Southwest Airlines Flight 1380 Engine Failure

[KrazyIvan]

Cockpit radio has been put up on YouTube

https://youtu.be/FkVTdvcghHc

Crew seem remarkable calm and in control

[Eric Mc]

KrazyIvan said:

Cockpit radio has been put up on YouTube

https://youtu.be/FkVTdvcghHc

Crew seem remarkable calm and in control

To be honest, what else would you expect? When something like this happens, the training kicks in and they go about the required procedures as methodically as possible.

[KrazyIvan]

Eric Mc said:

KrazyIvan said:

Cockpit radio has been put up on YouTube

https://youtu.be/FkVTdvcghHc

Crew seem remarkable calm and in control

To be honest, what else would you expect? When something like this happens, the training kicks in and they go about the required procedures as methodically as possible.

I knew the second I posted that you would be along saying "well what do you expect". Your right I would not expect them to start running round like chickens, but bearing in mind that they have a hole in their plane, their an engine down and that it is very likely the majority of the passanger are panicking, I think it is note worthy that the pilot/crew do not even have a quiver in their voice, in fact the only point the piolt seems emotional is when she reports a passenger injured after being sucked out the window.

[AlexS]

Zad said:

Not nice - Debris penetrated the window causing rapid decompression and one female passenger partially sucked outside the aircraft, currently critically ill in hospital. It looks like the front fan disk of the engine is intact, and it ingested the nacelle debris.

Same aircraft and 737-700 and engine type (if that's relevant)- CFM56 (GE)

CFM International is the actual company and consists of both GE and Safran (Snecma). The fan is actually a Safran part.

[Eric Mc]

Not surprised by their behaviour at all. It's what I would expect them to do.

Initially, they would not have an absolutely clear picture about what was going on. However, they would know two things pretty quickly -

a) they had just had a rapid decompression

b) they'd lost an engine

It would take a few minutes for them to understand why all this had happened. But in the meantime they would need to take some immediate actions without panic.

There would be standard procedures for dealing with both those contingencies. And they would need to react instantly and correctly to both in order to do their best to to get the aircraft safely on the ground in minimum time.

[red_slr]

So so lucky that the debris did not take out control surfaces or the stabiliser etc. I can only imagine what it was like inside the cabin for the first few minutes. Crew did very well I have no doubt they had warning messages coming out their ears the whole way down.

[KrazyIvan]

Eric Mc said:

Not surprised by their behaviour at all. It's what I would expect them to do.

Initially, they would not have an absolutely clear picture about what was going on. However, they would know two things pretty quickly -

a) they had just had a rapid decompression

b) they'd lost an engine

It would take a few minutes for them to understand why all this had happened. But in the meantime they would need to take some immediate actions without panic.

There would be standard procedures for dealing with both those contingencies. And they would need to react instantly and correctly to both in order to do their best to to get the aircraft safely on the ground in minimum time.

Training/procedure and real life are not the same, but if you don't think anything they did was note worthy, then fair enough, me personally I still think they deserve a virtual pat and recognition on the back for job well done in a difficult situation.

[silverfoxcc]

Slightly o/t

But how does the gutter press get hold of family photos so quickly?

Pretty sure if i were in tht position ( relative of injured person) i would tell them to fk off...but that is me. not' heres an album, take what you want'

[Blaster72]

They normally trawl Facebook for family photos. Gutter press lives on unfortunately.

[red_slr]

Apparently the pilot was ex US navy and was first female to fly F18s. Explains the calmness IMHO!

[budgie smuggler]

Well done to cowboy hat man and the other passengers who dragged her back in and gave first aid. Putting themselves into harms way trying to save her

[Eric Mc]

Panic on the flight deck is actually quite rare. It does happen, sometimes. But on the whole, the crews act very professionally.

[Krikkit]

silverfoxcc said:

Slightly o/t

But how does the gutter press get hold of family photos so quickly?

Pretty sure if i were in tht position ( relative of injured person) i would tell them to fk off...but that is me. not' heres an album, take what you want'

People trawl social media accounts, some freelancers will wait for an incident and rush to the scene, follow people home/grab them as they walk out of the door and offer them big bucks for pics etc. In the modern age when a lot of it goes on social media it's easy. I'm sure there's a certain amount of bribery for ground crews etc as well.

I like to think I'd say no if I was a passenger, but when someone comes along and offers you £10k with no questions for a grainy shot you took on your phone it'd be a hard choice.

[Otispunkmeyer]

Krikkit said:

silverfoxcc said:

Slightly o/t

But how does the gutter press get hold of family photos so quickly?

Pretty sure if i were in tht position ( relative of injured person) i would tell them to fk off...but that is me. not' heres an album, take what you want'

People trawl social media accounts, some freelancers will wait for an incident and rush to the scene, follow people home/grab them as they walk out of the door and offer them big bucks for pics etc. In the modern age when a lot of it goes on social media it's easy. I'm sure there's a certain amount of bribery for ground crews etc as well.

I like to think I'd say no if I was a passenger, but when someone comes along and offers you £10k with no questions for a grainy shot you took on your phone it'd be a hard choice.

Get on Netflix and watch Shot in the Dark.... give you an idea into just what goes on. Its quite ghoulish.

[vz-r_dave]

Given the discolouring (what looks to be red) of the windows beyond the broken window there are going to be a lot of people who need counselling after this, thats not discounting the entire event but seeing someone get crushed through a decompressed window has to be one of the most horrible things you can witness.

[Eric Mc]

I wonder if she was wearing her lap belt?

[Drew106]

Eric Mc said:

I wonder if she was wearing her lap belt?

I read that she was!

[Eric Mc]

Drew106 said:

I read that she was!

Terrible if so.

[Ayahuasca]

I spent much of Monday morning sitting in a B737 window seat looking at the engine next to me (slightly behind..) Great job by the crew. As Eric says it is all trained for, but training and doing it for real are not exactly the same thing.

Did she mention the cabin decompression to ATC? Maybe they don't have to do that.

Edited by Ayahuasca on Wednesday 18th April 15:07

[Eric Mc]

I'm sure they must have initiated an emergency descent so I expect they must have spoken to ATC about that. After all, ATC has to clear other traffic out of the way to allow the aircraft to descend through traffic safely.