Great Central Railway - News and "Stuff"

Great Central Railway - News and "Stuff"

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Flying Phil

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1,585 posts

145 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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We have been putting more steel sheet back into our 16T mineral wagon.......

...and more good news is that there is now £906,000 raised for the next two stages of "Bridging the Gap". There has been a redesign and the total required for this has dropped to ...only...£2.5M.

Rich1973

1,198 posts

177 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Is the GC aim of bridging the gap to have a preserved railway route from near Leicester to near Nottingham or to gain main line access via the spur to the MML?

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Rich1973 said:
Is the GC aim of bridging the gap to have a preserved railway route from near Leicester to near Nottingham or to gain main line access via the spur to the MML?
Answered here: https://youtu.be/fAzSleAgQ9g

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

96 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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ecsrobin said:
Rich1973 said:
Is the GC aim of bridging the gap to have a preserved railway route from near Leicester to near Nottingham or to gain main line access via the spur to the MML?
Answered here: https://youtu.be/fAzSleAgQ9g
Well the spur is currently a bit pointless, I believe mainline trains can no longer run on GCRN metals pending bridge work? I might be wrong, there's been no official announcement, just what I've read on various fb groups over the last few months.

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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toastyhamster said:
Well the spur is currently a bit pointless, I believe mainline trains can no longer run on GCRN metals pending bridge work? I might be wrong, there's been no official announcement, just what I've read on various fb groups over the last few months.
I believe that the bridge that was dropping bricks will form part of the joined up line. That is it's after where the missing bit and the link will join.

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

96 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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mcdjl said:
toastyhamster said:
Well the spur is currently a bit pointless, I believe mainline trains can no longer run on GCRN metals pending bridge work? I might be wrong, there's been no official announcement, just what I've read on various fb groups over the last few months.
I believe that the bridge that was dropping bricks will form part of the joined up line. That is it's after where the missing bit and the link will join.
Doesn't narrow it down much, the Gypsum trains can't run (again, hearsay on fb) so somewhere between A60 bridge and Rushcliffe Halt. Not good that bricks are falling down but I guess a lot of these structures haven't had significant maintenance for a long time. See GCR canal bridge and also another one they replaced recently.

Flying Phil

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1,585 posts

145 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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The bridge over the A60 is the subject of much discussion. It obviously needs attention and it will be having two tracks across in the future. This is so that long trains from the chord line and the main network can be held on the level and not on the slope of the chord, whilst the heritage line can still operate.
However that bridge is also Low and has been "lorry struck" quite often. So do they do a cheaper, quicker repair or a more expensive longer replacement with a better solution?

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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toastyhamster said:
Doesn't narrow it down much, the Gypsum trains can't run (again, hearsay on fb) so somewhere between A60 bridge and Rushcliffe Halt. Not good that bricks are falling down but I guess a lot of these structures haven't had significant maintenance for a long time. See GCR canal bridge and also another one they replaced recently.
Its this bridge here: https://goo.gl/maps/Aqay7MpEFVvDFsNS6 that caused the A60 to be closed a month or so back. The GCR(N) trains used to top there at the end of their run.
The state of the rails suggests the gypsum trains aren't running. Even at once a week they were noticeably cleaner.

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

96 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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mcdjl said:
toastyhamster said:
Doesn't narrow it down much, the Gypsum trains can't run (again, hearsay on fb) so somewhere between A60 bridge and Rushcliffe Halt. Not good that bricks are falling down but I guess a lot of these structures haven't had significant maintenance for a long time. See GCR canal bridge and also another one they replaced recently.
Its this bridge here: https://goo.gl/maps/Aqay7MpEFVvDFsNS6 that caused the A60 to be closed a month or so back. The GCR(N) trains used to top there at the end of their run.
The state of the rails suggests the gypsum trains aren't running. Even at once a week they were noticeably cleaner.
Thought it might be, I was half expecting a fundraiser to pay for repairs, they must be losing a chunk of wedge from Gypsum, especially given the supply issues with aggregate at the moment. I do wonder how often these things are properly checked (across the whole heritage network), I could say the same thing about the nightmare that continues on Clifton Bridge and that's a baby in age compared.

