Fally-over houseboat ship project
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Arnold Cunningham said:
Yes, part of that. But also, when you see these projects - they always start with a whole bunch of fanfair, support clubs and so forth.
And then when the reality of the massive restoration and cost required truly sinks in, they quietly disappear. As always, hope I'm wrong, but it is following the pattern.
Sadly so.And then when the reality of the massive restoration and cost required truly sinks in, they quietly disappear. As always, hope I'm wrong, but it is following the pattern.
I learned today that another quite big heritage project is going to be scrapped.
Teddy Lop said:
I'm guessing it's about provenance, do boats have this the same way as cars, where someone will pull a lump of pig iron out of a lake and go "behold, a Bugatti", then a few years and a few bob later they're driving around in an actual car and claiming it's related to aforementioned lump o pig iron as that's the difference between a bug and a rep.
A rebuild does not have to meet current regs, do can result in a prettier hull form.dhutch said:
Yeah, big project. See also "Ship Happens" here on the Wirral.
Or Tally Ho.I'm just working out how to fill 6 holes in a teak deck, 8mm diameter, after 22 years of wooden boats I'm f
king neurotic about the tiniest little things in an effort to prevent a Tally Ho/Llys Helig type sitch hitting me.I cant see how it can be done for £5m.
Say £1m goes on naval architects, surveyors, cranes, barges, storage etc.
£1M on materials.
Leaves £3M for labour. Say by the time you've insured them, pensions, healthcare, ppe, sick leave, NI etc they are running at a fully burdened rate for £40/hr. That £3M buys you 75000 man hours. Say each bloke works 1800 hours a year. You've got 42 blokes for 1 year. No way can 42 blokes do that boat in a year.
Say £1m goes on naval architects, surveyors, cranes, barges, storage etc.
£1M on materials.
Leaves £3M for labour. Say by the time you've insured them, pensions, healthcare, ppe, sick leave, NI etc they are running at a fully burdened rate for £40/hr. That £3M buys you 75000 man hours. Say each bloke works 1800 hours a year. You've got 42 blokes for 1 year. No way can 42 blokes do that boat in a year.
hidetheelephants said:
It would be cheaper and much quicker to get a set of lines and have a new one built. Recycle the decking, that's probably the only part worth saving.
Is it the case that a rebuilt does not need to meet current regs for stability and stuff, so you can have a long skinny elegant rebuild or a fugly modern tub?And, I think a new one is actually not actually much cheaper? Some new plastic stuff is appalling to look at hilariously priced!
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