Royal Navy "lost" a Merlin for a week...
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Crossflow Kid said:
I was thinking more of the one that went through the aft pylon, missing the aft vertical drive shaft by an inch.
It went through the pylon as well. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/79311...Crossflow Kid said:
At least one Chinook took an RPG in Helmand.
And carried on.
Another lost an undercarriage leg to a land mine.
Ditto.
There was the chuck norris of helicopters:And carried on.
Another lost an undercarriage leg to a land mine.
Ditto.
- merlinsarecrap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bravo_November
ecsrobin said:
Crossflow Kid said:
I was thinking more of the one that went through the aft pylon, missing the aft vertical drive shaft by an inch.
It went through the pylon as well. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/79311...
davebem said:
Crossflow Kid said:
At least one Chinook took an RPG in Helmand.
And carried on.
Another lost an undercarriage leg to a land mine.
Ditto.
There was the chuck norris of helicopters:And carried on.
Another lost an undercarriage leg to a land mine.
Ditto.
- merlinsarecrap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bravo_November
ecsrobin said:
Crossflow Kid said:
I was thinking more of the one that went through the aft pylon, missing the aft vertical drive shaft by an inch.
It went through the pylon as well. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/79311...yellowjack said:
CAPP0 said:
Where's the bit where they "lost" it?
OK. I'll admit it was kinda a "click-bait" title. So they didn't actually misplace the helicopter, but technically they lost the use of it for a week and some poor saps had to live in a tent in a muddy field for a week, guarding it and fixing it. I posted it up because I hadn't seen mention of it on PH, nor in the national press, yet it appeared (to me) to be an "of interest" story to PHers who are into aviation matters.Maybe I should PM you in future to run thread titles by you for approval?
Europa1 said:
ecsrobin said:
Crossflow Kid said:
I was thinking more of the one that went through the aft pylon, missing the aft vertical drive shaft by an inch.
It went through the pylon as well. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/79311...Crossflow Kid said:
Europa1 said:
ecsrobin said:
Crossflow Kid said:
I was thinking more of the one that went through the aft pylon, missing the aft vertical drive shaft by an inch.
It went through the pylon as well. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/79311...
Tony1963 said:
100SRV said:
Chinook needs both rotors for lift, pitch and yaw control, they aren't there for redundancy.
Just so you know, I've been working on helicopters for the last ten years, and fixed wing for 28 years before that. So my smiley was in acknowledgement of a witty comment.
Where is that twin contrarotating whoosh parrot when you need one....or two....ecsrobin said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Europa1 said:
ecsrobin said:
Crossflow Kid said:
I was thinking more of the one that went through the aft pylon, missing the aft vertical drive shaft by an inch.
It went through the pylon as well. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/79311...Not entirely sure what you’re getting at.
For people asking about armour. It’s amazing how heavy it is and how sensitive helicopters are to weight/heat/altitude. All problems in Afghan.
I worked C130J hercs and the armour we fitted in to the flight deck weighed a tonne. Even small panels about 0.5mx0.75m by 25mm thick were nearly a two man lift and move in to place. And there was probably 12-15 fitted.
I worked C130J hercs and the armour we fitted in to the flight deck weighed a tonne. Even small panels about 0.5mx0.75m by 25mm thick were nearly a two man lift and move in to place. And there was probably 12-15 fitted.
DoubleD said:
yellowjack said:
CAPP0 said:
Where's the bit where they "lost" it?
OK. I'll admit it was kinda a "click-bait" title. So they didn't actually misplace the helicopter, but technically they lost the use of it for a week and some poor saps had to live in a tent in a muddy field for a week, guarding it and fixing it. I posted it up because I hadn't seen mention of it on PH, nor in the national press, yet it appeared (to me) to be an "of interest" story to PHers who are into aviation matters.Maybe I should PM you in future to run thread titles by you for approval?
Crossflow Kid said:
No. No I don’t. I stated the round went through the aft pylon, you then replied “It went through the pylon as well”.
Not entirely sure what you’re getting at.
So going back to my original post I said the RPG round incident the blade was now the squadron bar. You implied it was a different incident. I have linked to an incident where the round went through the blade and the AFT pylon. Not entirely sure what you’re getting at.
I’m assuming you were trying to be pedantic by the fact I didn’t use the term AFT as Europa1 has also questioned it.
MB140 said:
For people asking about armour. It’s amazing how heavy it is and how sensitive helicopters are to weight/heat/altitude. All problems in Afghan.
I worked C130J hercs and the armour we fitted in to the flight deck weighed a tonne. Even small panels about 0.5mx0.75m by 25mm thick were nearly a two man lift and move in to place. And there was probably 12-15 fitted.
I worked on 'J's but mostly 'K's' and when we fitted the full armour kit (the new stuff with Velcro not the old bolt in one) we were told that on the stretched aircraft the front plug of the cargo bay was unusable due to all the weight at the front end affecting the balance of the aircraft.I worked C130J hercs and the armour we fitted in to the flight deck weighed a tonne. Even small panels about 0.5mx0.75m by 25mm thick were nearly a two man lift and move in to place. And there was probably 12-15 fitted.
This stuff was only designed to take a .762 type of round. I asked one of the armour reps what would it take to stop a .50cal round he just said double it all! So 2" thick, and 2 tons in weight and the aircraft pretty much useless!
eccles said:
MB140 said:
For people asking about armour. It’s amazing how heavy it is and how sensitive helicopters are to weight/heat/altitude. All problems in Afghan.
I worked C130J hercs and the armour we fitted in to the flight deck weighed a tonne. Even small panels about 0.5mx0.75m by 25mm thick were nearly a two man lift and move in to place. And there was probably 12-15 fitted.
I worked on 'J's but mostly 'K's' and when we fitted the full armour kit (the new stuff with Velcro not the old bolt in one) we were told that on the stretched aircraft the front plug of the cargo bay was unusable due to all the weight at the front end affecting the balance of the aircraft.I worked C130J hercs and the armour we fitted in to the flight deck weighed a tonne. Even small panels about 0.5mx0.75m by 25mm thick were nearly a two man lift and move in to place. And there was probably 12-15 fitted.
This stuff was only designed to take a .762 type of round. I asked one of the armour reps what would it take to stop a .50cal round he just said double it all! So 2" thick, and 2 tons in weight and the aircraft pretty much useless!
Yeah I imagine all that extra weight would severely limit the aircraft envelope du to so much weight out front.
I remember the first time I did a BLOS fit (about 2kg in the dogs kennel) and had to do a weight and balance calaculation because the sm mandated it. Really 1 kg. I bet bigger s
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