The canal / narrowboat thread

The canal / narrowboat thread

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Hard-Drive

4,090 posts

230 months

Wednesday 18th October 2017
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spitfire-ian said:
And the ones I get to play with occasionally

Nutfield and Raymond by Ian, on Flickr
Pretty sure you guys came past us in Braunston tunnel in the summer...was bloody spooky seeing an old working pair so deep underground...oooo, were they ghosts?

I'm more of a yachtie but like getting away on the canals for a bit...no excuse not to as there's a hire business in the extended family and I live just metres away from the canal myself. Only really annoying bit compared to yachting is the concentration. You can steer a yacht for some time just by feel and not really needing to pay that much attention. A narrow boat is like some kind of 80s 911 turbo...lose concentration for a few seconds and you're in a tree. Albeit a lot more slowly with a lot less damage, and 60' away from the point of impact too!

robm3

4,930 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Rower said:
Shotgun Jon said:
robm3 said:
Great thread.
When our 'Grey Nomad' phase of life kicks in, spending a July and August travelling the canals of the UK (and possibly France) are definitely on the list.
Love to hear more from PH'ers who've done this or have a boat.
France on a narrow boat??? Serious question but how do you get it there? Surely you don't sail it across the channel??
It does sound mad , but it is doable a guy has written a book called 'Thin dog to Carcasonne' and he took his boat over , had to wait for some time until the weather was guaranteed with no wind or dodgy tides , he sealed up all the hatches , windows etc and got across no problem .
errr.. I didn't mean on the same boat. Hiring one in France. Done a lot of dumb marine stuff in my time so not keen to add any more 'experiences'.

Mexican cuties

691 posts

123 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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bit new to this lovely river chilled out lark, but don't want to take ours out of the water - want to use her in the winter, realise we need a dehumidifier and some low voltage tube heaters, any other tips, much appreciated

Simpo Two

85,538 posts

266 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Mexican cuties said:
bit new to this lovely river chilled out lark, but don't want to take ours out of the water - want to use her in the winter, realise we need a dehumidifier and some low voltage tube heaters, any other tips, much appreciated
If your engine is cooled by river (raw) water you must make sure it doesn't freeze in the system or stopcock - that's what the heaters are really for. Consider also the freshwater system as you don't want any bursts. I use two oil filled rads, one in the engine bay and one in the saloon, plugged into shore power (mains). Shore power is essential to keep a boat operational overwinter and it keeps the batteries charged too.

Depending on what waterway you're on, water levels can rise dramatically over winter so make sure your mooring arrangements are adequate or that there will be someone around to slacken the lines if you're not around.

A14RGS

230 posts

173 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Excellent thread!
We've had numerous (i.e. 20+) week-long holidays on UK canals, sometimes just me + missus + dog, other times a group of us, but always on a hire boat so we can select our location and route and make best use of the time available.
Large group = many locks (i.e. Warwickshire Ring, including Hatton Flight, or K&A including Caen Hill); me + missus = more gentle cruise (i.e. Llangollen, incl. Pontcysyllte Aqueduct).

We have considered buying our own boat (or buying into a timeshare arrangement), but having carefully weighed up the pros and cons (particularly while I'm still working) we are happy to continue hiring. Hoping that grandkids will enjoy it too, once they're old enough smile
The canalside pubs certainly add greatly to the slow pace of life beer

Alan


Mexican cuties

691 posts

123 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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just a question, regarding prep for winter, on our freshwater system we have also in the engine bay the neutra salt system, used to flush out fresh water or salt water engines, tested it yesterday, defo has antifreeze in it, so I assume we can just flush the engine with this solution. thanks for the tip on the heaters, have 2 small tube ones for the engine bay, one larger one for the cabin and a dehumidifier, my god that dehumidifier is the nuts, cant believe how much water it collected.

many thanks

PurpleTurtle

7,016 posts

145 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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I live within walking distance of the Thames in Reading and regularly see all sorts of boats as I cycle along the towpath, narrowboats and the relaxed pace of life thereon really appeals to me.

We're going to do a holiday aboard one as soon as our son (nearly 3yo) is a competent swimmer. Bit worried about a 'man overboard' situation before then. I also want him to be able to properly understand/appreciate/help out with all the locks etc - I was fascinated by those as a kid - so probably looking at him being 7 or 8 before it's really do-able.

I found myself in a bit of YouTube vortex the other night looking at film of the Falkirk Wheel - wonderful piece of engineering!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tBH9SE-Kw8



Edited by PurpleTurtle on Monday 30th October 13:37


Edited by PurpleTurtle on Monday 30th October 13:39

Simpo Two

85,538 posts

266 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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PurpleTurtle said:
We're going to do a holiday aboard one as soon as our son (nearly 3yo) is a competent swimmer. Bit worried about a 'man overboard' situation before then. I also want him to be able to properly understand/appreciate/help out with all the locks etc - I was fascinated by those as a kid - so probably looking at him being 7 or 8 before it's really do-able.
Well, you could wrap him up in a super-dooper lifejacket and just hoik him out with a boathook like a dog. Or tie him to the rail smile

I suspect most people who drown can swim. I can't swim and haven't drowned! People say 'What! You can't swim? But you have a boat!' 'Exactly, it keeps me out of the water!'.

