ANNOYING THINGS PEOPLE DO ON PLANES
Discussion
schmalex said:
What carrier was that with? I fly, probably, 40 - 50 long and ultra long haul sectors a year in first or business across a multitude of carriers. Every flight I take, the cabin crew keep the dividing curtains to the rest of the aircraft closed to allow first and business off before the rest of the plane disembarks.
The curtains have to be open for landing though. Maybe I’ve just never noticed but I’m fairly sure I’ve never seen them drawn again after landing it’s normally just a case of blocking the aisle and allowing the higher classes off isn’t it?Vipers said:
Standing up can pay dividends. Flying Premier Economy, first class board as they use the same door, then us.
Usually when you land Premier Economy are asked to remain seated so first class can disembark first.
Lalst time I instinctivly stood up, followed by the rest of Premier Economy, steward said to his partner, "Whoops we forgot to tell them remain seated", we first off followed by all the other Premier Economy passengers, poor old first class had to wait, bless.
Unless you're hand luggage only, you've still all got to wait at the baggage carousel though.Usually when you land Premier Economy are asked to remain seated so first class can disembark first.
Lalst time I instinctivly stood up, followed by the rest of Premier Economy, steward said to his partner, "Whoops we forgot to tell them remain seated", we first off followed by all the other Premier Economy passengers, poor old first class had to wait, bless.
schmalex said:
On the larger, long haul aircraft, the curtains are generally closed again (often, the curtains between first and business are closed as well). On the little city hoppers, they generally leave them open as business is at the front anyway.
Must just be that I’ve never noticed it before then. Odd.Butter Face said:
nonsequitur said:
Butter Face said:
nonsequitur said:
Butter Face said:
Standing up as soon as the plane lands. It’s just weird. You won’t get anywhere any faster, sit down and wait for the doors to open you idiots.
For those afraid of flying, standing up is a welcome relief once on the ground and positive proof that you are still alive and you are going to walk away from this flight.Sit down. Wait for the doors to open, get up, leave plane. Simple.
Good on you for doing that job BTW, after witnessing some of the absolute numbskulls that fly around the world with TUI I can’t imagine the hassle that cabin crew have to put up with. Kudos.
And everyone did.
MiniMan64 said:
Standing up the minute you hit tarmac is the worst. What’s the bloody rush? Half of you are going to bang your head or end up in some ridiculous position for ages anyway.
We’re all going to be stood in the same crowd in 15 minutes anyway
As I said earlier in the thread I like to stand as soon as possible so as soon as the seat belts sign is turned off. Why does that bother you?We’re all going to be stood in the same crowd in 15 minutes anyway
poing said:
Vipers said:
Premier Economy
When I become ruler of Earth I'm going to ban stupid terms like this. It's either one or the other, something that is both is quite clearly neither and should be labeled as such. In fact I'm just going to use marketing people in a more useful way to stop this nonsense, perhaps they would be useful for scientific test subjects.Sorry, side topic mini rant that should be in the stupid things marketing monkeys say!
MiniMan64 said:
Standing up the minute you hit tarmac is the worst. What’s the bloody rush? Half of you are going to bang your head or end up in some ridiculous position for ages anyway.
We’re all going to be stood in the same crowd in 15 minutes anyway
One of my bugbears too, and the multiple unclicking of seatbelts as soon as the plane hits the runway!! The seatbelt sign is still on, do you take your car seatbelt off when you enter a 30mph zone? We’re all going to be stood in the same crowd in 15 minutes anyway
On drunken antics, try gettin one of the last two flights from Belfast Intl to Liverpool on a Fri night to see/hear some sights. Overweight under dressed chavs in abundance. Always shouting, laughing and fighting.
djc206 said:
schmalex said:
What carrier was that with? I fly, probably, 40 - 50 long and ultra long haul sectors a year in first or business across a multitude of carriers. Every flight I take, the cabin crew keep the dividing curtains to the rest of the aircraft closed to allow first and business off before the rest of the plane disembarks.
