RE: Rolls-Royce confirms 1,000hp electric plane

RE: Rolls-Royce confirms 1,000hp electric plane

Monday 7th January 2019

Rolls-Royce confirms 1,000hp electric plane

British aviation firm is making a three-motor craft that'll be capable of a record-breaking 300mph and a 200-mile range



Unless you've a close ear to the aviation industry, it might be hard to fathom that in only a decade or two we could see electrified planes take to the skies for short haul flights. Using pure - or, more likely at first, hybrid-electric power - they're set to drastically reduce emissions, noise and ticket prices, once the cost of production comes down.

We'll all be familiar with the near identical shift to electrification that's already in full swing within the car industry, but for the air industry, ideas for commercial electric flight have barely left the test bed. So in order to demonstrate the validity of electric power in the skies and to show just how effective the tech already is, Rolls-Royce is developing a zero-emission aircraft to break the e-plane air speed record in 2020, as part of its 'Accelerating the Electrification of Flight' (aka Accel) programme.

The Gloucestershire aviation firm - which operates completely separately to the car firm that shares its name - will have to beat the 210mph record set by Siemens and its e-plane back in 2017. Rolls has confidently stated that it wants to "blow the doors off" that speed; engineers are said to be aiming for 343mph, which would match the speed of the Supermarine, a Rolls V12-powered seaplane that broke its class record in 1931.

Introducing ACCEL from Rolls-Royce on Vimeo.

 

Using a single-propeller 7.3-metre wide racing plane equipped with three e-motors supplied by YASA (a UK electric motor company), the one-seat craft will run at 750 volts and produce a combined 1,000hp. With power available from much lower rpm, the e-plane is said to be more stable than conventional craft, while also being much quieter.

As we know from electric cars, however, speed often comes to the detriment of range. The Rolls-Royce e-plane will need to use a large enough battery pack that's powerful enough to enable such pace, but one that's not so heavy it'll require immense amounts of energy to be flown - or cook itself under the strain. Rolls hasn't revealed exactly what type of battery tech it's developing ahead of the record run, but it does make mention of Formula E tech, suggesting lithium-ion could play a part. It says there will be 6,000 cells on board to provide a range of 200 miles between charges, with a targeted 90 per cent thermal efficiency.

"We're monitoring more than 20,000 data points per second, measuring battery voltage, temperature, and overall health of the powertrain, which is responsible for powering the propellers and generating thrust," said Matheu Parr, manager of the project. "We're gaining the knowhow to not only pioneer the field of electric-powered, zero-emissions aviation - but to lead it. At this point, our confidence is sky high."

Of course, this is a single-passenger plane, so we're still far away from the days of commercial e-planes. But a hybrid-jet? That doesn't seem so hard to imagine. And with backing from the UK government, added to the fact that Rolls-Royce is the world's second largest plane powerplant manufacturer, this project certainly appears to be on the up and up...

 

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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A 200 mile flight! That'll come in handy.

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Impressive given the fundamental drawback that more batteries = more weight, which is an Achilles heel in aviation.

IforB

9,840 posts

229 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Thornaby said:
A 200 mile flight! That'll come in handy.
For a General Aviation Aircraft, that's plenty.

eldar

21,763 posts

196 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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RumbleOfThunder said:
Impressive given the fundamental drawback that more batteries = more weight, which is an Achilles heel in aviation.
Useable KW per KG is a drawback for flying. I don't really see the point with current technology.

Jerseyhpc

31 posts

105 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Surely the point is that today’s technology is limited, put push it till it breaks and then you work out what tomorrow’s technology will be...
So many naysayers regarding electric power, but if this can push the boundaries of battery density, power management and efficiency then they should be applauded.

eldar

21,763 posts

196 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Jerseyhpc said:
Surely the point is that today’s technology is limited, put push it till it breaks and then you work out what tomorrow’s technology will be...
So many naysayers regarding electric power, but if this can push the boundaries of battery density, power management and efficiency then they should be applauded.
Indeed. Be more practical for automotive - more money for research, bigger volumes, bigger returns. Battery planes seem a bit halo type project, unless they are closing Gatwick....

