THE President, and logistics?

THE President, and logistics?

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chilistrucker

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4,541 posts

152 months

Sunday 24th April 2016
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Chrisgr31 said:
So if all the kit is in the UK how does it get to Germany for his next visit before he does?
Good question yes

Is the planning done in such a clever way that it can all be moved from a2b on time, or maybe they have some sort of leapfrog system.
On some of the bigger tours i worked on, the stage was so huge that it wasn't possible to de rig after 1 show, get it all on the trucks and moved to the next show and rebuild it in the time required. The way they got around it was to have 3 separate stage systems throughout the tour, and each stage required 35 trucks to move it around.
Perhaps Mr President and his entourage have 2 full sets of kit?

Steve_D

13,756 posts

259 months

Sunday 24th April 2016
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I think someone voiced surprise that there did not appear to be a backup 'Airforce One'.
Perhaps it is in Germany or somewhere in between.

Steve

Shaw Tarse

31,544 posts

204 months

Sunday 24th April 2016
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How much is for show?
POTUS has multi veHicle cavalcade, but will be pax in a /sit a golf buggy?RR

surveyor

17,877 posts

185 months

Sunday 24th April 2016
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Steve_D said:
I think someone voiced surprise that there did not appear to be a backup 'Airforce One'.
Perhaps it is in Germany or somewhere in between.

Steve
There are two 'Air Force One' 747's. I don't think they use them both at the same time though, and as we all know, Air Force One is actually the call sign of any aircraft with the President on-board.

The limo get's its own plane. My guess is there will be more than one of them available...

Impasse

15,099 posts

242 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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BBC Journo takes a trip aboard Air Force One


aspender

1,308 posts

266 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Happened upon the motorcade heading out from Regents Park on Thursday afternoon, before he landed at Stanstead. A mix of US and MPS vehicles including two Discos loaded with heavily armed and very mean looking Met police - presumably SO1. There were two 'beasts'.

https://vimeo.com/164069795

Butter Face

30,408 posts

161 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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aspender said:
Happened upon the motorcade heading out from Regents Park on Thursday afternoon, before he landed at Heathrow. A mix of US and MPS vehicles including two Discos loaded with heavily armed and very mean looking Met police - presumably SO1. There were two 'beasts'.

https://vimeo.com/164069795
Those chaps in the Discos look badass!

Sheepshanks

32,908 posts

120 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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chilistrucker said:
Ha,ha, not seen that before laugh
Just shows, all those staff, all that planning, and something can still be missed. Who got a bking for that 1?
Looked like the front suspension collapsed, rather then it simply hitting the ridge.

aeropilot

34,798 posts

228 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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wildcat45 said:
For all it is impressive, to me it is nothing compared to the discrete efficiency of the Met Polices Special Escort Group.
yes


aeropilot

34,798 posts

228 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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chilistrucker said:
Perhaps Mr President and his entourage have 2 full sets of kit?
They have way more than 2 of everything...

aeropilot

34,798 posts

228 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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aspender said:
Happened upon the motorcade heading out from Regents Park on Thursday afternoon, before he landed at Stanstead. A mix of US and MPS vehicles including two Discos loaded with heavily armed and very mean looking Met police - presumably SO1.
Probably more likely SO6.....or a mix of SO6/SO1?

David87

6,669 posts

213 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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I was at Stansted yesterday morning when it took off - there was the AFO 747, two Ospreys, two helicopters and a 757, plus a British police helicopter or two. Also met the motorcade on the perimeter roads - they were intimidated by my Nissan Qashqai, I can tell you. biggrin I'll post some pictures up later.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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The motorcade came through our sleepy little town when heading down to Stonehenge a few years back. Even though Obama wasn't part of it (he flew down) they were taking no prisoners on the road. Pretty much just short of running other cats off the road, impressive sight!

wildcat45

8,077 posts

190 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Love the fact that the Met still have L322 Range a Rovers. There's one just at the end of the video.

chilistrucker

Original Poster:

4,541 posts

152 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Butter Face said:
aspender said:
Happened upon the motorcade heading out from Regents Park on Thursday afternoon, before he landed at Heathrow. A mix of US and MPS vehicles including two Discos loaded with heavily armed and very mean looking Met police - presumably SO1. There were two 'beasts'.

https://vimeo.com/164069795
Those chaps in the Discos look badass!
Blimey, you wouldn't want to upset them shoot

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Not sure why Obama needs so much security, he is a Muslamic.

robm3

4,930 posts

228 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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We did the logistics for the 2005 G8 at Gleneagles.