Vasco

16,477 posts

105 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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mcdjl said:
Its this bridge here: https://goo.gl/maps/Aqay7MpEFVvDFsNS6 that caused the A60 to be closed a month or so back. The GCR(N) trains used to top there at the end of their run.
The state of the rails suggests the gypsum trains aren't running. Even at once a week they were noticeably cleaner.
Is that definitely the right location ? - that bridge is right by the Brush building/Loughborough mainline station.

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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Vasco said:
Is that definitely the right location ? - that bridge is right by the Brush building/Loughborough mainline station.
https://www.hathernparishcouncil.org.uk/news/2021/02/a60-loughborough-emergency-road-closure
It's either that one or the one over the main line. If it was the road bridge (it would have been replaced by now...oh wait Clifton bridge....) the gypsum trains would be running taking plaster board to wherever it needs to go.

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

96 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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mcdjl said:
Vasco said:
Is that definitely the right location ? - that bridge is right by the Brush building/Loughborough mainline station.
https://www.hathernparishcouncil.org.uk/news/2021/02/a60-loughborough-emergency-road-closure
It's either that one or the one over the main line. If it was the road bridge (it would have been replaced by now...oh wait Clifton bridge....) the gypsum trains would be running taking plaster board to wherever it needs to go.
Alton Towers today, so had chance to read the latest GCR mag while the kids queued for Smiler. GCR(N) sound like they need a serious plan. The A60 bridge needs serious repairs (identified many years ago and not much came of it) and the ones either side of East Leake as well potentially need work. I've seen absolutely no plans from GCR(N) on this in their mag, I hope they're sorting something out or it'll be a pleasant day with the NSMEE chaps and a few buses and that'll be it.

I did see the above photo in the mag, good work on the wagons all volunteers. I did a few weekends with "Cutting 'Edge" on GCR(N) but personal circumstances for now have put paid to free time at weekends.

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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toastyhamster said:
Alton Towers today, so had chance to read the latest GCR mag while the kids queued for Smiler. GCR(N) sound like they need a serious plan. The A60 bridge needs serious repairs (identified many years ago and not much came of it) and the ones either side of East Leake as well potentially need work. I've seen absolutely no plans from GCR(N) on this in their mag, I hope they're sorting something out or it'll be a pleasant day with the NSMEE chaps and a few buses and that'll be it.

I did see the above photo in the mag, good work on the wagons all volunteers. I did a few weekends with "Cutting 'Edge" on GCR(N) but personal circumstances for now have put paid to free time at weekends.
Were you working on the signal box? There seem to be a group dedicated to saving it beyond and apparent use beyond appearance.

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

96 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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mcdjl said:
toastyhamster said:
Alton Towers today, so had chance to read the latest GCR mag while the kids queued for Smiler. GCR(N) sound like they need a serious plan. The A60 bridge needs serious repairs (identified many years ago and not much came of it) and the ones either side of East Leake as well potentially need work. I've seen absolutely no plans from GCR(N) on this in their mag, I hope they're sorting something out or it'll be a pleasant day with the NSMEE chaps and a few buses and that'll be it.

I did see the above photo in the mag, good work on the wagons all volunteers. I did a few weekends with "Cutting 'Edge" on GCR(N) but personal circumstances for now have put paid to free time at weekends.
Were you working on the signal box? There seem to be a group dedicated to saving it beyond and apparent use beyond appearance.
Nah that I think was the S&T guys, I was just cutting and burning. I honestly can't see any work done on that surviving the locals, but good luck to them.

Flying Phil

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1,585 posts

145 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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We have re-skinned the second door......it is a bit heavier than a car door!

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

96 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Good work. What thickness steel do you use for the big side and floor pieces?

Flying Phil

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1,585 posts

145 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Hi Toasty
I think it is 3mm (or 4mm)..,.I will double check on my next visit. I suspect it was 1/8" originally.

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

96 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Flying Phil said:
Hi Toasty
I think it is 3mm (or 4mm)..,.I will double check on my next visit. I suspect it was 1/8" originally.
1/8th! Hell, no wonder it's heavy.

Flying Phil

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1,585 posts

145 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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It is 3mm steel sheet we are using and we have just re-skinned the end door.....and started to paint the other end with primer.


Flying Phil

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1,585 posts

145 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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It has been announced that the A60 bridge is to be replaced by a new concrete decks (as a bridge North of Quorn was replaced last year).
This might have been more expensive in the short term but may give a bit more clearance underneath and will need much less maintenance in the future.
I was on the South coast earlier so here is a gratuitous picture from Swanage....