Turbobanana

6,279 posts

201 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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PH article said:
'Accelerating the Electrification of Flight' (aka Accel)
Surely that would be "Accel F", which would allow for a pretty cool project theme tune smile

smig12345

30 posts

64 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I think it's great to see a British company doing something like this, it will show British engineering in a positive light. Like it or not the future is electric, it will render pistons travelling up and down cylinders at great velocity archaic, and Victorian technology.

The government should invest heavily in and set up British manufacturers in this field (and also electric cars, vans, trucks, busses, motorcycles, etc.) so when they are commonplace we will be World leaders in this high tech industry of the future with big companies. It will also go in some way to making up for all the industries we have lost.

Midgster

571 posts

234 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Turbobanana said:
Surely that would be "Accel F", which would allow for a pretty cool project theme tune smile

anonymous-user

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54 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Brilliant.

Project mangers who can't correctly count the number of propellers fitted to their plane, quoting thermal efficiency for a battery electric system, and suggesting that a "hybrid" system would be of some use in an aeroplane.

1/5 Pistonheads, see me after school for extra homework.......


;-)

Filton-flyer

352 posts

87 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I'm pretty sure IN51GHT (a PH forum member) is part of this project, he worked on the Bloodhound SSC project too.

RobDickinson

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254 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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RumbleOfThunder said:
Impressive given the fundamental drawback that more batteries = more weight, which is an Achilles heel in aviation.
Whilst ignoring the fundamental advantages....

No power loss at altitude, much higher reliability and much lower operating costs and maintenance.

This looks like a development project testbed more than anything.

tgx

147 posts

150 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Pretty neat. I built an electric RC plane from scratch about 20 years ago.
Range was limited for sure but tech keeps moving forward and the same plane today
would fare much better. If you have ever been to an airport and seen the clouds of exhaust gas
on a hot day you can appreciate an all electric air fleet and the positive impact on air quality.
Yes the emissions get moved onto a different grid but strides in clean energy I feel will oneday
offset that. Keep up the good work in the UK!


Nerdherder

1,773 posts

97 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I want an autonomously flying EV helicopter or at least the ability to book rides on one into shcensoredholes like London.

Talksteer

4,870 posts

233 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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RobDickinson said:
RumbleOfThunder said:
Impressive given the fundamental drawback that more batteries = more weight, which is an Achilles heel in aviation.
Whilst ignoring the fundamental advantages....

No power loss at altitude, much higher reliability and much lower operating costs and maintenance.

This looks like a development project testbed more than anything.
Correct, the principal advantage is emissions, cost and noise. These are why you don't see as much regional flying as you would expect.

Flying is cheap per mile, normally cheaper than a train or even the marginal cost of car ownership. The infrastructure required for flying is simply the air between the two places you want to fly between.

Electric flight and initially some electric hybrid flight will bring the minimum practical range of travelling by air down.

This is a demonstration testbed, if it can take a record and generate some publicity all the better. However given the number of teams working on similar craft I would not rule out someone going faster sooner.

loudlashadjuster

5,130 posts

184 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Filton-flyer said:
I'm pretty sure IN51GHT (a PH forum member) is part of this project, he worked on the Bloodhound SSC project too.
Yes, and he's already started another busy thread on it, so not sure why PH thought another thread on the same topic would be a good idea.

Oh wait, yes I do. Clicks rolleyes

Equus

16,916 posts

101 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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the article said:
...engineers are said to be aiming for 343mph, which would match the speed of the Supermarine, a Rolls V12-powered seaplane that broke its class record in 1931.
Eh? Which class record was that?

By 1931, it was the Supermarine S.6B, which did 407.5mph. The only other Supermarine record was the S.6 357.7mph, in 1929. Both were absolute records, too, not class records.

And since when was Rolls Royce a Gloucestershire firm?

Nice to see that PH is sticking to its usual 'infinite number of monkeys' approach to journalism. They just need a few more, and one day, one of them might get something right.



Edited by Equus on Monday 7th January 21:18

Equus

16,916 posts

101 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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RobDickinson said:
No power loss at altitude...
Well, until the batteries get cold. wink

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Equus said:
Well, until the batteries get cold. wink
Unlikely when they are being used.

I wonder if rolls royce can figure out thermal management on batteries..

anonymous-user

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54 months