The curtains have to be open for landing though. Maybe I’ve just never noticed but I’m fairly sure I’ve never seen them drawn again after landing it’s normally just a case of blocking the aisle and allowing the higher classes off isn’t it?Also as the in charge crew member sitting at door 1 left I could obsrve the entire length of the aircraft. The same applies to all crew members sitting at their doors during this time.
GT03ROB said:
Economy to business maybe & only sometimes ,,,,,,,not economy to premium economy,
Cheapest flight to Miami earlier in the year. £380. Cheapest Premium Economy. £3000. I was not granted the privilege of flying premium by the bean counters for some reason.It's similar for flights to New York in May. <£500 Economy vs >£2000 Premium.
It's just not worth it.
Munter said:
Cheapest flight to Miami earlier in the year. £380. Cheapest Premium Economy. £3000. I was not granted the privilege of flying premium by the bean counters for some reason.
It's similar for flights to New York in May. <£500 Economy vs >£2000 Premium.
It's just not worth it.
Your agent/you are really not trying very hard then ...... a quick check shows 1 week in New York in May with BA in premium economy can be had for 780 quid....... I'm sure you can find a dates that get those prices ,,,,, but I just took a random pair of dates. I will however concede at some of the price differences it is not worth it. It's similar for flights to New York in May. <£500 Economy vs >£2000 Premium.
It's just not worth it.
Edited by GT03ROB on Friday 12th April 11:12
I take about 20 flights per year. Although each is different in its own way, there are usually common themes each time.
1) Whilst waiting for the gate to open, well ahead of scheduled departure time, there are always passengers who turn up in a panic and head straight to the desk, only to be told to take a seat since boarding won't be starting for another 15 minutes. Somehow, they hadn't noticed the display screens advising them of this or the 200 other passengers waiting patiently next to them.
2) 10 minutes later, the person at the desk addresses the PA system. That's the trigger for everyone to stand up and head for the desk without listening to the message. What he/she has actually said is that boarding will commence in 5 minutes, starting with First/Business/Group 1/Gold cardholders/Speedy Boarding passengers etc. In the mean time, please remain seated.
3) 5 minutes later, the premier customers are invited to come forward to boarding. Again everyone stands up and a few befuddled individuals join the wrong queue, only to be sent to the back of the regular queue. If on a budget airline, the Speedy Boarding queue may well be longer than the regular queue, which shows that many customers are prepared to pay the extra to get on their allocated plane seat a couple of minutes earlier than the other 45% of the passengers.
4) I generally take a window seat, so on arrival I wouldn't be able to stand up if I wanted to. That does allow me to comfortably observe the rest of the passengers racing to be the first to their feet, followed by the inevitable PA announcement to "please be seated until the seat belt sign has been switched off". Thereafter follows the struggle to get their luggage from the overhead lockers. Although many of them are happy to pay more to get on the plane two minutes before me, they steadfastly refuse to pay any extra to have their luggage checked-in to the hold. Consequently they cram a week or two's belongings into their giant carry-on trolley bag.
5) The passengers in the middle seats now face a dilemma. They want to stand up, but they can't get into the aisle, so they stand with their necks cricked against the overhead air-con panel. Once they're up though, they just can't bring themselves to sit back down despite the discomfort. The nightmare secnario for them is if there is a delay in opening the doors, or if the door they are closest to is the last to open.
6) The front passengers start to disembark. After about 7 rows, the orderly row-in-front first system starts to break down as a man or woman standing in the aisle behind decides that he/she is entitled to disembark before the rows in front have vacated their seats. Blocking tactics can be justifiably employed at this point.
7) After international flights you then get to Immigration: air travel's great leveller at UK airports. By the time you've got through there, your bags will aready be on the carousel, so you will be on your way just as quickly as the hand luggage only skinflints.
1) Whilst waiting for the gate to open, well ahead of scheduled departure time, there are always passengers who turn up in a panic and head straight to the desk, only to be told to take a seat since boarding won't be starting for another 15 minutes. Somehow, they hadn't noticed the display screens advising them of this or the 200 other passengers waiting patiently next to them.
