikers on the hills; skimming along the ridge feeling like the ground is just a few feet from the wingtip (hopefully really quite a few feet!); then climbing, climbing, climbing on a tight loop (it felt almost around the wingtip to me; the instructor said it was about a 200m figure-of-8) and the hikers stood watching us going up and up, poor old sods stuck to the ground smile


I'm very glad I went, one off the bucket list, but I think that's it for me for gliding.
Thanks to all who contributed to the thread beer See you again next year, maybe, flying a different way? wink

essayer

9,106 posts

195 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Ahh glad you had a good day of it.

Motion sickness is incredibly common on experience flights - usually with actual lessons you're concentrating more on the flying.

If you do go again, I think you'd be better off in a K21 (fibreglass two seater), you're more reclined and you'd have had more legroom. Some places wind the pedals out of the way when you're doing a trial lesson.





Simpo Two

85,735 posts

266 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Well done Defblade!

RichB

51,718 posts

285 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Takes me back 30 years! 40 mins you did well obviously had some thermals and a chandelle by the sound of it. Puzzled why a K13 wasn't big enough but perhaps their rudder pedals are different to ours. Anyway you had a good flight and ticked it off. biggrin

defblade

Original Poster:

7,454 posts

214 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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RichB said:
Takes me back 30 years! 40 mins you did well obviously had some thermals and a chandelle by the sound of it.
I've looked up chandelle now, and yes, we did that for a good while.

The Black Mountains Gliding Club seems to be blessed with their location - a long, nearly 300m high ridge runs NE away from the field and the wind was coming from the West. I think staying up forever would have been an option if my tummy wasn't that bit queasy smile

https://goo.gl/maps/KXn2gQ6Tac52




RichB said:
Puzzled why a K13 wasn't big enough but perhaps their rudder pedals are different to ours.
It's probably just me wink Perhaps with a bit more fiddling/wriggling time I'd have found a better position, and maybe different shoes.... as I said, not going to be my new full-time hobby, but never say never wink