The logistics are handled as part of the FCO (Foreign Commonwealth Office) responsibility. At the time we, DHL, held the FCO freight contract so they reached out to us to support.

I sent two Project Managers to the initial meetings, attending were local government, FCO, military and security personnel. The US team attended later meetings.

Most of the discussion was around avoiding protestors.

A polite way to describe the local government and FCO team was 'out of it's depth'.

For instance they suggested to land the leaders planes (can't recall which airport now), and process the arrivals and luggage through the airport, finally bringing the luggage down a carousel that would be roped off to the public, walked through the airport and put in vans in the arrival car park!!
Instead we met the planes airside and took the luggage to a local military base, totally avoiding the public.

(In doing so I got some great photos of a DHL van next to AirForce One that we used internally)

Secondly they envisaged a budget of 150K, we ended up billing a four times this.

There were three routes to the Base and onto the Hotel, the longest one was chosen to again, avoid protesters.

We sorted the luggage at the military base so that the bags could be taken directly to the rooms.

There was a very specific schedule of arrivals and departures. Near the end Gorge W woke up and decided he wanted to leave right then. We then worked with his head of Security and Logistics to move him up the schedule. Our point man, who was overseeing the loading, got to go on Air Force one as a thank you and took a pot of Strawberry Jam (Bush's favourite apparently).

As for security, they didn't tell us too much but all my guys had airside clearance previously anyhow, i don't think they checked more than that!

I can expand more but a little pushed for time at the moment.

Overall it was a really interesting experience.






S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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aeropilot said:
wildcat45 said:
For all it is impressive, to me it is nothing compared to the discrete efficiency of the Met Polices Special Escort Group.
Incons
yes
My dad worked with these guys on a few occasions when he was in the Army - very efficient and seemingly very intensive training. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmZ7hhREZhI


chilistrucker

Original Poster:

4,541 posts

152 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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robm3 said:
We did the logistics for the 2005 G8 at Gleneagles.

The logistics are handled as part of the FCO (Foreign Commonwealth Office) responsibility. At the time we, DHL, held the FCO freight contract so they reached out to us to support.

I sent two Project Managers to the initial meetings, attending were local government, FCO, military and security personnel. The US team attended later meetings.

Most of the discussion was around avoiding protestors.

A polite way to describe the local government and FCO team was 'out of it's depth'.

For instance they suggested to land the leaders planes (can't recall which airport now), and process the arrivals and luggage through the airport, finally bringing the luggage down a carousel that would be roped off to the public, walked through the airport and put in vans in the arrival car park!!
Instead we met the planes airside and took the luggage to a local military base, totally avoiding the public.

(In doing so I got some great photos of a DHL van next to AirForce One that we used internally)

Secondly they envisaged a budget of 150K, we ended up billing a four times this.

There were three routes to the Base and onto the Hotel, the longest one was chosen to again, avoid protesters.

We sorted the luggage at the military base so that the bags could be taken directly to the rooms.

There was a very specific schedule of arrivals and departures. Near the end Gorge W woke up and decided he wanted to leave right then. We then worked with his head of Security and Logistics to move him up the schedule. Our point man, who was overseeing the loading, got to go on Air Force one as a thank you and took a pot of Strawberry Jam (Bush's favourite apparently).

As for security, they didn't tell us too much but all my guys had airside clearance previously anyhow, i don't think they checked more than that!

I can expand more but a little pushed for time at the moment.

Overall it was a really interesting experience.
Great post, thanks smile
Funny how you get a load of "officials" who come along to explain to YOU what they expect, want, and how it should be done, whilst clearing showing they really haven't got a clue biggrin
I guess you just have to smile, nod your head, and make them think the things you ARE doing, were their idea wink

Are you still at DHL?