2) 10 minutes later, the person at the desk addresses the PA system. That's the trigger for everyone to stand up and head for the desk without listening to the message. What he/she has actually said is that boarding will commence in 5 minutes, starting with First/Business/Group 1/Gold cardholders/Speedy Boarding passengers etc. In the mean time, please remain seated.
3) 5 minutes later, the premier customers are invited to come forward to boarding. Again everyone stands up and a few befuddled individuals join the wrong queue, only to be sent to the back of the regular queue. If on a budget airline, the Speedy Boarding queue may well be longer than the regular queue, which shows that many customers are prepared to pay the extra to get on their allocated plane seat a couple of minutes earlier than the other 45% of the passengers.
4) I generally take a window seat, so on arrival I wouldn't be able to stand up if I wanted to. That does allow me to comfortably observe the rest of the passengers racing to be the first to their feet, followed by the inevitable PA announcement to "please be seated until the seat belt sign has been switched off". Thereafter follows the struggle to get their luggage from the overhead lockers. Although many of them are happy to pay more to get on the plane two minutes before me, they steadfastly refuse to pay any extra to have their luggage checked-in to the hold. Consequently they cram a week or two's belongings into their giant carry-on trolley bag.
5) The passengers in the middle seats now face a dilemma. They want to stand up, but they can't get into the aisle, so they stand with their necks cricked against the overhead air-con panel. Once they're up though, they just can't bring themselves to sit back down despite the discomfort. The nightmare secnario for them is if there is a delay in opening the doors, or if the door they are closest to is the last to open.
6) The front passengers start to disembark. After about 7 rows, the orderly row-in-front first system starts to break down as a man or woman standing in the aisle behind decides that he/she is entitled to disembark before the rows in front have vacated their seats. Blocking tactics can be justifiably employed at this point.
7) After international flights you then get to Immigration: air travel's great leveller at UK airports. By the time you've got through there, your bags will aready be on the carousel, so you will be on your way just as quickly as the hand luggage only skinflints.
MiniMan64 said:
Standing up the minute you hit tarmac is the worst. What’s the bloody rush? Half of you are going to bang your head or end up in some ridiculous position for ages anyway.
We’re all going to be stood in the same crowd in 15 minutes anyway
Funny thing is most of those people that stand up as soon as the plane stops are some of the slowest walkers on the planet. If they get off the plane before you, you can guarantee you will walk past them shortly after. As for the carousel I usually only have carry on and will be out the airport before their cases have been unloaded. Shame its not the Carousel from Logan's Run, that would thing the herd a bit.We’re all going to be stood in the same crowd in 15 minutes anyway
LotusOmega375D said:
6) The front passengers start to disembark. After about 7 rows, the orderly row-in-front first system starts to break down as a man or woman standing in the aisle behind decides that he/she is entitled to disembark before the rows in front have vacated their seats. Blocking tactics can be justifiably employed at this point.
This is very accurate.As a frequent flyer (I'll be on two planes today and four next week), I am guilty of standing up as soon as possible after landing. I always take an aisle seat and I just want to get off the plane as soon as possible. You do get off quicker by doing this as if you just sit there, you get blocked in and have to wait longer. The sooner I'm off, the quicker I get off the plane and get to the lounge or get out the airport.
Nobody just sits in their seats and waits for each row to disembark one by one in an orderly fashion.
Nobody just sits in their seats and waits for each row to disembark one by one in an orderly fashion.
bad company said:
That’d be me. After whatever period sitting uncomfortably I just want to stand up at the end of a flight. My back is usually aching.
Why does that make me an idiot?
Because it means you stand uncomfortably squashed in between everyone else doing the same thing meanwhile I move to occupy the space you vacated and sit comfortably. Why does that make me an idiot?
Just did 14 hours over 3 flights yesterday... People stood squished in aisles as soon as the plane stopped... for 15 minutes each time. Still made it to customs before most even after availing myself of the terminals facilities.
So please keep standing up so us non idiots can sit more comfortably.
GIYess said:
One of my bugbears too, and the multiple unclicking of seatbelts as soon as the plane hits the runway!!
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