A330 cuts A321's fin off during taxi at Istanbul

A330 cuts A321's fin off during taxi at Istanbul

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High flier

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Monday 14th May 2018
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OldGermanHeaps

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Monday 14th May 2018
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Thats a nice wee bit of interference parking there, was this taken at an asda carpark?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Should the Turkish airlines aircraft even be parked there? Seems a bit of an odd place to leave a plane, they weren't backing it out with a tug, any passengers on board?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2fGi6XtUa8&fe...

OldGermanHeaps

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179 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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It looks like the gate wasn't ready for them yet and they were holding just short, perhaps they were waiting on a marshal to guide them to the stand. It would be interesting to hear the recordings from the ground controllers to see just what clearances were given.

BrettMRC

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161 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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That is going to be interesting at peformance review time!

aeropilot

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228 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Probably no surprise to many that it involved an Asiana aircraft......

essayer

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195 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Surely being given taxi clearance doesn’t give you carte blanche to just drive into a stationary object scratchchin

An Tiomanai

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85 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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It looks like it cut through the tail fin with ease.

aeropilot

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Monday 14th May 2018
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An Tiomanai said:
It looks like it cut through the tail fin with ease.
Judging by the big jump and sideways displacement of the A321 as the A330 wing leading edge struck it and 'pushed through' it, before the fin collapsed, I'd say it didn't cut through with ease at all.
Then again, I doubt Airbus airframe Engineers had this situation as an 'analysis design case' for the fin....... wink


Willy Nilly

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168 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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I assume both planes are out of action now. Can the one that had the tail looped off be repaired?

anonymous-user

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Monday 14th May 2018
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Willy Nilly said:
I assume both planes are out of action now. Can the one that had the tail looped off be repaired?
If the banks that own it think its financially viable. most things can be repaired, just depends on the money.
See - https://imgur.com/a/LucEz

aeropilot

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Monday 14th May 2018
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Willy Nilly said:
I assume both planes are out of action now. Can the one that had the tail looped off be repaired?
Informed opinion from those in the trade, is that its possibly going to be quicker getting the fin damaged a/c back in service than the A330 that hit it, given the possible inspections required on the front spar's of the A330 from the impact etc.
That fin is only held on by 6 bolts, so as long as the fin/fuselage bolt connection joints haven't been overstressed by the impact and they can actually get hold of a fin it could be quicker get that back in the air than the A330 with leading edge/tip/spar damage.

williamp

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274 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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eezeh said:
Should the Turkish airlines aircraft even be parked there? Seems a bit of an odd place to leave a plane, they weren't backing it out with a tug, any passengers on board?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2fGi6XtUa8&fe...
He was there first. Thats how car parks work. Even if the other pilot thought he was driving a Q range Audi..

Krikkit

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182 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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eezeh said:
Willy Nilly said:
I assume both planes are out of action now. Can the one that had the tail looped off be repaired?
If the banks that own it think its financially viable. most things can be repaired, just depends on the money.
See - https://imgur.com/a/LucEz
That was great, thanks for posting.

48k

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149 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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And this is why you keep your seatbelts fastened until the seatbelt light is switched off kids.

Brother D

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177 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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Krikkit said:
eezeh said:
Willy Nilly said:
I assume both planes are out of action now. Can the one that had the tail looped off be repaired?
If the banks that own it think its financially viable. most things can be repaired, just depends on the money.
See - https://imgur.com/a/LucEz
That was great, thanks for posting.
While that is amazing, there was rumors that they did a repair so that Quatas could keep the title of never having a hull loss.

(However I think that conspiracy is highly unlikely with the bean counters running companies)...

Krikkit

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182 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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I'm sure it would've been easy enough for them to write it off, but that kind of repair I find fascinating from an engineering point of view - the fact that you can unpick sections of an airframe like that with enough cash and time is very entertaining watching.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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Krikkit said:
I'm sure it would've been easy enough for them to write it off, but that kind of repair I find fascinating from an engineering point of view - the fact that you can unpick sections of an airframe like that with enough cash and time is very entertaining watching.
Airframes are only riveted together, you can replace whole skin / structural sections.

Ayahuasca

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280 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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I was once in a B737 whose wingtip bashed into a neighbouring B737 whilst backing away from the gate. There was much unhappiness amongst the passengers and we made the pilot stop (he was just going to take off as if nothing had happened).

dvs_dave

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Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
I was once in a B737 whose wingtip bashed into a neighbouring B737 whilst backing away from the gate. There was much unhappiness amongst the passengers and we made the pilot stop (he was just going to take off as if nothing had happened).
scratchchin And where in the world with zero aviation safety standards did this highly unlikely scenario unfold?