Incredibly cool photos of trains

Incredibly cool photos of trains

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RichB

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285 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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2xChevrons said:
And don't forget that's an articulated locomotive...
I hadn't realised it was an articulated loco. I suppose because of the conventional shape, unlike the British articulated engines like the LNER Bayer-Garretts with water tanks at each end.

WelshChris

1,179 posts

255 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Our Welsh Highland Railway Garratts (Beyer Peacock) have the water tank at the front and coal at the rear. Huge bits of kit despite being only two-foot gauge.


RichB

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285 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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WelshChris said:
Our Welsh Highland Railway Garratts (Beyer Peacock) have the water tank at the front and coal at the rear...
The mainine one I was looking at had water and coal at one end like a conventional tender and water at the other.

2xChevrons

3,219 posts

81 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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WelshChris said:
Our Welsh Highland Railway Garratts (Beyer Peacock) have the water tank at the front and coal at the rear. Huge bits of kit despite being only two-foot gauge.

The advantages of the Garratt were its extreme flexibility (two articulated 'power units' on a single main frame, plus leading - and often trailing - axles as well), the spreading of their weight over a lot of axles and a lot of length, the carrying of water and fuel on the main frame (effectively making them a giant tank engine) and the firebox, grate and ashpan being slung below the main frame between the articulated bits, allowing it to be very large and wide. This made the Garratt ideal for sinuous, steeply graded, uneven and lightly laid railways in the colonies. The north-bound climb to Shap Summit is considered a challenge in the world of UK steam - four miles of 1-in-75 - while the south end of the Settle-Carlisle was the infamous 'Long Drag' at 16 miles of 1-in-100.

The big Garratts on East African Railways were working 330 miles between Mombassa and Nairobi, nearly all of it on an upward climb of 1-in-80, and with trains weighing between 1200 and 1500 tons. That's where a massive firebox and ashpan really comes into its own.

The NSWGR had a class of 4-8-4+4-8-4 Garratts (which must have virtually formed a train in and of themselves - nearly 110 feet long!) which saw out their operational lives double-heading 1500-ton coal hopper trains up a 1-in-40 bank near Newcastle, NSW.

As seen here (don't want to hotlink or copy/paste):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/garratt3/7392271210

That entire album is rich with content for this thread.

'Big Boy' didn't need to be especially light or flexible, it just needed to be very, very powerful. So the Mallet-type layout with the rear set of driving wheels, the boiler and the cab all rigidly mounted to the main frame was a better solution.

Edited by 2xChevrons on Monday 10th October 13:22

giveitfish

4,033 posts

215 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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That’s fascinating, thanks for posting

CooperD

2,870 posts

178 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Taken on the Embsay to Bolton Abbey Railway in Yorkshire.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Tyseley shed in Brum earlier this year, I'd just brought it down from Crewe...


sherman

13,337 posts

216 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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I was at the National railway museum in York the other week.


Yertis

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267 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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2xChevrons said:
The NSWGR had a class of 4-8-4+4-8-4 Garratts (which must have virtually formed a train in and of themselves - nearly 110 feet long!) which saw out their operational lives double-heading 1500-ton coal hopper trains up a 1-in-40 bank near Newcastle, NSW.

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Here's some video of that, that I came across a few months ago.



Penguinracer

1,593 posts

207 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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New Zealand - Kb 968 on n excursion to Arthur's Pass, 1969.

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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WelshChris said:
Our Welsh Highland Railway Garratts (Beyer Peacock) have the water tank at the front and coal at the rear. Huge bits of kit despite being only two-foot gauge.

Great photo.

Tried to get onboard during a weeks holiday in Dolgellau area, but didn't realise we would have to book several days in advance to get in!


Penguinracer

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207 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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New Zealand - Kb 969 ca.1940

Trevatanus

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151 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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CooperD said:



Taken on the Embsay to Bolton Abbey Railway in Yorkshire.
Was he lost?

Penguinracer

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207 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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New Zealand - Ka locomotives 963, 932 & 964 at Paekakariki in 1951.

Penguinracer

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207 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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New Zealand - Ka 942 at North Island Main Trunk Centenary, 2008

droopsnoot

11,969 posts

243 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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WelshChris said:
Our Welsh Highland Railway Garratts (Beyer Peacock) have the water tank at the front and coal at the rear. Huge bits of kit despite being only two-foot gauge.
I can never remember which one - Beyer, Garratt or Peacock - used to own the lovely house just outside Berwyn on the Llangollen Railway. Turns out to be Beyer who had Llantysilio Hall. Always a spot I look out for when I'm on the train.

CooperD

2,870 posts

178 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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Trevatanus said:
CooperD said:



Taken on the Embsay to Bolton Abbey Railway in Yorkshire.
Was he lost?
Ha ha. No, I believe they returned it back in the colour scheme it had when it worked for the Steel Company Of Wales at Port Talbot Steelworks many years ago.

velocemitch

3,813 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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CooperD said:
Trevatanus said:
CooperD said:



Taken on the Embsay to Bolton Abbey Railway in Yorkshire.
Was he lost?
Ha ha. No, I believe they returned it back in the colour scheme it had when it worked for the Steel Company Of Wales at Port Talbot Steelworks many years ago.
Nice ex L&Y Barton Wright 0-6-0 behind it. I hadn't realised they had it up there. I had the pleasure of a footplate ride on that when it was on the Worth Valley Railway.

CooperD

2,870 posts

178 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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CooperD

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178 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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I have also done a very short video and put it on Youtube of this train leaving Bolton Abbey Station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG_p1FsLDg