Circular runways

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Rubymurray

156 posts

132 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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In theory, one could land in a curve using an RNAV approach, similar to the above picture. The stars are waypoints in space defined by GPS position only, no ground base nav aids like ILS are required. You could even have a circular holding pattern above the runway, with the planes flying in continuous descending circles all the way down to the ground.

However, once again, the disadvantages far outweigh the advantages of this shape of runway, I can't see this ever happening.

Yertis

18,061 posts

267 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Aeroresh said:
How would ILS work since its 2 axis straight lines? Strikes me its been invented by someone who's not a pilot
Or indeed, has ever seen an aeroplane take off or land. It's so absurdly stupid I wonder if it's a poorly executed joke.

aeropilot

34,671 posts

228 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Yertis said:
Aeroresh said:
How would ILS work since its 2 axis straight lines? Strikes me its been invented by someone who's not a pilot
Or indeed, has ever seen an aeroplane take off or land. It's so absurdly stupid I wonder if it's a poorly executed joke.
Its an EU funded project....probably says enough about it.

He's also Dutch, so perhaps the EU funding was spent in too many of those Dutch cafe's laugh


Simpo Two

85,538 posts

266 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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aeropilot said:
Its an EU funded project....probably says enough about it.
Head of Roundabouts has got a new job in Airport Design.

It really is April 1 stuff; people on FB are talking, apparently seriously, about how centrifugal force wil make the 'planes fly towards the centre banghead

blinkythefish

972 posts

258 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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IanH755 said:
Why don't you just have a 2 mile diameter circle of concrete instead, then you can land at any wind angle. Or what about a standard runway but mounted on a turntable so it can be spun into the wind at any time? Both are just as daft as this idea biggrin
Massive centrifuge. Stick a plane on each end spin it up and fire them off once they get up to speed. Think of the fuel the airlines would save!

Landing might be an issue. I'm thinking a giant catchers mit on the end of the centrifuge?

hidetheelephants

24,463 posts

194 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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It appears the US navy had a go at this circular runway malarkey back in the 1960s and it worked. Traditional ILS and landing lights are obviously not terribly practical, but newer GPS-based systems are more flexible and virtual leading lights projected onto a Head-Up Display could serve the same purpose. Perhaps this is an idea that will be revisited once pilotless airliners arrive.

bristolracer

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5,542 posts

150 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Looks like the crazy Dutchman is back with the answers!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-39643292

5150

689 posts

256 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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RNAV approaches have much higher minimums - go below CAT I conditions and the arrivals would grind to a halt!