PurpleTurtle

7,016 posts

145 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Simpo Two said:
PurpleTurtle said:
We're going to do a holiday aboard one as soon as our son (nearly 3yo) is a competent swimmer. Bit worried about a 'man overboard' situation before then. I also want him to be able to properly understand/appreciate/help out with all the locks etc - I was fascinated by those as a kid - so probably looking at him being 7 or 8 before it's really do-able.
Well, you could wrap him up in a super-dooper lifejacket and just hoik him out with a boathook like a dog. Or tie him to the rail smile

I suspect most people who drown can swim. I can't swim and haven't drowned! People say 'What! You can't swim? But you have a boat!' 'Exactly, it keeps me out of the water!'.
He has got one of those lifejacket thingies! It's more a case of him being a competent walker/has a sense of fear rather than swimmer, I guess.

I'd be a lot more relaxed knowing that he's not going to go overboard at any moment, which is a distinct possibility with a toddler!

Smollet

10,612 posts

191 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Shotgun Jon said:
France on a narrow boat??? Serious question but how do you get it there? Surely you don't sail it across the channel??
Get several and lash them together like a raft.

john2443

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6,341 posts

212 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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Smollet said:
Get several and lash them together like a raft.
People have sailed narrowboats across the channel - it's a long journey though, out of the Thames on a very calm day and head for Dunkirk. Sounds a bit dodgy though!


theboss

6,919 posts

220 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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My parents took theirs up the Severn estuary from Avonmouth to Sharpness. They were obliged to hire a pilot for the job and it was done on an exceedingly calm day. I can only imagine crossing the English channnel could get pretty hairy in anything other than the calmest conditions and would need to be done under experienced supervision. The scope for disaster is great!

Edited by theboss on Thursday 28th June 08:20

john2443

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6,341 posts

212 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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Just back from another trip on the Narrowboat Trust working pair, Braunston historic boat festival at the weekend then up the north Oxford and Coventry back to Alvecote (near Tamworth).

Hard work - bow hauled the butty down the thick of Atherstone flight, then back up for the motor and do it all again before towing the butty down the other 6 locks.




What shocked me was the number of boats coming towards us who have no bloody idea what they're doing - and mostly they weren't hirers. Sensible procedure, when they see us, knock it into tickover and aim for the gap between us and the bank, actual action, slam astern, spin broadside across in front of us meaning we have to stop and wait for them to sort themselves out. Meanwhile the butty's floating into the reeds, moored boats etc.


Ranger 6

7,053 posts

250 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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Looking to hire in France next summer - any recommendations for companies other than Le Boat?

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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Simpo Two said:
2thumbs said:
I finally got to go on this earlier this year, the Anderton boat lift, built in 1875, that lifts boats from the river Weaver up onto the Trent and Mersey canal. Unfortunately it's plagued with mechanical issues and parts availability so is often out of action for maintenance. Only one lift was working when we went up and we had to wait a while for that to be repaired. It was great though, there's some really interesting old engineering we get to play with as boaters biggrin
One of the seven wonders of the canal world. But I thought it needed both sides to work, as they counterbalance...
I'm assuming the unpronounceable aqueduct on the Llangollen Canal is another, but what are the others?


Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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Europa1 said:
I'm assuming the unpronounceable aqueduct on the Llangollen Canal is another, but what are the others?
Pontcysyllte Aqueduct isn't that unpronounceable

I guess some the others would be..

Falkirk Wheel
Wast Hill Tunnel?
Standedge Tunnels

skinnyman

1,641 posts

94 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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My parents have got one, 'only' cost them around £30k, but the mooring fees are £2.5k/pa. Daft thing is, for the amount of time they get to go out in it they'd be better off renting each time.

Zippee

13,474 posts

235 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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This is 'Jill' my brother in laws boat - used a lot around the Nottingham area and a good size for the odd night away or trip into the city.





Edited by Zippee on Friday 29th June 13:08

Some Guy

2,124 posts

92 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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Love the sound of a national getting some stick. smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBG48nnGqUk

Simpo Two

85,538 posts

266 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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skinnyman said:
My parents have got one, 'only' cost them around £30k, but the mooring fees are £2.5k/pa. Daft thing is, for the amount of time they get to go out in it they'd be better off renting each time.
Financially perhaps, but hiring a boat isn't the same as owning one. If you own one you can use it whenever you want, leave your stuff on it etc. If you hire one you get (generally) a fixed week but choose any waterway. I like both.