Fally-over houseboat ship project

Fally-over houseboat ship project

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dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Yeah, I'm not sure where it will go from here. They're nice people, but maybe in the process of taking on more than they know. I don't know. They do atleast I think they aren't going to just DIY it on Saturdays, but at the moment can clear the junk off and strip obvious trash out.

Due to meet them at a social distance Saturday as part of walking the dogs.

I forgot the exact timeline, but yeah I think mid 70s it had a wodge of cash to convert it to a leasure craft. Then about 10-15 years ago a cheep and dirty spruce up including the plywood bulwarks to do charter work. They fell on harder times and I think had some really low grade work done to her as a half cut recovery bodge.

They are in touch with some of her sister craft including restored examples and those who did the work. Money is coming in via various crowd funding routes. Who knows.

Daniel




Arnie Cunningham

3,769 posts

253 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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This.

Huntsman said:
In the case of Ship Happens, it needs to be BOAM.

I watched their vids a bit, that boat needs to be under cover with a team of three, led by an experienced shipwright, for a year, she is big, complex build, the surgery to remove the rot will be serious work. To my mind, unless they have got several million to spend, its a non starter.

I have the wooden boat T shirt, 3 rebuilds on boats of 28 and 31 foot, boats that are about 3.5 to 4.25 tons. I have done all the work myself, been to A&E, nearly killed myself trying, I can tell them, they cannot do that boat on a DIY part time basis. Its just not doable. I hate to be negative about a wooden boat, they run in my veins, but not that fking great big thing!

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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No news is good news?

Arnie Cunningham

3,769 posts

253 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Doubt it.

And in the case of ship happens, I no longer follow them. It’s clear they are in so deep over their heads, but don’t realise it.
The tat they’ve been buying, Amazon wish lists, etc. Clearly no clue.

hidetheelephants

24,366 posts

193 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Arnie Cunningham said:
Doubt it.

And in the case of ship happens, I no longer follow them. It’s clear they are in so deep over their heads, but don’t realise it.
The tat they’ve been buying, Amazon wish lists, etc. Clearly no clue.
Watched one recently out of morbid curiosity; brass gate valves have no business being anywhere near salt water, it will be rotten as a peach with dezincification. I expect the throughhull is the same, waiting to sink the thing like a UXB.

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Sunday 25th April 2021
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Cryptic message on the Llys Helig Facebook page saying she will be moving soon, bet it will be just as I have to go back to work in the office so can't go and have a look!

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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hidetheelephants said:
Arnie Cunningham said:
Doubt it.

And in the case of ship happens, I no longer follow them. It’s clear they are in so deep over their heads, but don’t realise it.
The tat they’ve been buying, Amazon wish lists, etc. Clearly no clue.
Watched one recently out of morbid curiosity; brass gate valves have no business being anywhere near salt water, it will be rotten as a peach with dezincification. I expect the throughhull is the same, waiting to sink the thing like a UXB.
Unless it's DZR brass - which I'd not heard of until doing a bit of googling after reading your post.

Is it possible to tell from their video?

Googling indicates the same to be an issue with brass screws, which I must admit came as a bit of a surprise. Every day's a school day!

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

247 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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paintman said:
hidetheelephants said:
Arnie Cunningham said:
Doubt it.

And in the case of ship happens, I no longer follow them. It’s clear they are in so deep over their heads, but don’t realise it.
The tat they’ve been buying, Amazon wish lists, etc. Clearly no clue.
Watched one recently out of morbid curiosity; brass gate valves have no business being anywhere near salt water, it will be rotten as a peach with dezincification. I expect the throughhull is the same, waiting to sink the thing like a UXB.
Unless it's DZR brass - which I'd not heard of until doing a bit of googling after reading your post.

Is it possible to tell from their video?

Googling indicates the same to be an issue with brass screws, which I must admit came as a bit of a surprise. Every day's a school day!
Through hull is likely Gunmetal and gate valve should be as well if it remains below waterline as they suggested. DZR is not a magic bullet as it still has a very high zinc content that would need bonding if connected to dissimilar materials in the long term.

But to their credit anything that hasn't got a hole in it is better than something that has when the tide is coming in. wink

Arnie Cunningham

3,769 posts

253 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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You could be mates with Pash 1 with comments like that.

MOTORVATOR said:
anything that hasn't got a hole in it is better than something that has when the tide is coming in. wink

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

247 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Arnie Cunningham said:
You could be mates with Pash 1 with comments like that.

MOTORVATOR said:
anything that hasn't got a hole in it is better than something that has when the tide is coming in. wink
Passes Arnie the handy mahogany plug I carry when he's forgotten to do the bung up on the Arrow, rejected as not shiny enough. biggrin

Arnie Cunningham

3,769 posts

253 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Muppet.

hidetheelephants

24,366 posts

193 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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paintman said:
hidetheelephants said:
Arnie Cunningham said:
Doubt it.

And in the case of ship happens, I no longer follow them. It’s clear they are in so deep over their heads, but don’t realise it.
The tat they’ve been buying, Amazon wish lists, etc. Clearly no clue.
Watched one recently out of morbid curiosity; brass gate valves have no business being anywhere near salt water, it will be rotten as a peach with dezincification. I expect the throughhull is the same, waiting to sink the thing like a UXB.
Unless it's DZR brass - which I'd not heard of until doing a bit of googling after reading your post.

Is it possible to tell from their video?

Googling indicates the same to be an issue with brass screws, which I must admit came as a bit of a surprise. Every day's a school day!
It doesn't matter; no gate valve maker bothers to make all of it out of the same grade of metal, the nastier ones even have steel spindles, so they fizz away merrily to themselves even without the help of salt. They don't do anything better than a ball valve and aren't cheaper, the only place they belong is the scrap bin.

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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lufbramatt said:
Cryptic message on the Llys Helig Facebook page saying she will be moving soon, bet it will be just as I have to go back to work in the office so can't go and have a look!
Indeed so!

hidetheelephants

24,366 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd May 2021
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On a similar plane of incompetence/in over their heads has been Zebu, albeit they've been tapping the National Lottery for money rather than yootoob watchers. They think it's all over; it is now!


dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Yes, sadly the have total fked that one up. We are one historic 1930s tall-ship less in the world.

Daniel

hidetheelephants

24,366 posts

193 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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It's a baltic barge, while they don't grow on trees they aren't the Cutty Sark.

Krikkit

26,529 posts

181 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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How does a ship like that, inside Holyhead sea wall, manage to be so badly damaged?

ClaphamGT3

11,300 posts

243 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Krikkit said:
How does a ship like that, inside Holyhead sea wall, manage to be so badly damaged?
As I looked at it, the vessel was lee-shored athwart the gabions that make up the sea wall. In the prevailing sea state, no vessel will survive that for long

dudleybloke

19,837 posts

186 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Can get a bit hairy inside the breakwater in certain conditions.
My dad used to live right by there and I have seen what the sea can do.

Arnie Cunningham

3,769 posts

253 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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I believe this is the case.

ClaphamGT3 said:
As I looked at it, the vessel was lee-shored athwart the gabions that make up the sea wall. In the prevailing sea state, no vessel will survive that for long
Edited by Arnie Cunningham on Tuesday 25th May 15:48