What is this old passenger jet?

What is this old passenger jet?

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RDMcG

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19,142 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Seen in Havana...four fuselage mounted engines....maybe Russian?...no clue....


Christmassss

650 posts

89 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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looks like a Ilyushin Il-62

RDMcG

Original Poster:

19,142 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Many thanks.. I wondered if it could be Russian given its location.

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Cubana Ilyushin Il-62, CU-T1284

Seen here in better order...




RDMcG

Original Poster:

19,142 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Can always rely n PH to find the answersmile. Many thanks!!

hutchst

3,702 posts

96 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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I remember Angolan TAAG used to fly one out of Jo'burg. Rate of climb lower than an asthmatic window cleaner, and you could still see the smoke belching out the back when it was 100 miles away.

mike80

2,248 posts

216 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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That, and the similar looking VC-10 are wonderful looking planes in my opinion. It's a shame that they aren't around any more.

hutchst

3,702 posts

96 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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There used to be one festering away at Banjul in Gambia. I haven't been there recently so don't know if its still there.

55palfers

5,910 posts

164 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Nanook said:
The VC10's uglier Russian cousin.
Even the flight deck windows are almost the same

MB140

4,065 posts

103 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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55palfers said:
Nanook said:
The VC10's uglier Russian cousin.
Even the flight deck windows are almost the same
Had the privilege of flying on VC10s, bloody loud and bloody quick.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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hutchst said:
There used to be one festering away at Banjul in Gambia. I haven't been there recently so don't know if its still there.
I flew into Banjul once; very, very last minute abort "as there is already a plane on the runway". I only expected to get the trots after, not before, arriving, in Africa...

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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I always liked the Il-62. IT's quite an attractive looking aeroplane - although the VC-10 is nicer.

FourWheelDrift

88,521 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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IL-62 "Lady Agnes" being retired to the Lilienthal collection in Germany in 1989, making it's final landing on a 900m long grass field.

Landing starts around the 2m28 mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spB1vZU0Aj8

TroubledSoul

4,599 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
IL-62 "Lady Agnes" being retired to the Lilienthal collection in Germany in 1989, making it's final landing on a 900m long grass field.

Landing starts around the 2m28 mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spB1vZU0Aj8
Looks an absolute pig to land!

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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I think the nature of the landing ground is the main culprit in that video. At normal airports, IL-62s behaved OK.

FourWheelDrift

88,521 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Nice bit of on-board from a North Korean IL-62 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb1jtDzu9vE

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Nanook said:
55palfers said:
Nanook said:
The VC10's uglier Russian cousin.
Even the flight deck windows are almost the same
Always thought the tailplane was more elegant on the VC10. The Ilyushin had a longer fuselage but a shorter tail.
An interesting, brief examination of the differences between the two designs...

http://www.vc10.net/History/Comp_il62.html

...and an assertion that, in terms of flight control at least, the Il-62's tail surfaces were the "better" design solution...



...although the Ilyushin design did require the addition of a tail prop with castoring wheels to overcome some challenging CoG issues while loading/unloading fuel, passengers, and baggage.





Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 22 February 08:28

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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More gubbins...

Perhaps the fitting of a tail prop by Ilyushin wasn't such a bad idea after all...



...and maybe Vickers should have installed one for "emergencies and oversights" wink


And the only image I've found with both aeroplanes in the same picture...


Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Il-62s were quite a common sight at Shannon Airport - both Aeroflot and Cubana examples used to stage through to pick up fuel.


demic

374 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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I lucky enough to have made it to Doncaster when the Rada IL62 was in last year. First (and probably only) time I’ve ever seen one.